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Bills
LAW ENFORCEMENT (POWERS AND RESPONSIBILITIES) AMENDMENT (DIGITAL
EVIDENCE ACCESS ORDERS) BILL 2023
Second Reading Debate
Debate resumed from 24 May 2023.
Mr ALISTER HENSKENS (Wahroonga) (10:20): On behalf of the Opposition, I participate in debate
on the Law Enforcement (Powers and Responsibilities) Amendment (Digital Evidence Access Orders) Bill 2023.
At the outset, I indicate that the Opposition supports the bill. The bill seeks to expand the reach of the amendment
to the Law Enforcement (Powers and Responsibilities) Act by the Law Enforcement (Powers and Responsibilities)
Amendment (Digital Evidence Access Orders) Bill 2022, introduced in September last year by the former Minister
for Police, the member for Bathurst. That bill was part of a suite of measures that also included the Crimes
Amendment (Money Laundering) Bill 2022 and the Dedicated Encrypted Criminal Communication Device
Prohibition Orders Bill 2022.
The purpose of the Law Enforcement (Powers and Responsibilities) Amendment (Digital Evidence Access
Orders) Bill 2022 was to provide a tool for the NSW Police Force and the New South Wales Crimes Commission
to increase their ability to access digital evidence in connection with search warrants and crime scene warrants in
New South Wales. It was said to be a reality of modern criminal investigations that law enforcement encounter
digital devices of interest when they are conducting searches as part of investigating suspected criminal activity.
Unlike hard-copy documents, like a journal or handwritten notes, when such a device is detected it is not
uncommon for those devices to be protected by a password, an access key, face ID, or some other protection that
inhibits the ability to access material seized under a search warrant. The bill before the House seeks to expand the
persons who can obtain such orders ancillary to search warrants to the Independent Commission Against
Corruption.
The Independent Commission Against Corruption was established by an Act of Parliament in 1988 by the
Greiner Government. The legislation was introduced because of the serious corruption that had occurred in
New South Wales under the Wran Labor Government. Former Ministers like Rex Jackson were put in jail for
receiving bribes from criminals to get early release from prison. In fact, in the 1970s he was found with $100,000
in cash in the boot of his car, such was the extent of the bribes that he received.
Dr Hugh McDermott: It sounds like the Whip that was here from Wagga.
Mr ALISTER HENSKENS: I acknowledge the interjection from the member for Prospect. It was not
unlike the $100,000 received in cash at ALP headquarters recently as an illegal political donation. There is
historical form, but that and other corruption by that 1970s Labor Government were the antecedents to the
introduction of the ICAC Act in 1988. Division 4 of the Independent Commission Against Corruption Act 1988
deals with search warrants, conferring authority upon the ICAC to issue search warrants. The bill supplements the
search warrant powers already given to the ICAC to ensure that it can access passwords and other information
necessary to read digital material seized under search warrants.
Corruption is an absolute pox on the body politic, which is the reason we have the ICAC. Giving the
commission modern powers to perform the crucial functions of the ICAC is incredibly important. I note that there
have been some concerning incidents with regard to the execution of search warrants by the ICAC when the media
has been camped outside the premises where search warrants have been executed. I note that the member for
Swansea agrees with me; she knows exactly what I am talking about. There was an instance when ALP
headquarters in Sussex Street had a search warrant issued against it that was tipped off to the media. There was
an instance in 2014 when search warrants were issued on the Central Coast against members of Parliament and
the media was tipped off and reported the execution of those search warrants. When a search warrant was issued
for the Willoughby home of Margaret Cunneen, the subject of one of the infamous attempts by the ICAC to
conduct an investigation, media that had been tipped off were present.
That is of great concern given that the ICAC has obligations of secrecy. Instances of the corruption
authority not acting in accordance with the law and in accordance with the legislation that governs it are very
concerning. Unfortunately, despite referrals to the Inspector of the ICAC with regard to those three matters, I am
not sure any satisfactory explanation has ever been given. I see the member for Prospect nodding. There has never
been a satisfactory dealing with those three matters. I raise them only to make the point that if this Parliament
gives greater powers to the ICAC to perform its functions, then those powers obviously come with a reciprocal
obligation for the ICAC to exercise its powers in accordance with the Act of Parliament that it operates under.
Tip-offs to the media by the ICAC—if that is what happened in the past—are of great concern. As I said, we have
never had a satisfactory explanation for how those three instances occurred. If internal tip-offs occurred—and
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I suppose it is conceivable, although unlikely, that they came from other sources; but it is possible—those matters
should be investigated and transparently dealt with. I am not sure if that has ever actually occurred.
I make the point that greater powers require more stringent reciprocal responsibilities for the use of those
powers, but obviously exposing corruption is important. Corruption is by definition a distortion of public assets,
public funds and taxpayer dollars. There is no room for misuse of public resources through corruption. Consistent
with the Coalition having created the ICAC, we support it having the necessary tools to fulfil its important
functions. I raise these matters in Parliament and put them on Hansard as a salutary reminder of some concerning
aspects of previous executions of search warrants by the ICAC and the necessity for new powers to be properly
and responsibly used.
As a former technology Minister, I know that technology is ubiquitous. It is important for the ICAC to be
able to access digital data. That is why we support this important augmentation to the powers of the ICAC, just as
we extended those powers to the NSW Police Force and the Crime Commission in the legislation that we
introduced last year. I accept as the Attorney General says that the ICAC has requested it be given similar powers,
and I have no reason to think that has not occurred. It is appropriate, and that is why we support the legislation.
Dr HUGH McDERMOTT (Prospect) (10:31): I am pleased to support the Law Enforcement (Powers
and Responsibilities) Amendment (Digital Evidence Access Orders) Bill 2023. This is the first time I have spoken
on a piece of legislation that comes under the Attorney General's portfolio in the Department of Communities and
Justice. I acknowledge the police Minister and the Parliamentary Secretary for Police and Counter-terrorism, who
both are in the Chamber. I note that the Parliamentary Secretary will also speak on the bill.
The bill will amend the Law Enforcement (Powers and Responsibilities) Act 2002, more commonly known
as LEPRA, to enable digital evidence access orders to be sought by officers of the Independent Commission
Against Corruption who are executing search warrants under section 40 of the Independent Commission Against
Corruption Act 1988. The amendment will enable ICAC officers to compel a person under a search warrant to
open their phone or computer device—a power necessary to conduct effective and thorough investigations given
the prevalence of technology in our society. As members know, the principal objectives of ICAC are to promote
the integrity and accountability of public administration. ICAC is an independent and accountable body created
by this Parliament to investigate, expose and prevent corruption involving or affecting public authorities and
public officials. It was also created to educate public authorities, officials and members of the public about
corruption and its detrimental effects on public administration and the community, and it can use its special powers
to inquire into allegations of corruption.
The provisions that relate to the digital evidence access order scheme are currently contained in part 5,
division 4A of the Law Enforcement (Powers and Responsibilities) Act. The bill will extend the scheme in
connection with a search warrant under the ICAC Act. Specifically, the bill will amend the Law Enforcement
(Powers and Responsibilities) Act 2002 No. 103 in the following ways. The bill proposes to insert after
section 46 (1) (d) that an eligible applicant for a digital evidence access order is an officer of the commission
under section 40 (1) of the Independent Commission Against Corruption Act. It also proposes to insert at the end
of section 76AB (2) (c) that this will apply for applications for digital evidence access orders "in relation to a
matter being investigated under the Independent Commission Against Corruption Act 1988—at the same time as
the application for the search warrant or after the search warrant has been issued, whether before or after the
warrant is executed".
Finally, the bill proposes to insert after section 76AF (1) (d) (i) new subparagraph (ia) regarding
information in applications for digital evidence access orders "for a digital evidence access order in connection
with a search warrant under the Independent Commission Against Corruption Act 1988—material connected with
a matter being investigated under that Act is held in or accessible from the computer to which the application
relates". Though these amendments may be minor, they will ensure the ICAC's powers to investigate corruption
and maladministration remain up to date and fit for purpose. The digital evidence access scheme was originally
introduced in October 2022 by the former Coalition Government as part of a package of bills targeted to address
organised crime. Those bills passed the Parliament with the support of the Labor Party. At that time, the focus of
reform was on providing powers to combat serious and organised crime. The powers were given to the
NSW Police Force and the New South Wales Crime Commission, which are critical agencies leading these
crime-related efforts.
The Attorney General has introduced the bill at the earliest opportunity in recognition of the Independent
Commission Against Corruption's important role in holding all those in public life to account, upholding integrity
and maintaining trust in our public institutions. The Minns Labor Government has responded promptly to the
concerns raised by the ICAC commissioner that these powers are needed to ensure that the commission can fully
execute its investigative functions. ICAC is one of our most important integrity agencies. As such, it must have
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access to a range of investigative tools similar to those provided to a royal commission. That includes the powers
to hold compulsory examinations and public inquiries.
As members are aware, ICAC can summon any person to give evidence, answer questions and produce
documents for an investigation. Currently, ICAC is provided with the power to use search warrants as a tool for
investigations. These warrants are used to search specified premises and items contained within those premises.
However, the digital evidence access order scheme only applies to search warrants. In that regard it does not
duplicate ICAC's compulsory examination and public inquiry powers. Instead, it acts as a different tool for ICAC
to use during the evidence collection and analysis phase of an investigation.
It is worth noting that the New South Wales Crime Commission has similar compulsory examination
powers under part 2, division 4 of the Crime Commission Act 2012, and that it also has access to digital evidence
access orders in connection with the warrants that it may seek under that Act. Digital evidence access orders can
require the provision of a password or other access control of a digital device—such as a phone or a laptop—even
if doing so may incriminate a person. Abrogation of the privilege against self-incrimination is a serious imposition
on civil liberties and the scheme is subject to serious procedural requirements and safeguards to ensure that such
powers are appropriately granted. Importantly, the provisions will apply in exactly the same way to ICAC officers
as they currently apply to the NSW Police Force and officers of the Crime Commission.
The bill only applies to some search warrants and agencies because digital evidence access orders, while
operationally necessary, are also a significant imposition on civil liberties, particularly because they abrogate the
privilege against self-incrimination. The Government is taking a cautious approach that fully considers where the
operational need for such powers is greatest. The current scope of the scheme reflects its focus on search warrants
that are most commonly used in connection with serious and organised crime. A number of considerations have
been undertaken in the drafting of the bill.
First, under section 76AB, an application for a digital evidence access order must be sought in connection
with a search warrant. That means a digital evidence access order must be sought at the same time as the search
warrant or after a search warrant has been granted. The intention of this scheme is to overcome modern
technological barriers which frustrate the proper execution of search warrants. They are not standalone
investigative powers. The second consideration relates to the application process for digital evidence access
orders. The application process is aligned to search warrants. That includes requiring applications to be made
either in person, by email, or electronic means. The application must be supported by information verified by
oath, affirmation or affidavit. Phone applications will only be allowed if no other method is available and the
application is urgent. As with existing search warrants, all applications will be considered ex parte, meaning that
the subject of the warrant is not in attendance and not required to be heard before a court.
The third consideration is related to additional protections for minors. Under Section 76AF (2), when
digital evidence access orders are sought for a person under the age of 18, the application must be accompanied
by a document signed by a NSW Police Force officer of the rank of inspector or above authorising the application.
That provides additional measures when dealing with young people under those orders. The fourth consideration
is that applications for digital evidence access orders are determined by independent "eligible issuing officers".
[Extension of time]
Those officers are defined under Section 46 and align with those persons who consider search warrant
applications. That ensures that one officer can consider both the search warrant and digital evidence access order
application, making the process more efficient. Those officers are usually a magistrate or registrar of the Local
Court. The fifth consideration relates to restrictions applied on repeated applications if an order is refused to be
made. Under Section 76AH, a further application can be made only if there is additional information or if the
application was made to a non-judicial officer and the further application is made to a magistrate. Only one further
application may be made in any particular case.
The sixth consideration recognises that although digital evidence access orders abrogate the privilege
against self-incrimination, they do not abrogate legal professional privilege. Data on the device will still be
protected by legal professional privilege in the same way that the privilege applies to information on unlocked
computers or devices searched in the execution of a search warrant. Such material will be inadmissible in criminal
proceedings unless the privilege has been waived or lost. Finally, the digital evidence access order scheme is
subject to a statutory review. Under Section 237A the Minister is required to commence that review as soon as
practicable after the commencement date, with a report to be tabled within 12 months to the end of that period.
Those considerations have all been made to ensure that these powers have been granted fairly and cannot be
misused by the ICAC.
For the information of the House, other States in Australia have already granted similar digital evidence
access orders to comparable integrity agencies. An officer of the Queensland Crime and Corruption Commission
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may be an authorised person on a search warrant, which allows them to access information concerning a digital
device found on the relevant premises. Under Section 71 (1) of the Independent Commissioner Against Corruption
Act 2017, when an officer of the Northern Territory Independent Commission Against Corruption is lawfully on
premises, they may require a person to give the officer any translation, code or password to gain access to any
designated items located in the course of exercising their investigative powers.
The provisions set under the bill will ensure that the power of a digital evidence access order will
supplement the existing search warrant powers of the ICAC. That reflects the policy intention of the scheme,
which is to overcome modern technological barriers that frustrate the proper execution of search warrants.
Allowing ICAC officers access to phones or computers will give them the opportunity to conduct modern
investigations thoroughly. This reform will assist ICAC to continue its important role to fight corruption and hold
all of us in public life accountable for our actions. I commend the bill to the House.
Ms TAMARA SMITH (Ballina) (10:44): On behalf of The Greens, I contribute to debate on the Law
Enforcement (Powers and Responsibilities) Amendment (Digital Access Evidence Orders) Bill 2023.
The Greens support the Government's bill, which will bring the Independent Commission Against Corruption
[ICAC] in line with the common law relating to search warrants regarding digital evidence. I also take the
opportunity to raise issues that have been brought to my attention in my electorate around where we find
ourselves with the anti-protest laws that have been introduced. Peaceful protesters are being issued with search
warrants relating to their digital devices. That has happened in Western Australia. There has been a really
politically targeted approach to protesters protesting the Woodside fossil fuel projects.
I remind the House that The Greens opposed the extension of such powers. The Greens opposed the
anti-protest laws. From a civil rights point of view, we will continue to raise the real concerns we hold about
information being inadvertently found relating to matters other than that being investigated. I note the
police Minister is present. I am not addressing the police. I am addressing the laws in this place that bring
peaceful protesters—people exercising their civil liberties—into the criminal justice system when they are
charged with serious indictable offences when they should not be.
Unfortunately, I am reminded of the bad old days of teaching in jails and noting young people entering
the criminal justice system for incredibly minor offences like possession of marijuana. They then began a life of
being in and out of the criminal justice system. It is so important that members are reminded of the actual face
of those laws. It has nothing to do with the ICAC. The bill will give express powers to the NSW Police Force to
issue directions requiring a person to assist an officer to access a device, if the execution of a search warrant
meets the standard that is required. The bill seeks to include ICAC as an authority that can make a digital
evidence access order.
I was interested to hear the member for Wahroonga raise issues earlier with regard to politicians. He
expressed grave concern for politicians whose apparent civil liberties might be breached by some of the processes
of ICAC. The Greens are not really focused on politicians as a sidebar to this legislation; we are focused on
ordinary citizens exercising their civil liberties. The Greens spokesperson Sue Higginson, MLC, is talking to the
Government about a potential Greens amendment to remove an officer of the Attorney-General as an authorising
officer for an application by an ICAC officer for a digital evidence access order to avoid partisan political
oversight from the process.
Again, The Greens opposed those powers when they were introduced under the former Government—for
good reason. From a civil rights point of view, accessing computers and electronic devices should be a special
case requiring a greater level of scrutiny and privacy safeguards than other search warrants. That is because
information from a variety of sources is stored on one device, which increases the potential to inadvertently find
information relating to matters other than that being investigated, for self-incrimination, and for information that
is privileged to be discovered.
Accessing electronic devices such as computers has significant privacy concerns, including the potential
for manipulation and fraud, which may not be justified in many cases and can affect innocent third parties. For
example, section 76AJ (2) of the bill predicates the issuing of a digital evidence access order [DEAO] on the
executing officer being reasonably satisfied that evidentiary material is on the computer. However, the range of
specified persons to whom the DEAO relates is wide and includes not just the computer's owner but the owner's
employee, contractor, a person who has used the computer or a system administrator of the computer.
In the context of that, I refer to a young woman in Western Australia, Joana Partyka, who on 10 February
this year pleaded guilty to criminal damage for her role in protesting against Woodside's destruction of
Murujuga rock art on the Burrup Peninsula. The Western Australian Government was very focused on the
Disrupt Burrup Hub campaign led by environmentalists. Joana was fined $7,500 and thought that was the end of
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it. She later opened her front door to find six police officers with a warrant waiting to search her one-bedroom
apartment. She said:
It was pretty cramped and intimidating. They spent about an hour in my home, searching through my personal belongings. All of the
things that you don't want other people to see.
She had already been fined a considerable amount, but the police seized her phone, laptop and a notebook that
she used for work. They came back barely a week later ordering that she give them the password to her devices.
She declined, citing contractual obligations in her work. Her barrister, Zarah Burgess, said that, despite this
"reasonable excuse", she was given no assurances about how the data would be handled or stored. I know that
I am straying, and I thank the House for its indulgence, but this is more broadly about the device orders. It is a
good example of an ordinary person, and I think we need to always reflect on the impact of these laws.
The risk of self-incrimination will not be a lawful reason to fail to comply with a digital evidence access
order. Once police have access to these devices, much can be learned about the specified person and anyone that
they are associated with. This information could be used to incriminate the specified person for other crimes other
than that which relates to the original warrant. I know the examples that the Attorney General gave were of
paedophiles and serious crimes. I am not in any way suggesting that we do not want that. But The Greens are
talking about some of the draconian laws introduced under the former Coalition Government that are targeting
people who are by no means serious criminals.
Section 76AM could potentially require police to review huge volumes of data. The ability to only view
information that is strictly necessary for the particular investigation is unlikely. The Greens support bringing in
line the Independent Commission Against Corruption as an authority that can make digital evidence access orders
as a result of search warrants. But I put on the record again our concerns with the laws more broadly. Our major
concerns are with the anti-protest laws. I would hate to see a situation in New South Wales where exercising civil
liberties and peaceful protest become indictable offences. We have already seen that. People are falling foul of
the law, and there is the potential for the misuse of this law across the board. The Greens support the bill, but
I raise those concerns.
Mr EDMOND ATALLA (Mount Druitt) (10:53): I speak in support of the Law Enforcement (Powers
and Responsibilities) Amendment (Digital Evidence Access Orders) Bill 2023. The bill amends the
Law Enforcement (Powers and Responsibilities) Act 2002 [LEPRA] to enable digital evidence access orders to
be sought by officers of the Independent Commission Against Corruption in connection with warrants issued
under the Independent Commission Against Corruption Act 1988. That will enable officers of the ICAC to compel
a person under a search warrant to open their phone or computer—a power those on this side believe is necessary
to conduct modern investigations.
The amendments are the result of a request to the Government from the ICAC and are intended to ensure
that the ICAC's powers remain fit for purpose for the contemporary context. A strong and effective ICAC with
the necessary powers to conduct thorough investigations is vital to the maintenance of public trust in our
institutions. I hope that this remains an inarguable proposition in 2023. The ICAC Act provides for the
establishment of the ICAC. The principal objects of the ICAC Act are set out in section 2A of the Act, which are:
(a) to promote the integrity and accountability of public administration by constituting an Independent Commission Against
Corruption as an independent and accountable body—
(i) to investigate, expose and prevent corruption involving or affecting public authorities and public officials, and
(ii) to educate public authorities, public officials and members of the public about corruption and its detrimental effects
on public administration and on the community, and
(b) to confer on the Commission special powers to inquire into allegations of corruption.
Key to the ICAC being able to conduct its investigations is the ability to compel a person under a search warrant
to open their phone or computer. The bill extending access to the ICAC follows the 2022 changes brought in by
the former Government that introduced the digital evidence access orders scheme, which passed through
Parliament with the support of the Labor Opposition at the time. The scheme enabled police officers and officers
of the New South Wales Crime Commission to seek orders alongside a search warrant, which empowered them
to issue a direction to a person requiring that person to provide assistance to unlock a digital device connected to
the search warrant.
Part 5, division 4A of LEPRA was inserted in October 2022. That division contains the scheme for digital
evidence access orders, which are orders sought in connection with a search warrant that provide additional
powers. Currently, a digital evidence access order may only be sought by police or New South Wales Crime
Commission officers in relation to search warrants. A digital evidence access order cannot be issued as a
standalone order; it must be linked to a search warrant. If issued, the officer can direct a person to provide
information or assistance reasonably necessary to access a digital device, or to copy or convert data. For example,
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a person could be required to provide a password or PIN to access a locked device. Failing to comply with such a
direction without a reasonable excuse is a criminal offence. The offence carries a maximum penalty of five years'
imprisonment, 100 penalty units—equating to $11,000—or both.
Self-incrimination is not a reasonable excuse. Abrogation of the privilege against self-incrimination is a
serious imposition on civil liberties, and the scheme is subject to a series of procedural requirements and
safeguards that ensure such powers are appropriately granted. Importantly, those provisions will apply in exactly
the same way to ICAC officers as they currently apply to the police and to officers of the New South Wales Crime
Commission. For ICAC officers, digital evidence access orders will only be able to be issued by an authorised
officer, namely a magistrate or a registrar of the Local Court. Those officers are also already authorised to issue
search warrants under the ICAC Act. The Minns Labor Government believes in a strong ICAC with the necessary
powers to conduct its investigations into potential corrupt conduct, and understands that making sure its powers
are fit for purpose is a key responsibility of the Government. For those reasons, I commend the bill to the House.
Debate adjourned.
Members
MEMBER FOR NEWCASTLE
MEMBER FOR NORTH SHORE
MEMBER FOR PROSPECT
The SPEAKER: I wish the member for Newcastle, the member for North Shore and the member for
Prospect all the best for their upcoming birthdays and hope they have wonderful celebrations planned for the
break. I understand that the member for North Shore is looking forward to 7 June; the member for Newcastle,
3 June; and the member for Prospect, 15 June.
Visitors
VISITORS
The SPEAKER: I acknowledge guests of the member for Bega, Eden Marine High School year 11 legal
studies students. It is wonderful that you could be here. I welcome to the Parliament the student leaders from high
schools in New South Wales, who are attending the Secondary Schools Student Leadership Program conducted
by the Parliamentary Education Office. I welcome each and every one of you who are joining us today to
Australia's first Parliament. I acknowledge the guest of the Premier. I welcome Anna Minns, the wife of the
Premier.
Question Time
PUBLIC SECTOR WAGES
Mr MARK SPEAKMAN (Cronulla) (11:06): My question is directed to the Minister for Industrial
Relations. Does the Minister not have a clear conflict of interest in negotiating wages policy in secret with unions
who are her major political donors?
The SPEAKER: Government members will come to order.
Ms SOPHIE COTSIS (Canterbury—Minister for Industrial Relations, and Minister for Work
Health and Safety) (11:07): The Labor Government was elected on a mandate to remove the wages cap. The
people of New South Wales elected the Labor Government to scrap the wages cap. We are doing something that
is very foreign to those opposite: We are respecting our essential workers. We are respecting our nurses, our
teachers, our cleaners, our firefighters, our post workers.
The SPEAKER: The member for Hornsby will come to order.
Ms SOPHIE COTSIS: We are respecting them. Let me say this to the new Opposition members. It is
close to 12 years since those opposite introduced the legislative handbrake—
Mr Mark Speakman: Point of order—
The SPEAKER: The Minister will resume her seat. The Leader of the Opposition rises on a point of
order.
Mr Mark Speakman: My point of order is taken under Standing Order 129, direct relevance. The question
is not about the merits of the wages policy or what was taken to the election. It is about the conflict of interest.
This is not about the Opposition asking questions and there being one, two, three, four, five, six degrees of
separation. The test is direct relevance.
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Ms Jenny Aitchison: Point of order—
The SPEAKER: I understand the test. I thank the Leader of the Opposition for the quick lesson.
Mr Ron Hoenig: To the point of order—
The SPEAKER: Before I hear from the Leader of House on the point of order, I note that the member for
Maitland also has a point of order. The Clerk will stop the clock.
Mr Ron Hoenig: To the point of order: An answer that refers to the mandate the Government received at
an election must be directly relevant. There cannot be a conflict if we are acting in accordance with a mandate.
The SPEAKER: I will hear the point of order from the member for Maitland before I make my ruling.
Ms Jenny Aitchison: Mr Speaker, I draw your attention to an interjection by a member on the opposite
side of the Chamber just after the Minister started her contribution. It was a cat meow, which I find offensive, and
I ask that member to withdraw it.
The SPEAKER: I thank the member for Maitland for bringing that to my attention. If any member wishes
to withdraw, I invite them to do so. While the clock is stopped, I make this point. I have been in this place for
16-plus years and I am currently hearing some of the most puerile and offensive interjections I have ever heard.
If those types of interjections continue, I will do something I was never able to do from the crossbench—that is,
take action from the chair. Such interjections are totally inappropriate and demean the Legislative Assembly of
New South Wales. I do not wish to hear them. I will hear further from the Minister. The Minister is struggling to
be directly relevant. I ask her to assist me by being more closely relevant. We all understand the concept of direct
relevance, but it is sometimes almost impossible to be directly relevant. That is my ruling. The Minister has the
call.
Ms SOPHIE COTSIS: There is no conflict. The Labor Party won the election on 25 March.
Mrs Leslie Williams: Minority—by that much.
Ms SOPHIE COTSIS: If I were members opposite, I would look at their booths and the fact that every
single one of them had double-digit swings. Let me tell the member for Ryde—
The SPEAKER: The member for Wahroonga will come to order.
Mr Mark Speakman: Point of order—
The SPEAKER: The Minister will resume her seat. The Clerk will stop the clock. I will hear the point of
order from the Leader of the Opposition.
[Interruption]
Order! The member for Canterbury will come to order. I need to hear the point of order.
Mr Mark Speakman: My point order is taken under Standing Order 129, direct relevance. The Minister
answered the question. She claims that there is no conflict even though she is negotiating in secret with people
who are funding her. She has finished her answer. She should now sit down.
The SPEAKER: The Leader of the Opposition will resume his seat. There is no point of order. The
Minister was directly relevant after we considered the previous point of order. The Minister will continue.
Ms SOPHIE COTSIS: I am someone who was an airport hospitality worker, and I am very proud of my
background and of representing low-income workers. I learnt the power of negotiating when I was at Sydney
Airport, and I negotiated against people who were ripping off low-paid workers.
STATE ECONOMY
Ms JULIA FINN (Granville) (11:13): My question is addressed to the Premier. Will the Premier outline
to the House the budget and policy challenges faced by the incoming Government and any measures proposed?
Mr CHRIS MINNS (Kogarah—Premier) (11:13): That is a tough but fair question. The debt that has
been handed to the incoming Government is the largest debt ever handed from one government to another in the
history of New South Wales. It is $180 billion worth of debt, which is the largest debt ever racked up—as an
overall number or as a percentage of gross State product. The deficit handed down is $11 billion, again a record—
the highest number ever racked up by one government in the history of New South Wales.
The SPEAKER: The member for Port Macquarie will come to order. The member for Hornsby will come
to order.
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Mr CHRIS MINNS: The challenges are immense, and the Government has had to make difficult
decisions to deal with the mess that has been left to us by the previous Government. They include freezing the
salaries of politicians and the senior executive service, saving $260 million dollars for New South Wales
taxpayers. That means cutting the size of the senior executive service by 15 per cent—a significant cut, but
something we need to do because we cannot let Government spending run out of control. It also means reducing
spending on consultancies by $35 million a year, which is a significant cut.
The SPEAKER: The member for Wahroonga will come to order.
Mr CHRIS MINNS: We went to the election with tough but necessary calls on transfer payments as well
as business cases for unaffordable metros, where there is not the budget envelope to pay for that kind of
infrastructure.
The SPEAKER: The member for Hawkesbury will come to order.
Mr CHRIS MINNS: We were honest with the people of New South Wales before the election, because
$180 billion worth of debt needs to be paid off by future generations of young Australians. It is a significant debt.
In fact, the interest on that debt will be more than what the New South Wales Government spends on the
NSW Police Force every year—a result of out-of-control spending by the former Liberal-Nationals Government.
The SPEAKER: I call the member for Wahroonga to order for the first time.
Mr CHRIS MINNS: We all grew up with the narrative that the Liberal Party and The Nationals were, at
the end of the day, the party of economic conservativism. Does anyone believe that now? Their members do not
even believe that anymore. Under no circumstances were they fiscally responsible, and the largesse continues. In
this minority Parliament, we cannot get a handle on what the Opposition in fact stands for. Before the election,
Opposition members supported the State infrastructure contributions; after the election, they flipped their position.
Now they are against that legislation, which was introduced by the former Treasurer as necessary for the State.
Now he has decided that he has reversed it. Rob Stokes was a passionate advocate for it. [Extension of time]
Before the election it was called "asset recycling"; now, we are hearing lectures about the dangers of
privatisation.
The SPEAKER: Government members will come to order.
Mr CHRIS MINNS: Before the election, they were passionate supporters of the wages cap; now,
absolutely not. Perhaps some clarity can be found from the member for Wahroonga. I inform the House of a new
podcast in town. The member for Wahroonga has started a podcast. It is called "Don't Despair, with Alister". It is
called "Hurting for Henskens". It goes to that age-old but important principle in politics: If no-one will interview
you, interview yourself. Joe Rogan would be petrified!
The SPEAKER: The member for Wahroonga will come to order.
Mr CHRIS MINNS: He says, "The big issue coming down the pipeline is we haven't built as many
buildings as we needed to during the pandemic. We now have an accommodation crisis." That is curious because
the member for Wahroonga is the king of the nimbys. He said in no uncertain terms that he encourages councillors
to dramatically scale down the proposed number of dwellings in Ku-ring-gai. Last year Ku-ring-gai had
460 dwellings; Blacktown had 5,751. Will Opposition members please stand up and tell us what they will support
and what they will oppose?
The SPEAKER: Members will come to order. I understand that Opposition members were provoked.
The Premier enjoyed it; everyone enjoyed that one. But the House will now come to order.
HEALTH SERVICES UNION
Mrs TANYA DAVIES (Badgerys Creek) (11:19): My question is directed to the Minister for Industrial
Relations. Yesterday the Minister said, "Every worker has the right to take industrial action." Why then did the
Government seek orders last week in the Industrial Relations Commission against the Australian Paramedics
Association to stop them from taking industrial action?
The SPEAKER: The member for Wahroonga will come to order. The member for Hornsby will come to
order.
Ms SOPHIE COTSIS (Canterbury—Minister for Industrial Relations, and Minister for Work
Health and Safety) (11:19): Yesterday I did say—and I stand by it—that essential workers have the right to take
industrial action. And guess what!
The SPEAKER: The member for Port Macquarie will cease interjecting.
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Ms SOPHIE COTSIS: This is a lightning moment. Members opposite have found their way to support
essential workers. I acknowledge the member for Badgerys Creek. She is the only member out of all of those
opposite who managed to increase her margin. Well done. Congratulations. That is fantastic.
Mr Alister Henskens: Point of order—
The SPEAKER: The Minister will resume her seat. The Clerk will stop the clock. Order! All members
will come to order.
Mr Alister Henskens: My point of order relates to Standing Order 129. The question is quite clear. It is
directed towards why the Minister said one thing yesterday but last week sought orders against the paramedics to
stop them protesting. It is saying one thing, doing another. That is what the question is about.
The SPEAKER: The Minister has been directly relevant. I will not entertain any further points of order
taken under Standing Order 129 for the remainder of the answer. The Minister has set the bar.
Mr Mark Speakman: Point of order: With respect, Mr Speaker, you cannot do that. You cannot rule now
that any further point of order is not valid, without knowing what is going to come out of the Minister's mouth.
Otherwise you are giving her carte blanche to do and say anything.
The SPEAKER: I have heard the Leader of the Opposition. The previous ruling was commonly used
against the Opposition during the former Government's four years in office. The Minister has met the threshold
for direct relevance. It is difficult to say she has not. I stand by my ruling. I am sorry if that displeases the Leader
of the Opposition and the Manager of Opposition Business. I acknowledge that the member for Northern
Tablelands increased his margin as well. The Minister has the call.
Ms SOPHIE COTSIS: I stand corrected. I have been informed by my colleagues that it was not only the
member for Badgerys Creek who did very well, although she did achieve a swing as the only Liberal. National
Party members also did well. I remind members opposite that we have an Industrial Relations Commission, which
follows a process. It is interesting that, after 12 years, members opposite are now taking an interest in the workers
of this State. I say to those opposite that they should look at their booth results where a number of public sector
nurses, teachers and cleaners voted. Those people voted against members opposite because for 12 years they
imposed a wages cap and restricted wages growth. Two-thirds of teachers, nurses and paramedics are moving
interstate. Opposition members left us a mess. They had their chance and they failed.
DOMESTIC AND FAMILY VIOLENCE
Ms KAREN McKEOWN (Penrith) (11:24): My question is addressed to the Minister for Women, and
Minister for Prevention of Domestic Violence and Sexual Assault. Will the Minister update the House on the
approach of the New South Wales Government to address the scourge of domestic and family violence?
Ms JODIE HARRISON (Charlestown—Minister for Women, Minister for Seniors, and Minister for
the Prevention of Domestic Violence and Sexual Assault) (11:25): I thank the member for Penrith for her
question. As Minister for the Prevention of Domestic Violence and Sexual Assault and on behalf of the New South
Wales Government, I offer my sincerest apologies and condolences to the family and friends impacted by the
shocking and tragic death of a three-year-old child yesterday. This week there have been two horrendous examples
of families impacted by domestic violence. A child lost their mother and a family their child. The impact on
families and communities is nothing short of devastating. Last year alone there were 33,410 reported domestic
violence assaults in New South Wales; 25 of those incidents were murders and two of those murders were victims
under the age of 18. In the face of those shameful statistics, the violence against women and children in their
homes—the very place they should feel most safe—needs to stop.
The traumatic effect of domestic violence is most acutely felt by loved ones but it extends across our
communities to the many workers grappling with and responding to violence. Police are often first responders to
domestic violence, certainly once it has escalated. The Minister for Police has been meeting with police officers
from across the State and the number one issue they raise is the prevalence of domestic and family violence in
their communities. For the New South Wales police, domestic and family violence offending and associated harms
results in one call for assistance every four minutes. The trauma impact on the police who attend violent homes
night after night is difficult to imagine. There is one call for assistance every four minutes! Police involvement is
often at the crisis point. There is an urgent need for a joined-up, collaborative system that is sensitive to the early
signs of domestic violence and can offer a whole-of-systems approach, responsive in ways that are appropriate
and effective.
The Minns Labor Government is committed to leading change in this space. Agencies across government
have a role to play in an effective systems response to domestic violence. My ministerial colleagues across
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government, particularly those responsible for health, housing, child protection, police and justice, along with the
Premier, are equally committed to ending domestic violence. [Extension of time]
I have taken on the role as the Minister for Prevention of Domestic Violence and Sexual Assault with a
clear and determined commitment to prevention and early intervention. But the responsibility to end gender
inequality and gender-based violence is one every citizen must bear. As a government we can try to respond as
effectively as we can where violence has escalated, but as long as tolerance of any form of violence against women
and children continues in our community, the battle to overcome the daily scourge of domestic and family violence
will be an uphill one. I ask everyone in the community: If you see it and if you hear it, report it. If you see
unacceptable behaviour towards women, call it out. Women's rights are human rights and we must all play our
part in protecting them. My part will be to devote myself, as Minister, to working with my ministerial colleagues
across government, with our NGO partners, with victim-survivors and with communities to bring real change in
the fight to end domestic violence. Those of us who have been entrusted with the privilege of serving in public
office hold the greatest responsibility to be a voice for the voiceless and to lead change that will make our
community safer for women and children.
HOUSING SUPPLY
Ms JENNY LEONG (Newtown) (11:30): My question is directed to the Minister for Planning and Public
Spaces. Given the latest NSW Productivity Commission report's suggestion that housing density and supply need
to be increased closer to the city, will the Minister commit to mandatory inclusionary zoning for all new private
developments—which Shelter NSW, Sydney Alliance and Vinnies have long advocated for—to ensure a
significant percentage of those new dwellings are affordable in perpetuity?
Mr PAUL SCULLY (Wollongong—Minister for Planning and Public Spaces) (11:31): I thank the
member for Newtown for her question. She has long held a strong interest in making sure that people can get into
homes. I note her comments on the Productivity Commission report released yesterday calling for additional work
to be done around density to make sure that people can get into homes. Young people, like the students in the
gallery, would love to get into a home near where they live at the moment. I can see students from Kanahooka
High School in the gallery. They would love to stay around Kanahooka—a great part of the world. The Minister
for Health and the member for Shellharbour love it.
The Government was elected on a mandate to introduce a suite of measures with respect to housing and
housing supply. That involved improvements to rental arrangements. It included improvements to social housing
by bringing together tenancy and asset management arrangements into Homes NSW, and not selling off
$3.6 billion worth of social housing like the previous Government did. We have Landcom working on
build-to-rent pilots on the South Coast and Northern Rivers to develop a scheme to potentially roll out to the rest
of New South Wales. The member asked about inclusionary zoning. We also committed to introducing a target
of 30 per cent social, affordable and universal housing on surplus government land. We did that because we need
to not only grow the number of homes generally but also make sure that all tenures and all types of housing
options, particularly those close to transport and jobs, are available to people.
The Premier has requested that all departments and all Ministers speak to their agencies to identify where
some of those surplus land holdings might be where we can increase and improve the amount of housing that the
Government can lead in delivery. We have always said—and I have spoken to the member for Newtown about
this in the past—that the 30 per cent is not a ceiling. If we can go higher in a sensible arrangement, we will. I note
that other cities around the world have targets of around 50 per cent affordable housing on their public land. That
is baked into their housing supply system. The previous Government, of course, celebrated when it got to
5 per cent.
Ms Jenny Leong: Point of order: I appreciate that the Minister is talking about targets in relation to public
land. My question was specifically about implementing inclusionary zoning on private developments. It would be
great if he could get to that part of the question.
[Extension of time]
Mr PAUL SCULLY: Inclusionary zoning on public land is an important part of the housing mix as we
move forward. As I said before, there is no one type of housing or tenure that is going to deal with the problem
that we have. We have no silver bullet for it. The housing that we are talking about and that we need is not about
punishing or class war; it is about making sure young people and families have a roof over their heads. During
my time as shadow Minister and more recently as Minister, I have had informal conversations with some of the
larger builders in the State about the opportunities there might be to extend social and affordable housing options
onto private land. That is quite a change to the way that New South Wales works at the moment, but it is potentially
a very positive change.
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While I cannot commit to introducing a target in the Chamber during question time, I can commit to the
member that we will be having those conversations and we will be working in a constructive manner where there
are opportunities to bring private land into the system. As I said, in other parts of the world it is baked into the
way it is done. But we need to do this with an active engagement with industry, with other stakeholders and with
community housing providers to make sure that it is ready to go. I am keen to do that active engagement and
explore sensible, workable options when it comes to public policy. We all need to work together. All communities
have to contribute their part to sensible, workable housing options that make sure that we are dealing with the
housing crisis at the moment and that we are getting people into homes near jobs and transport in well-located
areas. We are implementing our election commitments at the moment, but I am open to options into the future.
POINT TO POINT TRANSPORT AND SURGE PRICING
Mr JASON LI (Strathfield) (11:36): My question is addressed to the Minister for Transport. What work
has the New South Wales Government done to help passengers avoid unchecked surge pricing for ridesharing
services when unplanned public transport disruptions occur?
Ms JO HAYLEN (Summer Hill—Minister for Transport) (11:36): I thank the member for Strathfield
for his question and his interest in and advocacy for passengers using rideshare and, indeed, for commuters across
his community. I am really proud to inform the House today that, in an Australian first, the Minns Labor
Government has reached a groundbreaking agreement with Uber to protect the rights of passengers. Our
agreement will ensure that, from now on, Uber is part of the official Transport Management Centre process in
responding to unplanned incidents. That is really big news for passengers who have to rely on Uber when those
disruptions occur. It means that, if we have a health emergency or a signal network failure or an incident that
might affect part or all of our transport network, Transport for NSW will act immediately to inform Uber.
While Uber monitors activity on our public transport network through its regional security centre, it will
now have a direct point of contact to our Transport Management Centre. It will formalise a direct and clear line
of communication that ensures that both parties can respond quickly to emergency situations to make sure people
are able to get home quickly and safely. For members unaware of how Uber works, the company's computer
algorithm responds to spikes in demand by raising the fare. That is the famous "Uber surge". It brings more drivers
out and it helps more people complete their journey in Uber if they are willing to pay that higher price. Then, as
the demand goes down, so does the price. But, because it is automated, in the past we have seen many instances
where it has surged out of control. When there are major disruptions to our trains, thousands of people hit their
Uber app simultaneously. That has led to extreme fare spikes, sometimes up to hundreds and hundreds of dollars.
But the good news is, from now on, Transport for NSW will immediately alert Uber—person to person,
not through computers or an algorithm—and work with it to get more drivers where they are needed. Having been
alerted, Uber will monitor the situation and apply a human intervention to limit the surge. If we have major train
disruptions, people will be able to resort to Uber in confidence, knowing that there will be some surge but that it
will be limited to a reasonable level. It will not surge out of control. Uber will take active steps to ensure faster
and more efficient communications with drivers during disruptions. It will push notifications out to its drivers
when things go wrong on our public transport network. [Extension of time]
I thank Uber for working collaboratively with the Government and reaching that partnership in the interests
of passengers across New South Wales. The process was first trialled when the fire occurred in Surry Hills last
week. When that fire broke out, immediately adjacent to Central station, it stopped light rail and buses and left
many passengers without public transport during the evening peak. They were trying to get home and many of
them reached out to Uber. Under our arrangement, Transport for NSW spoke to Uber representatives. They acted
immediately and limited that surge to keep it affordable, so they worked constructively with the Government to
keep people moving.
I want the House to compare that to what happened in March last year. I have spoken about it many times
before and passengers will remember it. On 8 March our train network came to a grinding halt. The entire digital
communication system failed and thousands of passengers were left stranded. Uber had systems in place to limit
that surge, but those opposite had no coordination with a key part of our transport network. They did not talk to
Uber, and instead prices surged to hair-raising levels. It left passengers stranded and, to be frank, it damaged
Uber's reputation.
The former Minister for Transport tried to distract from all of that chaos, caused by his own neglect, by
saying it was all Uber's fault, but the fact is that he had no lines of communication with or actual management of
our transport network. I am pleased to inform the House that those days are over. Government members are not
in the business of division; we are in the business of finding solutions. The Minns Labor Government will make
sure it gets people on the road quickly and safely.
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LOCAL GOVERNMENT EXPENSES
Mr MICHAEL KEMP (Oxley) (11:41): My question is directed to the Minister for Local Government.
On Tuesday the Minister said councils are guilty of "egregious expenses". What services does the Minister suggest
regional councils cut in order to rein in those egregious expenses?
The SPEAKER: The member for Canterbury will come to order.
Mr RON HOENIG (Heffron—Minister for Local Government) (14:42): What I want councils to do
is take control of their finances. What I want elected mayors and councillors to do is not have the transparency of
their finances withheld from them by bureaucracies. I want them to be given the opportunity to manage the
finances in their council areas, because if elected people were able to do that then we would not be receiving
reports from the Auditor-General about the crisis in local government. In fact, 12 years of Coalition management
of local government has seen a deterioration right across the State. It is a bit rich when members opposite came
to office with guarantees and promises for local government and just broke them and treated them with contempt.
Who remembers the promise that there would be no forced amalgamations—the guarantee: "Toole, 'It's a
promise'"?
Mr Alister Henskens: Point of order: My point of order is taken under Standing Order 129. It was a very
specific question about which services provided by regional councils the Minister believes should be cut. He has
not mentioned regional councils once.
The SPEAKER: I uphold the point of order. The Minister will be directly relevant.
Mr RON HOENIG: It is directly relevant because most of the merged councils in rural and regional
New South Wales are the most financially insecure in New South Wales because of the breach of the promise,
"Toole, 'It's a promise'", that there would be no merger or amalgamation.
The SPEAKER: The member for Dubbo will come to order.
Mr RON HOENIG: The newspaper article stated:
Mr Toole reiterated the NSW Liberals and Nationals' long standing opposition to forced council amalgamations.
Mr Alister Henskens: Point of order: I regret to say the Minister is flouting the ruling. He was asked to
be more relevant but has continued with the irrelevant material that the Speaker ruled against.
The SPEAKER: I appreciate the point of order and it is probably correct. But the Minister is being
relevant, if not directly relevant, and I will allow him to finish.
Mr RON HOENIG: Which councils are insecure? [Extension of time]
Those councils were left in a financially insecure position, many of them incapable of managing their own
affairs efficiently and economically, as found by the Auditor-General. The people who should be determining
where they should be effecting savings and where they should reduce their expenditure are the elected
representatives of the council. It is the elected representatives that should be empowered to make those
determinations. It is not for the Minister or the State to tell an individual council where it should reduce its level
of expenditure.
Mr Gurmesh Singh: Point of order: My point of order is taken under Standing Order 130. If it is not for
the Minister to say it, then why did he call the expenses egregious yesterday? He should name the services that he
would cut.
The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. The Minister has the call.
Mr RON HOENIG: Government members want to see councillors and mayors re-empowered—powers
those opposite took from them over 12 years—to determine where the wastage is. I can tell the House one thing:
This Government will fight for the ratepayers of this State. It will fight to ensure economic efficiency by
empowering elected people in this State to run their councils and their cities, not by removing their authority and
giving it to bureaucrats as members opposite have done. Those opposite have treated the elected people with
disrespect. Government members will empower them to ensure that their ratepayers get value for the dollar. We
will ensure they have the opportunity to do just that.
The SPEAKER: The Clerk will stop the clock. I acknowledge the second group of visitors in the upper
gallery, student leaders from high schools in New South Wales who are attending the Secondary Schools
Leadership Program conducted by the Parliamentary Education Unit. They were acknowledged by the Minister
for Planning and Public Spaces.
Mr Paul Scully: Smith's Hill and St Mary are up there as well—two great schools from Wollongong.
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The SPEAKER: An excellent shout-out, but there are lots of students in the upper gallery. I hope they
are appreciating their day here in Australia's first Parliament. The member for North Shore will come to order.
The Clerk will start the clock.
TEACHING STAFF
Mr CLAYTON BARR (Cessnock) (11:48): I acknowledge the students in the gallery from Cessnock
and West Wallsend high schools. My question is addressed to the Minister for Education and Early Learning. Will
the Minister update the House on how the Minns Labor Government is delivering on its election commitment to
transfer 10,000 temporary teaching roles into permanent roles?
Ms PRUE CAR (Londonderry—Deputy Premier, Minister for Education and Early Learning, and
Minister for Western Sydney) (11:48): I thank the member for Cessnock for his question and congratulate him
on what is probably his twenty-fifth re-election to this House! Did The Nationals run someone against the member
for Cessnock? I do not know whether they did. I think they are pretty terrified of the member for Cessnock because
of his commitment to his community, and particularly to the essential workers of New South Wales. I am happy
to take a question from the member for Cessnock or any member of this House about how this Labor Government
is doing what it needs to do for the essential workers of this State. In fact, I am happy to take a question from
anyone. Members opposite seem obsessed when asking questions about this matter, having driven down the
salaries, hopes and dreams of essential workers, including teachers, for 12 years. I hope they understand from
today that maybe asking the member for Canterbury questions about workers' rights is not the best strategic
decision for them.
We know that we had a school staffing crisis in New South Wales because, when the Liberals and The
Nationals in government and had their chance, they were obsessed with casualisation. Listen to this. Before the
election, nearly 40 per cent of the public school teaching workforce were either temporary or casual employees.
In our view that is unacceptable. That is thousands and thousands of teachers in precarious work, which is
appalling to this Government.
Mr Warren Kirby: Great for our kids!
Ms PRUE CAR: The member for Riverstone is right: It is great for our kids—not. It is a terrible result
for our kids. The Government is bringing an end to this finally and, just as we promised, we are giving more
teachers more certainty and more stability. We are ploughing ahead with great speed on our commitment to make
16,000 teachers and our hardworking support staff in our schools permanent. Work began on that only four weeks
ago and we are making great progress. I give the House of a few examples that are coming in thick and fast to me
and to local members. The Briar Road Public School in Airds does amazing work with a particular population of
Aboriginal students. The school is doing amazing work connecting kids to country. The principal contacted us
and is so proud that he was able to make three staff permanent straightaway when this was announced. That is
three permanent staff at an amazing school who will make a difference to the trajectory of those kids' lives. That
is what this Government is doing.
The SPEAKER: I take it that the signal from the member for Cessnock means he is seeking additional
information. Two minutes is granted.
Ms PRUE CAR: Thumbs up from the member for Cessnock. At Carinya School, which is a school for
specific purposes in Mortdale, one of the teachers who was recently made permanent, Luke Porter, reported to his
local paper, The Liverpool Leader:
There was an unspoken understanding that I have a job here, but it was still in the back of my head if something happens, I might not
... I'm living at home but looking at home loans in a few years so it's a massive thing.
Luke has been offered a permanent job as a teacher at a school for specific purposes. Anyone who has ever been
to a school for specific purposes knows those teachers are angels. Luke's principal, Craig Cleaver, said:
For him to be a permanent is absolutely a bonus for us. You haven't lost someone as an early and new career teacher.
Under the former Government, those teachers were literally leaving in their thousands. He continued:
Kids, parents and schools will be better off because of people like Luke.
That is why people changed the Government and that is what the Minns Labor Government is doing. It is
heartwarming stuff. It makes me so proud to be the education Minister in this Labor Government that is putting
people at its heart. I remind members opposite—they probably realise this because they would be getting the
feedback from their teachers locally—that half of the permanent positions being offered are in regional New South
Wales. There was a crisis of casualisation in regional New South Wales. The Nationals, the champions of
casualisation in country New South Wales, were doing their best and were always out there fighting to ensure that
regional New South Wales got its fair share of teachers—in unstable and insecure work. Well done, guys! It has
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taken the election of a Labor government to fix their mess. The Government is very proud of the work that we are
doing.
Mr Alister Henskens: Point of order—
The SPEAKER: The Manager of Opposition Business rises on a point of order. I understand the Minister
has concluded her answer and that time has expired.
Mr Alister Henskens: The question from the Grand Duke of Cessnock, as the union officials refer to
him—
The SPEAKER: The Manager of Opposition Business will resume his seat. I call the Manager of
Opposition Business to order for the second time.
KOGARAH ELECTORATE DEVELOPMENT
Mr MATT CROSS (Davidson) (11:54): My question is directed to the Premier. In 2018 he opposed the
building of 19-storey residential apartment towers above Kogarah station. Would he now support that
development?
Mr CHRIS MINNS (Kogarah—Premier) (11:55): That development is before the Minister for Planning
and Public Spaces. He will have to make a decision. It is an unsolicited proposal. But I make the point that in the
period from 2011 to 2023 the Kogarah electorate went from a density of 31 per cent being apartments or units to
48 per cent being apartments or units. In terms of density, we went from 28,000 apartments or houses to
36,000 apartments or houses. I am not disputing that. I do not think any member of Parliament or any community
would expect every—
Mr Alister Henskens: Point of order—
The SPEAKER: Members will come to order. The Clerk will stop the clock. Government members,
particularly frontbenchers, will come to order. I need to hear the point of order from the Manager of Opposition
Business.
Mr Alister Henskens: It is a very specific question directed towards a particular 19-storey development
above Kogarah station. The Premier has talked all about his electorate but has not addressed that development.
Mr CHRIS MINNS: What is your point of order?
Mr Alister Henskens: Direct relevance.
Mr Ron Hoenig: To the point of order: The answer to the question asked is clearly directly relevant. The
point of order is baseless, which is deliberately disorderly and obstructive. Mr Speaker, I ask that you call the
member for Wahroonga to order for a third time.
The SPEAKER: At this point I will not call the Manager of Opposition Business to order for a third time,
but I will ask the Premier—
Mr CHRIS MINNS: I answered it straight up: It is before the planning Minister.
The SPEAKER: The Premier may continue his answer.
Mr CHRIS MINNS: Thank you, Mr Speaker. I do not think any community would expect its local
member of Parliament to unambiguously in all circumstances approve every single building application presented
to their community, but the facts unambiguously support a major increase in density for the community in
Kogarah. That is not a bad thing. There are two train lines that intersect my electorate—the East Hills line and the
Illawarra line. There is a total of eight train stations. It makes sense in a growing city with urban consolidation to
have an increase in communities closer to the city from 32 per cent to 48 per cent. I make the point that over the
same period we have seen housing targets from the previous Government that are completely out of whack with
a growing city. I give some statistics. Western Sydney-The Hills district has to accommodate an additional
120,000 people over the next 15 years.
Mr Mark Speakman: Point of order: My point of order relates to Standing Order 129, direct relevance.
It is a simple question: Does the Premier support this development? It is not about Western Sydney, although that
may be a reason why he does or does not. Does he support this development—direct relevance?
The SPEAKER: I thank the Leader of the Opposition.
Mr CHRIS MINNS: It is an unsolicited proposal before the planning Minister. Does the Leader of the
Opposition really expect me, as the Premier, to offer an opinion before it is assessed? Is that what he is asking, or
is it that he does not understand the basics of the question?
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The SPEAKER: Members will come to order. I call the member for Rockdale to order.
Mr CHRIS MINNS: I am interested in the member's question. He has made contributions about
development in his local community.
The SPEAKER: I call the member for Kellyville to order. I call the member for Rockdale to order for the
first time.
Mr CHRIS MINNS: He said in his contributions in this House and elsewhere, "We need more homes
and supporting infrastructure … not overdevelopment" and certainly not in my area. It would destroy our "unique
character". The only thing we have seen in relation to this housing crisis in New South Wales has been nimbyism
on steroids.
Mr Matt Cross: Mr Speaker, I request an extension of time to hear the Premier's answer.
Mr CHRIS MINNS: I am happy to have it.
The SPEAKER: I have not decided yet.
Mr CHRIS MINNS: I am more than happy.
The SPEAKER: The member for Davidson seeks additional information. Be careful what you ask for.
The Premier has an additional two minutes.
Mr CHRIS MINNS: I make the point that in the last 12 months of the former Government, density in the
member's area of Ku-ring-gai went up by 450; in the Northern Beaches it increased by 700 in a 12-month period.
Compare that to Camden, which had an increase of 2,500. Blacktown was 5,700, Liverpool was 2,489 and
Parramatta was 2,761. We often speak about nimbys—
Mr Matt Kean: Point of order: It is direct relevance.
The SPEAKER: The Premier will continue to be relevant to the question.
Mr CHRIS MINNS: We often talk about nimbys, but there is a new term: build absolutely nothing
anywhere near anyone, or BANANA. We are hearing from the king of the BANANAs. He will not share the load.
At the end of the day, let us get serious about Sydney's housing crisis and have some fairness with the planning
system. That is what this Government will do.
HEALTH WORKER SAFETY
Dr MICHAEL HOLLAND (Bega) (12:01): My question is addressed to the Minister for Health. Will
the Minister update the House on the steps the Minns Government is taking to keep our essential health workers
safe?
Mr RYAN PARK (Keira—Minister for Health, Minister for Regional Health, and Minister for the
Illawarra and the South Coast) (12:01): I thank the member for Bega for his question. He is a fantastic
Parliamentary Secretary for Health. I met with him yesterday in his local health district, Southern. He is doing
great work and he is a terrific advocate.
Mr Steve Whan: Who else was there, Minister?
Mr RYAN PARK: And the member for Monaro. Yes, he is also a good advocate.
[A member interjected.]
Never despair, it's Alister—I still cannot get over the fact that we have a member in this place who has a
podcast called Never Despair, It's Alister. What is next? Speaking with Speakman? Talking with Toole? That is
the one I am tuning into—Talking with Toole. The podcast subscription is coming this afternoon. I hope members
on both sides of the House take safety for healthcare workers very seriously. I acknowledge that in the last term
of government the former Minister for Health commissioned a report from Peter Anderson, a former Minister for
Health and Minister for Police in this place. He was also the member for Penrith and the member for Liverpool.
The extensive report outlined a range of recommendations to make work safer for healthcare workers.
Unfortunately, over the past few months I have been concerned by the number of attacks on our healthcare
workers. Members know about the death of Stephen Tougher. I will be meeting with his family again this
afternoon. Last week there were incidents at Concord where four healthcare workers were seriously assaulted.
I spoke to those healthcare workers the day after about that very distressing incident. The report by Peter Anderson
was comprehensive and listed a range of recommendations. When I came into this job, I wanted to get a sense of
how far the healthcare system had got in implementing those recommendations. To be frank, we need to do better.
That is why I have asked Peter Anderson to give me an independent analysis of how far and how deep into the
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system the recommendations have been implemented, and where the Government needs to do more. And, more
importantly, who in the system is doing well in protecting healthcare workers and who needs additional support.
[Extension of time]
I always think about what I would want if a family member was a security guard, a cleaner, a paramedic,
a nurse or an allied health care worker. I would want to make sure that the environment is as safe as possible. The
environment in emergency departments and hospitals at the moment is very different to what it was 10, 15 or
20 years ago. We now have increased presentations from people with mental health issues, but also issues with
drugs and alcohol—particularly the drug ice, which has incredible powers over a person's physical strength—and
often healthcare workers are on the front line of attack.
The review will be short, sharp and to the point. I want to make sure that every single health service is
doing what it can every single day to protect the men and women who care and look after us when we go to
hospital. I want to make sure that paramedics are getting support out in the field. I want to make sure that
improvements can be made legislatively and through equipment, training and to the way the system works. All
members share that desire. I do not think any member in this place has not heard about someone being attacked
in a hospital or in a healthcare setting. Therefore, we need do better and we will do better. I thank Peter Anderson
for his commitment and his undertaking to do this. I had a meeting with him about it recently after a number of
serious reports came to my attention. I thought they did not make sense and would not happen if we were
implementing those recommendations. I will update the House as we go through the process, and I invite any
member to engage with Peter Anderson.
REGIONAL APPRENTICE TRAVEL CARD
Ms STEPH COOKE (Cootamundra) (12:06): My question is directed to the Minister for Skills, TAFE
and Tertiary Education. Will the Minister rule out axing the regional apprentice travel card?
Mr TIM CRAKANTHORP (Newcastle—Minister for Skills, TAFE and Tertiary Education, and
Minister for the Hunter) (12:06): I thank the member for Cootamundra for the question. I think it is a bit rich
to have to field questions from members opposite about funding for TAFE and vocational education. It is very
unusual. Opposition members are embarrassed and I think that is why it has taken so long for them to ask me a
question about vocational education.
The SPEAKER: Order!
Mr TIM CRAKANTHORP: The Opposition has a dismal record on vocational education. In fact, it has
not only a terrible record on vocational education but also a shocking record on financial management. We are
elected and what do we see? A $7 billion black hole in the budget. We see a debt—
The SPEAKER: The Minister will resume his seat. The Manager of Opposition Business has forgotten
the protocol but he rises to take a point of order. I will hear the point of order.
Mr Alister Henskens: The question is not about the past two years of record funding for TAFE. The
question about the 5,000 or more apprentices who use the regional apprentice travel card.
The SPEAKER: Does the point of order relate to direct relevance?
Mr Alister Henskens: Yes.
The SPEAKER: That is what I wanted to hear. The Minister is more than one minute into his answer and
he has not gone close to answering the question. The Minister will be directly relevant to the question.
Mr TIM CRAKANTHORP: Thank you, Mr Speaker. I will certainly get to it. I did get interrupted. I just
wanted to finish saying that we have $180 billion worth of debt, the interest of which will cost us and the
taxpayers—
Mr Dugald Saunders: Point of order—
The SPEAKER: The Minister will resume his seat. The member for Dubbo rises on a point of order.
I will hear the point of order.
Mr Dugald Saunders: My point of order is taken under Standing Order 129, direct relevance. Will the
Minister support or axe the apprentice travel card? It is a simple question.
The SPEAKER: I thank the member for Dubbo. I have just ruled on that point of order. The Minister is
getting to the answer; he needed a few seconds to warm up. Opposition frontbenchers will come to order.
Mr TIM CRAKANTHORP: We saw a $180 billion debt. We have also seen the devastation of our
vocational education system. We have seen slashes, we have seen cuts—
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The SPEAKER: I call the member for North Shore to order for the first time.
Ms Steph Cooke: I seek an extension of time.
The SPEAKER: I grant an additional two minutes. I implore the Minister to be directly relevant to the
question. He has not come close to relevance yet.
Mr TIM CRAKANTHORP: The Regional Apprentice and University Student Travel Card is another
National Party special. The Nationals are begging us to keep a program that they did not have the decency to fund
themselves. It is another trial put forward with $98 million in fictional funding.
Mr Dugald Saunders: Point of order: It is under Standing Order 129, direct relevance. Is the Minister
confirming that the Government is cutting the card?
The SPEAKER: The member for Dubbo will resume his seat. The Minister has the call.
Mr TIM CRAKANTHORP: The department was essentially told to find the funds by cancelling other
programs. The implementation cost is around $4 million to administer the cared to 5,302 users.
The SPEAKER: Opposition members will come to order. I cannot hear the Minister.
Mr TIM CRAKANTHORP: That is well short of the 50,000 apprentices that were expected to take it
up. In fact, I have been advised that it is costing about $1,000 to deliver a $250 card.
The SPEAKER: The member for Wahroonga will come to order. I call the member for Dubbo to order
for the first time.
Mr TIM CRAKANTHORP: The taxpayers of this State deserve better. They deserve better than those
opposite and their record of destroying vocational education, slashing teachers and selling off campuses.
SKILLS AND TRAINING
Mr TRI VO (Cabramatta) (12:12): My question is addressed to the Minister for Skills, TAFE and
Tertiary Education. I hope it will not cause as much excitement as my last question. Will the Minister advise the
House how the Government is funding skills and training providers in New South Wales?
The SPEAKER: Opposition members will come to order.
Mr TIM CRAKANTHORP (Newcastle—Minister for Skills, TAFE and Tertiary Education, and
Minister for the Hunter) (12:13): I thank the member for Cabramatta for his question. He is a fine member of
Parliament. I am proud to serve alongside the member for Cabramatta each and every day. He represents his
community, he stands up for his community and he believes in his community. The member for Cabramatta knows
full well the power of opportunity that comes from good skills and training. The Minns Labor Government was
elected to put TAFE back into the heart of our vocational education system after 12 years of cuts, 12 years of
sackings and 12 years of selling off 14 campuses. TAFE in this State has been hollowed out and neglected for far
too long. The Minns Labor Government was elected to repair that damage, prepare the State for the future and
deliver a system that is more inclusive to all potential students in our State.
Mr David Harris: How?
Mr TIM CRAKANTHORP: How, you ask? The House has heard my vision for the skills and training
system. It is one that works for the people, invites people in and respects our great teachers, students and staff.
The House knows that the Government was elected to undertake a comprehensive review of the vocational
education system as part of restoring TAFE to the heart of our State. Turning around 12 years of cuts cannot
happen overnight. Urgent investment cannot come quickly enough. Big improvements will take time. The House
has already seen my immediate priority, which is to invest modestly but meaningfully to lift the cap on equity
loadings for providers. Today I announce a significant investment in our skills and training program. After an
extensive, thorough and rigorous process of assessment, I advise the House that I have approved $710 million in
funding for training providers. TAFE NSW sits at the heart of that large investment. It is an investment in courses
from one end of the State to the other, from the Northern Rivers to the Murray, from Sydney to the Far West. It is
an investment in the skills and training that we need by a Government that is proud of its public institution. We
are proud of our TAFE. [Time expired.]
ORANGE ELECTORATE PALLIATIVE CARE
Mr PHILIP DONATO (Orange) (12:16): My question is directed to the Minister for Health. The
community of Orange is growing rapidly, as is its aging population. Therefore, there is an increased demand for
inpatient palliative care. Will the Minister consider funding a 12-bed palliative care hospice in Orange—a service
dedicated to pain management, respite care and end-of-life care for palliative patients?
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Mr RYAN PARK (Keira—Minister for Health, Minister for Regional Health, and Minister for the
Illawarra and the South Coast) (12:17): I thank the member for Orange for his important question. I have had
the opportunity to meet already with the member for Orange and discuss a range of issues in the Central West.
One of those issues is palliative care. I acknowledge that this issue is important to the member for Orange. A
community group has been set up called Orange Push for Palliative. It is an important local community group that
is advocating for an expansion of palliative care services across that part of New South Wales. I also acknowledge
that this was an important issue for the former Premier.
Mr Ron Hoenig: I seek the leave of the House to allow the Minister to complete his answer.
The SPEAKER: I was about to draw the House's attention to the clock. Under standing orders, the time
for questions has expired. The Leader of the House has sought the indulgence of the House to allow the Minister
to complete his answer. Is leave granted?
Leave granted.
Mr RYAN PARK: I thank the House for the extension of time. I acknowledge the former Premier's
commitment to palliative care. It is one that I think many members in this place share. I have made a commitment
to the member for Orange that I will do a couple of things. First, I will visit Orange very soon to meet with the
community group to discuss the proposal for a 12-bed palliative care unit. I have also asked NSW Health to begin
an examination of what we might be able to do to expand palliative care in that region. In addition to that, the
Government is introducing palliative care in the home in Orange. A trial will begin in 2024 and is designed to
support people who want to receive palliative care in the home. Not everyone wants to receive palliative care
outside the home setting.
It is important that we provide those opportunities, particularly for people in rural and regional
communities, who often must travel very long distances to access palliative care—something that those of us in
large metropolises do not always have to deal with. I will continue to work with the member for Orange and
I thank him for his tireless advocacy for his community about a very important issue. I will be out there visiting
and meeting with this group very soon. I have asked NSW Health to look at what we might be able to do in this
space on top of what we are already doing there, which is expanding some of the inpatient services and providing
palliative care in the home starting from next year. But I understand that we can do better in this space. I think
that all governments, whether now or in the future, should be focused on making sure that the palliative care we
provide tomorrow is better than what we provide today. I know that this is an important issue to the member's
community and to the people of New South Wales.
The SPEAKER: I thank the Minister, and I thank the House for its indulgence with that. I advise the
House that question time extended beyond the 70 minutes provided for by Standing Order 131 (4). Question time
has now concluded.
SPECIALIST HOMELESSNESS SERVICES
Mr RON HOENIG: By leave: Pursuant to Standing Order 131 (7), I table a written response from the
Premier to a question asked by the member for Kiama on 30 May 2023.
Documents
AUDITOR-GENERAL
Reports
The CLERK: In accordance with section 52B of the Government Sector Audit Act 1983, I announce
receipt of the financial audit report of the Attorney General entitled Natural disasters, dated 1 June 2023, received
this day and authorised to be printed.
Bills
ELECTORAL FUNDING AMENDMENT (REGISTERED CLUBS) BILL 2023
Messages
The DEPUTY SPEAKER (Ms Sonia Hornery): I report receipt of a message from the Legislative
Council agreeing to the Legislative Assembly's amendments.
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Members
INAUGURAL SPEECHES
The SPEAKER: Before calling the member for Ryde, I genuinely and warmly welcome those friends
and family of the member for Ryde who have come along to see and hear his inaugural speech. That includes the
member's parents, Janelle and Richard; the member's sisters, Kendall and Madison; the member's partner, Natalie
Hissey, and her mother, Molly Hissey; a former member for Ryde, the Hon. Victor Dominello, who as a digital
native is watching via livestream; another former member for Ryde, the Hon. Michael Photios; a former member
for North Sydney, Trent Zimmerman, who has been around here a lot over the past few days; the State Director
of the New South Wales Liberal Party, Chris Stone; the mayor of Ryde, Sarkis Yedelian; the deputy mayor of
Ryde, Shweta Deshpande; Ryde councillors Trenton Brown, Daniel Han, Justin Li and Sophie Lara-Watson; a
former mayor of Ryde, Artin Etmekdjian; a former deputy mayor of Ryde, Peter Kim; former Ryde councillor
Chris Moujalli; the mayor of Hunters Hill, Zac Miles; Waverley councillors Sally Betts and Will Nemesh; and
Sutherland councillor Haris Strangas. I call the member for Ryde.
Mr JORDAN LANE (Ryde) (12:29): In seeking inspiration for this inaugural address, I reflected on an
evening in late 2012. While a student at Marist College Eastwood, I was a contestant in the Epping Eastwood
Lions Youth of the Year contest, a contest that I am pleased to inform the House continues to this day. The
competition involved a series of interviews, a demonstration of community or sporting participation and two
public speaking addresses. One of the addresses was designed to be impromptu—that is, a topic is given, and you
get two minutes to speak without notice. My topic was "Who is your hero, and why?" Many of you know that
I am a keen cyclist. And so, without hesitation, I dove into an enthusiastic monologue espousing the wonderful
virtues of Lance Armstrong—someone who, just weeks later, would become infamous not for his cycling
achievements, or the extraordinary road to recovery having defied death and beaten cancer, but as a drug cheat.
The experience was a clear reminder of that old adage that you should never meet your heroes, for they are sure
to disappoint you. Perhaps I am overly cynical, but since that day, I have often struggled to draw inspiration from
any one person. Rather, I have sought to draw out the best in many, while remaining true to my own lodestar.
So what is that lodestar? Where did it come from, and how did it develop? Much of it can be traced back
to my family upbringing. In many ways, it was totally unremarkable. My story is not one of triumph over tragedy.
It does not start somewhere on the other side of the world. I cannot stand here today and pretend that my journey
to this place was forged from some "road to Damascus" experience. The simple truth is that I was extraordinarily
privileged, but not by any measure of wealth. Indeed, my parents, Janelle and Richard, who are here today and to
whom I owe everything, never derived their richness from money. The privilege I speak of is the comfort, nurture,
and abundance of opportunity that I was afforded growing up with my two precious and wonderful sisters, Kendall
and Madison. We were told every single day that we could be whatever we wanted to be. Lane family legend has
it that those daily edifications led to some grandiose delusions. I have been told that my first five years as an only
child were characterised as horrific, precocious and brattish. It is alleged that my sisters' influence on the
household was instrumental in setting me straight.
Unlike most siblings, my sisters and I very rarely fought, and today they are two of the most supportive
and loyal people I know. While I was too young to remember whether they did in fact set me straight as a child,
what I know for certain now as an adult is that I would not be standing where I am today were it not for their
efforts. It is a shame that fewer and fewer children grow up with siblings these days—a product of our busy work
schedules, the increased cost of living and the many entrenched and often gendered inequities that permeate even
the most modern workplaces and households.
The unspoken backstory of our supposedly charmed upbringing is that it was built upon the struggle,
sacrifice and hardship of others. Before she met my dad, my mum nearly lost her life in a major car accident one
New Year's Eve. Told she would never walk again, there appeared little hope of a successful career. Such were
the injuries sustained that night, it was conceivable that Kendall, Madison and I may never have been born. Even
after relearning to walk, the prevailing view of the time was that while it was desirable for women to remain
homemakers, were she to insist on working, it should only be in a clerical role at the local bank. The suggestion
of a young woman starting her own business was actively discouraged. Those of you who know my mum will
therefore be unsurprised to learn that shortly thereafter, a small home-based manufacturing business was born that
would one day serve as my first ever taste of employment.
My dad was similarly resilient. Despite growing up locally in Epping, he was unable to afford a home in
Sydney and so relocated to the Central Coast to start his own plumbing business—a story that is still too common
for many tradespeople and frontline workers today. Eventually moving back to the local area, having saved enough
money, he and my mum would go on to build their respective businesses almost entirely around creating
availability for my sisters and me. While they could have made more money, they chose instead to never miss a
school presentation. Although it was never their plan, their active involvement early on was likely what nudged
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me towards politics. When I wanted to earn some extra money growing up, Dad would take me along on some of
the most dreadful plumbing jobs, one time digging a trench through pure mud in the torrential rain. He told me
years later that this was a deliberate ploy designed to direct my path away from plumbing.
Mum and Dad wanted me to pursue further study and seize upon opportunities that were never available
to them. I often wonder if they regret that intervention. A career in plumbing is arguably cleaner than a career in
politics! Nevertheless, I was the first in my family to graduate from university. Shortly thereafter, my sisters did
the same. From the foresight of loving parents who knew better, one cycle ended and another started. It changed
the course of our lives and put us on exponentially better paths. I am eternally cognisant of my fortune in this
respect, and lament that not every child will grow up in that same supportive environment. It is why a strong and
modern school system is so important.
My priority will always be to create the very best standard of education for future generations so that
regardless of their home life, kids enrolled in New South Wales schools are given the very best start in life. We
must take advantage of the extraordinary advancements in technology and think in new and holistic ways about
how to tackle the challenges of the future. Nowadays we have the capacity to seamlessly share the very best
lessons from the very best teachers, anywhere in our State. We can offer a broader range of information to help
every child pursue their dreams. However, our focus should also be broader—on using the structures of education
to influence that which is beyond the classroom and, in particular, to empower parents, especially mothers, to
retain their independence and, if they decide, to remain connected to the workforce and not be forced to choose
between their own career progression and raising children.
No longer can we get by with a system that was structured in an era when women did not work, and
households were comfortably sustained on a single income. The great travesty of public policy will be if the
education system of the 2050s looks as it did when it was established in the 1950s. It is a relic of a sexist, bygone
era, when society assumed women stayed at home and were responsible for the school pick-up. We know that
each additional year of educational attainment results, on average, in additional earning capacity. We have done
a good job at encouraging students to remain enrolled in formal education for longer, be it through university,
TAFE or registered training organisations. Yet it strikes me as strange that we insist on extending formal education
when the student is older and least dependent on their parents. We have done the right thing in adding a year
up-front and should accelerate the New South Wales Government's universal pre-K program. However, we need
to go further.
I am calling on this Parliament to increase the duration of the school day to be more accommodating of
modern employment. Local schools should become hubs for after-school activity, where the Government
guarantees that a child can remain on school campuses until 6.00 p.m. It affords parents flexibility, while at the
same time making school a place for extracurricular excellence. By engaging providers and community
organisations, we avoid overworking our tirelessly hardworking teachers but expose more children to rounded
experiences, such as coding classes, culture and language, art, dance, music and sport. I care deeply about the
academic results that our students are able to achieve and about ensuring they can compete on a global stage, but
I care even more that our education system helps us to create a new generation of Australians with the content of
character we need to be successful as a country. It is on stages and sporting fields that we build this character.
Combined, the result would be an additional year of student education, greater flexibility for parents, a
productivity and employment boost to the State, financial relief from the high cost of child care and an injection
of hope for potential but reluctant parents who, like me, struggle to rationalise how to afford, in terms of both time
and money, children, a home and equal employability between partners. Imagine what we could achieve as a
society if, while paving the paths of our children's success, we were not simultaneously complicating the paths of
their parents.
I think about this a lot in the context of my own partner, Natalie Hissey. Natalie is the most extraordinary
person I know, my confidant and a talent far greater than any of us could possibly imagine. She is smarter than
me, more articulate than me, a better debater than me and funnier than me. Nobody so selfless has ever worked
so hard and I could not have done a fraction of what I have done without her. Frankly, it should be her standing
here today. In my pursuit of this parliamentary career I ask far too much of her and it is only right and just, now
that I am here, to return that same unconditional support. Thank you, and I love you.
Together, Natalie and I represent one of the largest and fastest growing demographics in Ryde. Today there
are more millennials than any other generation living in our community. Our cohort is generally well-educated,
socially conscious and economically aspirational. Increasingly, we are new or second-generation migrants and
overwhelmingly fall victim to the ever-present housing roadblock. For some, the roadblock causes us to recalibrate
our expectations of property ownership. Rather than a freehold house, perhaps we settle for a smaller or older
apartment. Yet, for many, even that first rung on the property ladder remains out of reach.
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Before I was elected to the New South Wales Parliament I was the youngest mayor in New South Wales
and the youngest ever in the history of Ryde. I was drawn to local government because I was frustrated with what
I observed were Ryde's broken planning laws. It was my opinion that the wrong parts of Ryde had been
overdeveloped while rational and often modest opportunities for economic development were stymied. Nothing
worked and the community was losing out. As a kid some of my friends and I had been involved in a decade-long
struggle to install a skate park in Meadowbank. There was demand well before the construction boom hit, yet it
was not until after the new development was built, local families were at breaking point and the facilities were
running out of space that Ryde Council finally decided to initiate the project. By then I had been elected to the
council and no longer rode a skateboard.
After my election to council I came to appreciate that the problem was a lot more sinister. Council had
been living off the rivers of gold that flowed from voluntary planning agreements [VPAs]. VPAs incentivised
councils to ignore their own height, density and floor space controls in exchange for cash from developers. It is
akin to legalised bribery and promotes inappropriate rather than sustainable development. It is my strong view
that VPAs should be legislated out of existence and replaced with more strategic precinct-based development.
Councils should be incentivised to work in partnership with State Government to deliver housing supply with real,
tangible infrastructure benefits. Communities should be brought along on these journeys via an empowered
engagement framework. That is, residents should know up front the intensity of development required to achieve
the infrastructure outcomes desired. This model is being trialled in Europe and should be similarly adopted here.
However, supply is not the only part of the housing affordability equation. We need to be more efficient
in our allocation of housing. The 2021 census revealed that there are close to 300,000 vacant properties in New
South Wales; almost 5,000 of them were in my electorate of Ryde. What use is it to inject new supply if that
supply remains the unutilised asset of one with much, rather than a viable housing choice for one with little? It is
my view that we should be judicious about this problem and create strong disincentives for ongoing vacancies in
our property market. We should reduce the attractiveness to foreign investors of freely retaining a vacant property
while at the same time offer more generous stamp duty concessions to a broader cohort of people, including first
home buyers, people looking to downsize and those escaping family and domestic violence. We will not fix the
housing affordability crisis with these measures alone, but it is a tool on the supply side of the arsenal not subject
to development approval. This means people could benefit immediately.
My journey on this topic was ignited by my work in the local community, alongside someone who, I must
confess, evokes mixed emotions to name, not for any ominous reason, but because by virtue of their naming in
my inaugural speech it becomes very apparent that this Chamber has lost one of its greatest, Victor Dominello—
a true reformer in every sense of the word. I am reminded constantly of the enormous shoes that I have been left
to fill. Through your many portfolios you succeeded, most notably, in driving the digital transformation of the
State and being the first Minister to successfully initiate reforms to gambling that will save lives and livelihoods.
We in this Chamber owe it to you to continue and build upon that legacy. Locally in Ryde, you leave behind a
community that is strong, growing and poised to take advantage of an enormous investment pipeline laid during
your tenure in Parliament.
It was a privilege to work alongside you as a community member, a councillor, a mayor, and it is the
privilege of a lifetime to pick up where you left off in this place—the first time in close to 75 years that a retiring
member for Ryde has been immediately succeeded by someone of the same party. My ascension to this place was
built on a chance encounter with Victor. As a high school student I was inexplicably offered a work experience
opportunity. I am forever grateful for that because he had no reason to take that chance on me. I offered nothing—
no expertise, no networks, I could not even vote. The rest is history and that encounter grew into a strong working
partnership that crescendoed in this very moment, a product of his mentorship and support for well over a decade.
For all the values he imparted of integrity, hard work and passion for community, it was his zeal for reform
that inspired me most, in particular his technology-driven solution to government support through Service NSW
vouchers. Through the vouchers, government pioneered the rollout of targeted, compassionate and economically
sensible schemes that were instrumental in steering the State through COVID-19. Given those vouchers allowed
us to quarantine, track and review outcomes according to real data and evidence, I do not know why we would
not more aggressively roll them out in areas of high social need.
Before I was elected, I worked in the disability sector. My role was all about advocacy, working with
government and stakeholders to try to achieve real and long-term outcomes. So much of what I heard was that
government, when it did get involved, often got in the way with complex or inconsistent support, and that policies
lacked elegance and were inaccessible and often irregular. When funded properly, vouchers are none of those
things. While much of the disability system is managed at a Federal level, it is within our remit to strategically
support many of the preventative health and medical measures needed to uplift the wellbeing of our citizens and
save our State financially in the long run.
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I give members an example. Imagine a means-tested scheme that gave New South Wales citizens a voucher
towards an annual dental check-up and clean. Households, especially those with children, would save a small
fortune and more people, regardless of circumstance, would be a step closer to achieving a basic standard of dental
care. Prevention is better than cure, and through such a simple initiative we could reduce the incidence of many
major and often cost-prohibitive dental issues. The consequences would be profound, not only for those receiving
help in the present but also for those who will live healthier lives well into the future. Is that not what government
should be all about?
I think this question is one of the more concerning parts of modern society. The role of government and its
relevance to the lives of everyday people is often not clear. I believe we have a moral obligation in this place to
restore faith where it has been lost and create faith where it has never been. We can do that by being clear and
honest with our communities about what we believe. It is an erroneous criticism, but we as politicians are too
often criticised for standing for nothing. So I thought I would share a bit about what I stand for to do my little bit
to establish that faith. I believe in giving breaks to small and family businesses, that for too long have struggled
with high taxes and overregulation, and in protecting gig workers as we protect our employees. I believe in taking
bold steps to achieve greater reconciliation with our First Nations people, and in doing more for our environment
and properly investing in the rise of new clean industries. I believe we cannot do enough for mental health and
want us to go further to address the scourge of problem gambling and organised crime.
All combined, I believe that we need to put people at the centre of government policy and to seek to make
their lives better, with integrity, transparency and good governance as its foundation. That is why I am a Liberal.
Because, notwithstanding our imperfections, I believe Liberal values most closely align both in practice and in
theory with these outcomes. They were the values that were first espoused to me by two of my earlier political
contacts and friends: James Wallace and Michael Evangelidis. They represent our party at its best. They are smart,
strategic minds who lit a progressive Liberal flame in me many years ago. I thank them for being here today and
acknowledge that much of my success has been a product of their advocacy. Through many milestones, they have
been there to throw me off the right cliffs and occasionally pull me back. Together, we built a local Liberal family
that now espouses these values right throughout Ryde.
The entire Ryde council Liberal team is here today led by my successor as mayor, Sarkis Yedelian: the
deputy mayor, Shweta Deshpande, the first in Ryde's history of South Asian descent; councillor Trenton Brown,
someone of great courage and integrity, who ran alongside me in 2017; and my close friends councillors Daniel
Han and Sophie Lara-Watson, elected in 2021, and Justin Li, elected in an historic by-election in 2022. It is the
most diverse team in the history of Ryde, in terms of age, gender, culture or profession. It stands as the benchmark
to be beaten, and I hope that someday it will. These councillors are a true embodiment of the Ryde community:
diverse, compassionate, enterprising and yet in no way pretentious.
Many members speak in this place about the natural marvels of their electorates. I would rather reflect
upon the people. They are family to me and so to represent them is deeply personal. There are few words that can
express my gratitude to the community for entrusting me to be their representative, except to say thank you and
that I will not take you for granted. Families at their best are all about love and, in case you had not worked it out
from the T-shirt and now the pin, I really do love Ryde. It gave me everything but, most importantly, it armed me
with a confident optimism for the future. I will never be able to quantify its value but I know that it has shaped so
much of my approach to life.
When families tell us as children that we will thank them one day, I am guessing most of us scoff
dismissively, irrationally offended by the notion that our accomplishments could be anything more than a product
of our own doing. In saying what I am about to say all these years later from the dispatch box of Australia's oldest
Parliament, I suspect I have proven my family right. Thank you for everything you have done to get me to this
point. While you never did it out of anything other than love, I promise that when I leave this place more children
will hopefully grow up believing as I did that they too can be whatever they want to be.
Members and officers of the House stood and applauded.
The SPEAKER: I thank the member for Ryde for his inaugural speech. I imagine we would all agree that
it was a very fine speech. I am sure it will be reflected on into the future. I thank everybody in the gallery for their
attendance.
The SPEAKER: I acknowledge a number of special guests. I welcome to the Speaker's gallery a guest of
the Minister for Local Government, the Hon. John Ajaka, former President of the Legislative Council. I also
welcome Michael Photios, a former Minister in the New South Wales Parliament. I warmly welcome those seated
in the public gallery who are here to watch the inaugural speech of the member for Holsworthy. Some are members
of the community who have been supporting her for many years, but I assume that most are very close friends and
family. I warmly welcome them all. I acknowledge the former member for Camden, my friend Chris Patterson.
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I welcome former Premier Morris Iemma. I cannot see Morris, but he may be here. I also recognise Louise
Waterhouse, Honorary Consul-General of Tonga. I acknowledge Father Anthony Morgan of the St George
& Prince Theodore Church in Liverpool; Sheikh Adam Awada; Samier Dandan of the Lebanese Muslim
Association; and Chris Stone, the New South Wales Liberal Party State director. I welcome each and every one
of them. I call the member for Holsworthy to make her inaugural speech.
Mrs TINA AYYAD (Holsworthy) (13:09): I begin in the name of God, the Most Gracious and Most
Merciful. Peace and blessings be upon you and on all in this place. I acknowledge the traditional custodians of the
land and pay my respects to Elders past, present and emerging. Congratulations to you, Mr Speaker, on your
elevation. I wish you success in your term. It is instilled in me that I should always start off by giving thanks to
my creator and praising him. All praise is due to God, Lord of the Worlds, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful,
the Master of the Day of Judgement. You alone do we worship, and of you alone do we seek help. Lord, lead us
to the right path, the path of those upon whom you have bestowed your bounties, and not the path of those who
have gone astray. Amen.
I also give thanks to the team who dedicated countless hours of work and sacrifice to make this happen.
Words cannot express the gratitude I have for your efforts. Although I stand here as an individual, this is not my
win alone; it is your win, our win and a win for all who believe in a fair go. I give a special shout-out to my
campaign manager, Matthew Harte; and the core campaign team, Tony Hadchiti, Fiona Macnaught and
Leila-Marie Abdallah. Thank you for motivating me every day, putting up with me and feeding me. To all who
volunteered and manned booths on election day, I have not forgotten you. You are appreciated.
To my family and my in-laws, thank you for your endless support. To my darling mother, I am forever
indebted to you. Thank you for instilling faith, sincerity and hope in my brothers and I. Thank you for loving us
unconditionally when we were good, when we were bad and when we were everything in between. I know at
times we were the cause of much worry. To my husband, Mayor Ned Mannoun, thank you for all the sacrifices
you have made for me and for our children. Most of all, thank you for serving our community. I know how hard
you work. Although I get cranky when you take phone calls at 11.30 at night about roads, rubbish and rates,
I know it is for the betterment of our community and it is testament to your dedication.
To my children—Solomon, Jacob and Eden-Rose—thank you for your patience throughout the campaign.
You are the delights of my life and drive me to be the best person I can be every day. Sol and Kobe, you are the
best campaigners I could ever ask for. Thanks for bringing it home at school and canvassing the parents' and
teachers' votes every chance you got. My boys are always flying the Liberal flag; they definitely take after their
parents. Remember to always give back to the nation that has given us so much. I hope that I have made you
proud.
To the people of Holsworthy, thank you for a fair go, for your belief in me, for your well wishes and
support, for your time, for sharing your stories with me and for your hope for a better Holsworthy. I will not let
you down. My door is always open, and it is my honour to represent and serve you in this place. Holsworthy is a
special part of Sydney. The electorate of Holsworthy is a melting pot of rich culture and diversity. From the Shire
to Liverpool, it is bustling with a warm and welcoming community—jewels from all walks of life.
Holsworthy is best known as the home of the army barracks, a 22,000-hectare facility established in the
1880s that has continued to operate since the Great War. The Australian men and women who have served and
trained at the barracks have once called Holsworthy their temporary home. I thank the Defence Force personnel
and their families who have sacrificed so much for our security, freedom, and way of life. To the east we have
Australia's only nuclear reactor, at the Australian Nuclear Science and Technology Organisation facility in Lucas
Heights—a game changer in the area of medicine, in particular cancer treatments. It supplies 80 per cent of
Australia's radioisotopes and has been in operation for over 60 years. Electricity costs are a major factor
contributing to the cost-of-living increases; hence small-scale nuclear reactors must form part of our energy future
as we transition to cleaner and cheaper energy. Lucas Heights is an example of the ability to operate nuclear
reactors which are safe for surrounding communities.
Our crown jewel, the Georges River, stretches from the Shire to Liverpool, with over 25 kilometres of river
forming the border of the electorate. It has served as a place of customs, traditions and rituals for many
communities over time. It is one of Sydney's most beautiful rivers, with so much potential, and has a major role
to play in providing great amenity to those who call south-west Sydney home, and not just the lucky ones who get
to live near it. It has plenty of untapped potential and should be the playground of the south-west. It currently
lacks critical infrastructure that could transform the way we live and would provide families and youth a safe and
enjoyable place for recreation. The Georges River has many First Nations stories to share. It was used as an
important source of food and a place for trade and transport. The Darug and Dharawal nations shared the river.
The two tribes would meet where Collingwood House, Australia's fourth-oldest house, stands today. On any given
day the jet skis race across the river, along with little speedboats and the grander type.
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Today the Georges River is also used for baptisms. The Mandaean community fled persecution in their
homelands and found hope in Sydney. Holsworthy is home to their primary place of worship. Mandaeans follow
John the Baptist—peace be upon him—and must do baptisms in living water. Mandaean baptisms take place more
than once in a lifetime. The young, the old, the healthy and the sick take part. The banks of the Georges River are
also home to Satyam Ghat, a sacred place of worship where rituals take place. It is used by those from across the
electorate and beyond who are of Sikh, Hindu and Buddhist faiths. The Mandaeans, Sikhs, Hindus and Buddhists
I have mentioned, along with many others, came to Australia with hope.
I would now like to share with you another story of hope—a common story throughout the electorate of
Holsworthy and beyond. I am the granddaughter of Moses, the restaurateur from Beirut, a dedicated widowed
father who arrived in Sydney in 1974 in hope for a better life, a life of peace and stability. Soon after my maternal
grandfather, Moses, arrived in Sydney, the civil war began to ravage Lebanon. It was April 1975. Brother fought
against brother, to no avail. It was a time of sniper attacks, horror, hardships and pain. The civil war had so many
external influences pressing on. It was multifaceted in its reasoning, yet still unjustified. My father, Ali, was
fortunate enough to flee the civil war and spend some years floating around Europe working odd jobs. Then in
1980 my father landed in Sydney—a bittersweet moment, of hope for a new life and of despair for the sons and
daughters of the cedars.
Today those sons and daughters still bear the scars of the civil war. They share stories of hope and pain, of
life and death. All across the world, including in Sydney, their sons and daughters work hand in hand, side by
side, united as patriots of the countries they now call home. My mother did not have to live through the pain of
seeing the war before her eyes. She arrived in Sydney as a teenager—although, like her, those in the diaspora
heard the stories of the family and friends they had left behind. For my mother, it was close to home. Her older
sister was the victim of a sniper attack. The sniper's bullet pierced her thigh and pelvis where it then exploded.
She was 18 years old. On arrival to hospital all assumed she would be refused treatment due to her Islamic faith.
Hope won that day when a group of young men waiting to hear news of their loved ones at the hospital lobbied
the doctors in charge to give this daughter a second chance. She was then under the care of a Lebanese Maronite
surgeon by the name of Edward Chalouhi. He reassured her not to be afraid. Then he saved her life. Today she
remembers him often and wishes him well. She is in the gallery today.
This day was proof that the sons and daughters of the cedars have not decayed due to adversity; rather,
their hopes and spirit of unity have become stronger. The civil war finally came to an end 15 years later in 1990.
I am the product of the hope that brought my grandfather and my father here. It is an honour to stand before you
today as the new Liberal member for Holsworthy and, from existing records, the first female Muslim member in
this place and the first Liberal Muslim member of any Parliament across this great country. This achievement is
testament to the success of our multicultural and multi-faith society. I grew up in south Sydney in a conservative
family. As children, my brothers and I spent endless hours playing the Super Nintendo, PlayStation, watching
The Karate Kid and, of course, playing backyard cricket.
We come from a large extended family. Weekends were never dull. My grandfather always had time to
cook up a meal for us to share over breakfast or lunch in his humble family home in Rockdale. I will never forget
the aroma of fresh homemade Lebanese bread and Lebanese tea brewing on the stove. My older brothers went on
to become successful tradesmen, who now both own and run small businesses. I was the first in my immediate
family to graduate from university. I went on to teach English as a second language and provided important lessons
in language and literacy. I worked with many students from diverse backgrounds. It was very rewarding and
second nature to me. Growing up in south-west Sydney meant I was immersed in multiculturalism and diversity
every day.
My life in public office began in 2016 when I was first elected as a City of Liverpool councillor. I was then
elected as deputy mayor and served in this role between 2017 and 2018. It was an exciting challenge and made
me realise how rewarding public service can be. In my faith, I honour and worship God, the creator of the universe.
I believe in the uniqueness of God and his ultimate power and glory. I believe in all his revelations and in the
angel of revelation, Gabriel. The Quran provides me with a moral code on how I should live and is a source of
guidance. I believe in all of God's prophets, including Adam, the chosen of God; Noah, the prophet of God;
Abraham, the friend of God; Moses, the one who spoke to God; Jesus the Messiah, the spirit of God; and
Muhammad, the seal of the prophets, the beloved of God. Peace be upon them all. Regardless of our respective
faiths, there is more that unites us than divides. We are brothers and sisters in humanity, and we in this House
should work in unity to deliver for our communities.
Before I continue I must mention a woman by the name of Lady Zainab. She is the sister of Imam Hussain.
She is the granddaughter of the Prophet Muhammad. Peace be upon him. She has been a source of inspiration for
me and for many. She inspires us to show up, stand up and speak up. She offers enduring lessons which have
lasted centuries and remain relevant to humanity today. She witnessed the battle of Karbala where she lost her
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family, including her brother. Despite being oppressed, she was a voice for truth and justice. This woman was so
powerful that her family's story left her lips and reached many, including Nelson Mandela. He said:
I have spent more than 20 years in prison, then on one night I decided to surrender by signing all the terms and conditions of the
government. I then thought of Imam Hussain and the Karbala movement and Imam Hussain gave me strength to stand for the right
of liberation and I did.
Lady Zainab was formidable in her strength, despite adversity—something I was inspired by during the most
difficult times in my life.
In 2011, I became a mother. I spent many days and nights by my child's bedside at Liverpool Hospital and
then at Westmead Children's Hospital. They were pressing times. Hope and faith got us through. I prayed for the
children, for myself, for my family and friends. I also prayed for the unsung heroes saving lives every day. How
great they are. I recalled the words of the seal of the prophets, Muhammad, peace be upon him: That when you
save one life, it is as though you have saved all of humanity. Sometimes it is times like these that define us. They
make us look deep into our soul and reassess life, ultimately changing our perspectives. Those moments in the
corridor of Westmead Children's Hospital defined me. I remember an artwork displayed in one of the corridors.
It was an image of a young innocent child, and it read, "I will live in hope."
I then knew I was living in hope—a very powerful emotion that rocks the core of the human spirit and
somehow makes it move forward. Maybe it was the same emotion of my grandfather, of my father, of my aunt
and the surgeon, Edward Chalouhi. I was reminded of Lady Zainab's strength in adversity because, without
strength, there is no hope. I enter this place guided by faith, strength and hope for a better tomorrow.
My family has been touched by organ donation. In Australia we have low rates of organ donation
registration. Those who are potential donors, even though registered, are small in number. Those who become
donors can save up to seven lives and help heal so many more through tissue donation. Currently 1,800 Australians
are waitlisted for a transplant. This includes adults and children. There are an additional 14,000 Australians on
dialysis waiting for a kidney—again, this includes adults and children. Most Australians support organ donation
although only 36 per cent are registered to be donors. It is my hope that in this place we can encourage the great
Australian spirit of a fair go and mateship through raising awareness of organ donation and the impact it has on
individuals, families and the health system. A simple change like the opt-out system would give hope to so many
who are in need of an organ.
I am forever indebted to the New South Wales healthcare system and would like to applaud the former
Government for its record investment in health, including $790 million in funding to upgrade Liverpool Hospital
and $619 million to expand and upgrade The Children's Hospital at Westmead. This is an investment that will
make a difference in the lives of people throughout Sydney and New South Wales in their times of deepest need,
providing hope, support and world-class medical treatment.
Along the campaign trail I met so many people who shared their defining moments with me. They all had
one thing in common: hope for a better quality of life for all Australians. They had great hope for our country, for
our State and for the electorate. Time is our most precious commodity and our most limited asset. People in the
electorate of Holsworthy are spending two to three hours a day travelling to and from work. This is impacting on
our work-life balance—precious time that should be spent with our families and on recreational activities which
are paramount to our mental and physical wellbeing. On average, 18,000 people move to south-west Sydney per
year, most of whom will drive or catch the train through the electorate. This equates to an average of 6,000 new
cars on our roads every year. If we do not act immediately then the people of Holsworthy and surrounds will be
condemned to an even worse work-life balance.
Through proper planning and action this can be changed. We have seen the success of Parramatta over the
last 10 years, transforming from a suburban centre to a bustling city. This is what I envisage for Holsworthy and
surrounds. For south-west Sydney to reach its maximum potential, we need world-class public transport options:
a metro from Bankstown to Glenfield via Liverpool and beyond. This will take pressure off our roads, increase
mobility and boost economic activity. Incentives should be provided for corporate Australia to move jobs away
from the Sydney CBD and into city centres around Western Sydney. This can be achieved by providing payroll
tax exemptions for companies and organisations that create jobs in the west, namely throughout Liverpool,
Campbelltown and Penrith. These job providers will act as anchors for further investment across the south-west,
offering high skilled and high paying jobs in our backyard.
Finally, it is important that we in this place invest in our future: our children. Depression and anxiety in
youth across the State is on the rise. As responsible servants to our communities, we must support strategies and
skills to strengthen mental fortitude and resilience. As we progress into the digital age and experience rapid
changes in technology, it is crucial to equip our children with skills to protect their mental wellbeing. Although
social media connects us, it has inadvertently created an environment that can exacerbate mental health issues.
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The pressure to fit in and gain validation through likes and comments—the relentless comparisons to others'
lives—affects our perceptions of belonging and acceptance of who we are, particularly when perceptions are not
always reality in cyberspace. The objective of such initiatives should be to instil perseverance, adaptability and
acceptance of one's identity and each other's identities so that we all can belong.
Amenity is key to great living, wherever you are. The electorate of Holsworthy has so much potential.
During my time here it is my hope to see this potential come to fruition. I pledge to serve the Forgotten People
who inspired Sir Robert Menzies, and all people across the electorate. I value the importance of family as the
primary institution for fostering the values on which a cohesive society is built. I will strive to give dignity to
those who cannot provide for themselves. I will respect the basic freedoms of thought, worship, association and
choice, since that is what we as Liberals do: we provide hope for the forgotten people. I thank the members and
guests for their courtesies.
Members and officers of the House stood and applauded.
The SPEAKER: I thank the member for Holsworthy for delivering her inaugural speech. I once again
acknowledge her friends and family in the gallery. I am sure it has been a wonderful occasion hearing the member
make her inaugural speech in the oldest Parliament in Australia. It is a very historic moment.
I shall now leave the chair. The House will resume at 2.30 p.m.
Bills
LAW ENFORCEMENT (POWERS AND RESPONSIBILITIES) AMENDMENT (DIGITAL
EVIDENCE ACCESS ORDERS) BILL 2023
Second Reading Debate
Debate resumed from an earlier hour.
Mrs SALLY QUINNELL (Camden) (14:31): The Law Enforcement (Powers and Responsibilities)
Amendment (Digital Evidence Access Orders) Bill 2023 amends the Law Enforcement (Powers and
Responsibilities) Act 2002, known as LEPRA, to enable digital evidence access orders to be sought by officers of
the Independent Commission Against Corruption in connection with warrants issued under the Independent
Commission Against Corruption Act 1988. The amendments reflect the need to update the ICAC's powers in the
contemporary investigative context. They particularly enable officers of ICAC to compel a person under a search
warrant to open their phone or computer—a power that Government members believe is necessary to conduct
modern investigations.
Government members undeniably believe that the ICAC is a key institution necessary for the maintenance
of public trust. Corruption has a corrosive impact on our institutions and has no place in society, particularly in
the highest places of power and among those with the greatest responsibility. In recent New South Wales history,
we have witnessed the important role that the ICAC has played in uncovering serious breaches of public trust by
politicians and public servants in local government and other areas. Our State is in a much better position as a
result of its investigations uncovering wrongdoing. These amendments are the direct result of a request to the
Government from the Chief Commissioner of the ICAC and are intended to ensure that ICAC's powers remain fit
for purpose in the contemporary context. The intention of the scheme is to overcome the modern realities of
technology, in particular the challenge of locked devices.
These challenges are not unique to New South Wales. Other States in Australia have granted powers similar
to digital evidence access orders to comparable integrity agencies. In Queensland, under section 88A of the Crime
and Corruption Act 2001, an officer of the Queensland Crime and Corruption Commission may be granted an
authorisation as part of a search warrant that allows them to provide access information in relation to a digital
device found on the relevant premises. Section 88B provides for a similar order to be sought where a digital device
has been seized under the primary search warrant. Under section 88C, a person is not excused from complying
with such a direction on the grounds that doing so would tend to incriminate the person. Under section 205A of
the Queensland Criminal Code, it is a criminal offence to fail to comply with a direction given under such an order
without a reasonable excuse. The offence carries a maximum penalty of five years' imprisonment.
In the Northern Territory, under section 71 (1) (g) (vi) of the Independent Commissioner Against
Corruption Act 2017, when an officer of the Northern Territory Independent Commissioner Against Corruption
is lawfully on premises, the officer may require a person on the premises to give them any translation, code,
password or other information necessary to gain access to or interpret and understand anything located or obtained
in the course of exercising their investigative powers. Under section 71 (2), it is a criminal offence for a person to
fail to comply with such a requirement. The offence carries a maximum penalty of 100 penalty units—that is
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currently $16,200, noting that in the Northern Territory penalty unit amounts are indexed each financial year so
are subject to change.
I turn to the particulars of the bill. The bill will extend the digital evidence access order scheme to include
ICAC officers executing search warrants under the ICAC Act. It amends two definitions. "Eligible applicant" in
section 46 of LEPRA will also include ICAC officers, and "search warrant" in section 76AA of LEPRA will
include ICAC Act search warrants. The bill does not substantively amend any other provisions relating to the
digital evidence access order scheme. Existing processes and safeguards will continue to apply, and two
consequential amendments are made for this purpose.
For ICAC officers, digital evidence access orders will only be able to be issued by an authorised officer—
namely, a magistrate or a registrar of the Local Court. These officers are also already authorised to issue search
warrants under the ICAC Act. Under the Act, the commissioner of the ICAC may also issue search warrants, but
they will not be authorised to issue digital evidence access orders. This ensures that such orders are determined
by independent third parties. These amendments reflect the need to update the ICAC's powers in the modern age.
Members on this side of the House recognise the key role that a strong ICAC that has powers that are fit for
purpose should play in maintaining integrity across this State. The bill seeks to support the ICAC in doing just
that. It is for these reasons that I commend the bill to the House.
Mr MICHAEL DALEY (Maroubra—Attorney General) (14:37): In reply: I thank all members who
have contributed to this debate, specifically the member for Wahroonga, my Parliamentary Secretary the member
for Prospect, the member for Ballina, the member for Mount Druitt and the member for Camden. I thank members
for their support of the bill and briefly address some matters raised during debate. I note that the member for
Wahroonga raised concerns specifically related to the exercise of search warrants by the Independent Commission
Against Corruption. I also note that he referred to the Inspector of the ICAC, who has a statutory function to
oversee the ICAC. I stress that these bodies are independent and that the legislative frameworks that underpin
them are robust. The bill does not amend any of that legislation. The ICAC and the inspector are also subject to
parliamentary oversight through the joint Committee on the Independent Commission Against Corruption,
required to be established under part 7 of the Independent Commission Against Corruption Act 1988.
I have also heard the concerns raised by the member for Ballina about the digital evidence access order
scheme itself. The scheme is subject to a statutory review under section 237A of the Law Enforcement (Powers
and Responsibilities) Act 2002. It requires the Minister to review whether the policy objectives of the provisions
remain valid and whether the terms of the provisions remain appropriate for securing those objectives. The
amendments effected by the bill will also be considered as part of this review, and it will provide an opportunity
to consider how they have been implemented operationally by all relevant agencies. The review must be
commenced as soon as practicable two years after commencement, with a report tabled within a further 12 months.
That means that the review will occur after 1 February 2025 and the report is to be tabled before 1 February 2026.
In conclusion, this bill has been brought forward after hearing directly from the Chief Commissioner of
the ICAC, who advised that these powers are critical to ensure that ICAC search warrants, where granted, are not
unduly frustrated by locked digital devices. The work of the ICAC is critical. We all know that; we have all said
that many times in this place. The Government takes corruption and misconduct by public officials incredibly
seriously. This kind of conduct erodes the trust that the public places in us and in the public sector to act honestly,
in good faith and in the interests of the public. The bill ensures that the ICAC has the powers and investigative
tools it needs to respond to the operational realities of modern investigations. I commend the bill to the House.
TEMPORARY SPEAKER (Mr Alex Greenwich): The question is that this bill be now read a second
time.
Motion agreed to.
Third Reading
Mr MICHAEL DALEY: I move:
That this bill be now read a third time.
Motion agreed to.
Motions
DAPTO RESIDENTS MOTORWAY ACCESS
Debate resumed from 25 May 2023.
Ms ANNA WATSON (Shellharbour) (14:41): It is great to have the member for Kiama back in the
Chamber for the resumption of this debate. I would not want him to miss out on any more feedback from my
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community on his little pet project, the Albion Park Rail bypass, which he decoupled to suit his own agenda. I will
talk a bit more about that later. The member for Kiama had a rough day last Thursday. Prior to getting kicked out
of the Chamber during the first part of this speech, he missed his chance to put forward amendments on the
anti-pork-barrelling legislation. That is quite ironic because, as we know, those opposite are into pork-barrelling,
including the member for Kiama. He is a pork-barreller from a long way back. He just loves it. He cannot get
enough it. His record speaks for itself.
I note with interest that just prior to the March 2023 election, the member for Kiama changed his tune in
relation to the Yallah Interchange. He apparently now supports it. He did not support it, but now he does. He
supports it in the electorate, but he does not support it in the Parliament of New South Wales. He is now happy to
throw the long-suffering residents of Dapto a few little cookie crumbs. I hope those crumbs are well and truly
worth it. I hope they are from a nice sandwich cookie or an Oreo or something like that. In any case, I welcome
the change of heart from the member for Kiama. I welcome his kind words in his recent media release, where he
congratulated me on my new position as a Parliamentary Secretary.
Mr Gareth Ward: I did.
Ms ANNA WATSON: Yes, that was very nice. It was a nice change—
TEMPORARY SPEAKER (Mr Alex Greenwich): Order! The member for Shellharbour and the
member for Kiama do not need to address each other directly.
Ms ANNA WATSON: I'm not.
TEMPORARY SPEAKER (Mr Alex Greenwich): The member for Kiama will come to order. The
member for Shellharbour will direct her comments through the chair. She does not need to engage with the
member for Kiama directly.
Ms ANNA WATSON: It was a nice change from November last year, when he stated that I was "a jealous
little brat with a face to match". He then referred to me as a pet dog—
Mr Gareth Ward: Point of order—
TEMPORARY SPEAKER (Mr Alex Greenwich): The member for Kiama has risen on a point of order.
Mr Gareth Ward: I raise a point of privilege, actually.
Ms ANNA WATSON: Can you stop the clock, please?
TEMPORARY SPEAKER (Mr Alex Greenwich): The Clerk will stop the clock.
Mr Gareth Ward: These matters were referred to the Independent Complaints Officer. The member for
Shellharbour knows she is not meant to address those matters in public, as she has just done. This is totally
irrelevant to the debate. She should be called to order and brought back to the motion.
TEMPORARY SPEAKER (Mr Alex Greenwich): The member for Shellharbour is aware of what her
motion is about. I ask that she ensures that her commentary is in the leave of that.
Ms ANNA WATSON: It is directly related. The member for Kiama called me a "jealous little brat with
a face to match"—
Mr Gareth Ward: Point of order—
Ms ANNA WATSON: —and referred to me as his pet dog—
TEMPORARY SPEAKER (Mr Alex Greenwich): Order! The member for Shellharbour will resume
her seat. The Clerk will stop the clock.
Mr Gareth Ward: I think we are talking about a roads project, but the member for Shellharbour has now
mentioned me more than she has mentioned the word "Dapto". Perhaps she can be brought back to the leave of
the motion.
Ms Lynda Voltz: To the point of order: That is the second time the member for Kiama has got up and
stopped the debate on exactly the same point. He has engaged in debate, instead of taking a point of order. He
constantly interrupts. I ask that he be called to order for those of us who have to sit here and listen to him constantly
interrupt the debate.
TEMPORARY SPEAKER (Mr Alex Greenwich): I thank the member for Auburn. I have called the
member for Kiama to order. I note that the member for Shellharbour has limited time left. I am sure the member
will use that time to address the motion and will be able to do so without interruption.
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Ms ANNA WATSON: Thank you. That would be helpful. The reason that I called this out is that the
former Government put on the record its rampant pork-barrelling. The personal attacks on me, which is the MO
of the member for Kiama, relate directly to that. Those opposite do not like it when I call them out for
pork-barrelling. They do not like it when we ask for a fair go for our communities. If the member for Kiama thinks
for five minutes that I am not going to get up here and represent my community, do the best for them and call out
his blatant pork-barrelling over the past 12 years, then he is sadly mistaken. Buckle up. I am just getting started
on him. We are sick to death in the Shellharbour of hearing all of the reasons why the member for Kiama decoupled
the money from the Albion Park Rail bypass, took that money out and sent it down south.
Mr DUGALD SAUNDERS (Dubbo) (14:45): I start by acknowledging that we are seeing a discussion
around everything that is not relevant to what we should be talking about here, which is a piece of infrastructure
that was put together and funded by the former Government. I am pretty familiar with this piece of road. It is a
great piece of road. We are no longer in government. You are in government. If you want to make amendments
and bring in different aspects to more roads, do it. It is worth noting that the significant investment that was made
in not just this road but all roads across New South Wales was because of us.
Ms Anna Watson: How much did it cost?
Mr DUGALD SAUNDERS: The former Government had a $19 billion pipeline of roads and rail.
TEMPORARY SPEAKER (Mr Alex Greenwich): Order! The member for Shellharbour knows the
importance of directing comments through the chair and not talking across the Chamber. The member for Dubbo
also will direct his comments through the chair.
Mr DUGALD SAUNDERS: "Do as I say, not as I do." It was a $630 million upgrade for the Albion Park
Rail bypass.
Ms Anna Watson: There you go. The member for Kiama just told you.
Mr DUGALD SAUNDERS: No, I have it written down, but thanks for asking. I am very familiar with
the piece of road. I have travelled on it quite a few times. My mum lived in Kiama Downs, so I am pretty familiar
with the area. Rather than sledging the Coalition over the fact that there is a $630 million piece of infrastructure,
why would the member for Shellharbour not now work to what she wants to do? Guess who has the reins?
Allegedly, it is those opposite. Why do we not see those opposite work within their own means and put some
money on the table for these projects? Between 2011 and 2019, the former Government invested $2.9 billion in
upgrades to the Princes Highway. That was on top of the Pacific Highway duplication and the reservation of
$2.5 billion to improve the Great Western Highway, which is a vital east-west link through the Blue Mountains.
There is snickering on the other side of the Chamber. We care about infrastructure and roads. You are only worried
about one little part—
Ms Anna Watson: No, you care about pork-barrelling.
Mr DUGALD SAUNDERS: It has got nothing to do with pork-barrelling. How is $630 million—
TEMPORARY SPEAKER (Mr Alex Greenwich): Order! The member for Shellharbour will come to
order. I am sure she wishes to remain in the Chamber during the debate on her motion. The member for Dubbo
will direct commentary through the chair and not at the member for Shellharbour. The member for Kiama will
also come to order.
Mr DUGALD SAUNDERS: The former Government actually built things. If the current Government
has a problem, it should actually build things as well. As part of the broader Princes Highway upgrade, the
$630 million Albion Park Rail bypass opened in 2021. As I said, I have used that road many times. It makes an
incredible difference. These kinds of projects are key to enhancing road safety, reducing travel times and
improving regional connectivity. That is what we care about. The new bypass absolutely mitigates traffic
congestion. It makes travelling easier and more efficient for motorists. It supports local businesses and regional
economic development and improves freight efficiency. It contributes to the overall betterment of the environment
by leading to less vehicle emissions. The bypass is a significant step forward to ensuring sustainable and efficient
transportation in New South Wales. The extension of the M1 Princes Motorway between Yallah and Oak Flats to
the Albion Park bypass completed the missing link between Sydney and Nowra.
Some of the benefits include a saving of up to 30 per cent in travel time, improvements to freight, reduced
crash risk, better and more reliable trips, improved connectivity and increased road capacity. Dapto,
Haywards Bay and Yallah residents travelling south do not travel on the bypass but continue to use the
Princes Highway. Funnily enough, diverting traffic to different roads makes travelling better for everyone.
Haywards Bay and Yallah residents travelling north continue to use the existing Princes Highway, where they can
merge with bypass traffic north of the Dapto exit ramp. Construction of a northern interchange is subject to future
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funding and traffic demand and driven by changes to land use. The point is that now the Labor Government has
the opportunity to do more of that work I suggest the member for Shellharbour does it. I noted the concerns she
raised—
Ms Anna Watson: I don't take advice.
Mr DUGALD SAUNDERS: Of course the member does not take advice. I note the concerns raised by
the member for Shellharbour around access to the bypass for Dapto and West Dapto residents. If the member
asked her own Government about the issue, she would know that Transport for NSW carried out extensive traffic
modelling, including for projected growth around the planned residential developments at Yallah and West Dapto.
That modelling indicated that the northern interchange will not be required until there is a substantial increase in
traffic.
Unfortunately, as we have seen consistently in this House, the motion is another rather poor attempt at
blame shifting when the reality is that the member is now in government. As local members, our job is to fight
for our communities. But, instead of seeking a ministerial meeting with one of her colleagues, she has come here
and tried to blame the former Government for doing a job worth $630 million. I suggest that she take up the
opportunity to speak with her colleague the Minister for Regional Transport and Roads, outline some of the things
she wants to see and—
Mr Gareth Ward: The member for Shellharbour is the Parliamentary Secretary.
Mr DUGALD SAUNDERS: One might think that, as the Parliamentary Secretary, she would get a
meeting—perhaps. We will wait and see. What we have seen here is a member choosing an easy route and taking
pot shots at the former Government. We delivered $630 million in funding for the Albion Park bypass, which is
$630 million more than this Government has contributed to anything. I look forward to seeing what processes can
be brought forward and what the Labor Government will do to help continue those traffic studies and work with
Transport for NSW and local members to see what will work best. I encourage the member for Shellharbour to
do her part in that.
Ms LIZA BUTLER (South Coast) (14:55): I know the area of Dapto, Yallah and Albion Park very well.
I lived in the area for over 20 years. When I moved south 20-plus years ago, the people of Dapto and West Dapto
were complaining back then that they had little or no access to the M1 Motorway. If the previous Government
had listened to the community over the past 12 years, it would have known that the community was absolutely
desperate to have ramps to allow access to the M1 Motorway. Guess what happened next? The previous
Government approved further subdivisions in West Dapto and Haywards Bay without including them in any future
roads planning. This decision left new and growing areas in Dapto and Haywards Bay high and dry, and they still
have no access to the motorway in either direction. The previous Government cancelled the Yallah interchange,
which would have allowed residents and visitors from Dapto and Haywards Bay onto the Albion Park bypass. It
was a short-sighted decision by the previous Government, which forgot about people.
The Illawarra and South Coast regions are deeply interconnected. While the Albion Park bypass is not in
my electorate, so many of my constituents frequently travel to Albion Park, Dapto and Shellharbour for work,
health and family visits. We do not exist in a bubble. We are connected communities, and the previous
Government failed our communities up and down the South Coast. I am proud to be a member of a government
that is putting people first. I reassure the people of my electorate that when we build road infrastructure we will
plan it first so we do not have the issue the good people of the Shellharbour and Kiama electorates are facing now.
The Minns Government has committed to getting the Nowra bypass started, after 12 years of inaction by the
previous Government. Our Government will also invest in the East Nowra sub-arterial road project, which will
take pressure off the busy Princes Highway through Nowra and connect the communities of Greenwell Point,
Culburra, Orient Point, Currarong and Callala. This project, coupled with the Nowra bypass, will be a game
changer for constituents of the South Coast.
The Jervis Bay Road intersection upgrade project is a prime example of how short sighted the previous
Government was. The intersection into Jervis Bay from the Princes Highway is extremely dangerous, and during
holidays is commonly backed up for kilometres. In opposition the Labor team saw how critical the situation was,
and the member for Swansea joined with the local communities to campaign and petition the previous
Government. My predecessor at the time said all that was needed was a roundabout, but the community and the
Labor Opposition knew the only safe, futureproof option was a flyover intersection. I am pleased to say—
Mr Gareth Ward: We got it.
Ms LIZA BUTLER: Labor got it; Labor fought for that flyover. This motion is about fairness to our
communities up and down the Illawarra and South Coast. The previous Government failed our communities. It
failed to listen, failed to consult and failed to make sure we are futureproofing our roads. Quite simply, it forgot
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about people. The people of the Illawarra and South Coast deserve better. That is why I am here. The people of
the South Coast voted for change and for better community consultation. I am proud to be a member of a
government that will do just that. Our Government will listen to the community, consult with the community and
make sure that we are futureproofing our roads, because the Minns Labor Government is putting people first.
TEMPORARY SPEAKER (Mr Alex Greenwich): Before I call the member for Kiama, I thank
members for their largely orderly conduct during the contribution by the member for South Coast and ask that
order be maintained for the remainder of debate on the motion.
Mr GARETH WARD (Kiama) (14:56): That sounds like a warning, Mr Speaker. I actually agree with
most of what the member for South Coast said. But I have an amendment to the motion. I move:
That the motion be amended by omitting all words after "That this House" and inserting instead:
(1) Congratulates Independent Mayor of Shellharbour Chris Homer and Deputy Mayor Kellie Marsh on supporting the
community campaign to have on and off ramps installed off the M1 Princes Motorway.
(2) Notes the pre-election advocacy of the member for Shellharbour.
(3) Congratulates the member for Shellharbour on her elevation as Parliamentary Secretary for Roads.
(4) Condemns the Parliamentary Secretary for Roads for breaking Labor's promise to fund $20 million towards the Tripoli Way
bypass.
When ignorance goes to $100 a barrel, I want the drilling rights to this Government. After that display from the
member for Shellharbour in this place today, is it any wonder she was the only member on that side who had a
swing against them? She was the only member of the Labor team who had a swing against them. After that
performance, I am not surprised. When I look at motions like this, I think the Leader of The Nationals was right.
This is the sort of motion you would expect from a member of the Opposition, not a member of the Government
who can actually get on and do something. The member for Shellharbour will be judged very differently in
government than she was in opposition.
As I say in my amendment to the motion, I need to condemn the member for Shellharbour. I must say that
I was a bit surprised because I was expecting greater things from the member for Shellharbour. I was expecting
perhaps the speakership. In fact, I even thought she might have a shot at a ministry. I looked through the list of
potential ministries she could have, and I thought, "Premier, that's taken; Treasurer, that's taken too." Then I saw
"Minister for digital government" and I thought, "Yes, that's it. She would be a great Minister for analog." She
would be a great Minister for analog with motions like this. I say in relation to her speech, which was interrupted—
Ms Sophie Cotsis: Commodore 64.
Mr GARETH WARD: There were some great games on that, and I am sure the member for Canterbury
still plays them. Seven times the member for Shellharbour mentioned me in her speech, and seven times she
mentioned Dapto—seven times.
Mr Paul Scully: Wasn't that enough for you? You wanted more?
Mr GARETH WARD: Here is the air support from the member for Wollongong. I know he is not a great
fan of the member for Shellharbour, but he is here doing the right thing. I note that this would not have happened
if it were not for Councillor Homer, who committed to this on 13 February, and it was only a couple of days
before the election that the member for Shellharbour scurried out to make a very late announcement because she
was worried about the swing that was happening. She said that this was—I quote from her speech—"pure pork-
barrelling". Does she actually know what the definition of "pork- barrelling" is?
We made a commitment. I was the local member who made a commitment. We went to an election and it
was voted for by the people of Kiama. They wanted this project and I was elected on that platform. Who voted
against it? The member for Shellharbour. She voted against the means of funding the Albion Park Rail bypass.
Now she says the project is pork-barrelling but she wants to build a whole bunch of ramps off the project, which
I did support at the time. Her claim that I did not support it is wrong. I commend to the House comments in the
Illawarra Mercury of 28 April where the member for Shellharbour said:
Come July 1, as parliamentary secretary for roads and regional roads and transport, I'll be ensuring that planning starts.
I hope that that occurs, and I would be very supportive of it, but I hope that we see more honesty on that project
than we did from Labor on the Tripoli Way bypass. Labor promised $20 million for that but is relying on
$16 million committed in the last Parliament. They said, and lied, in their election campaign that only Labor will
deliver the Tripoli Way bypass—but $16 million of it comes from the last Parliament. Labor short-changed the
people of Albion Park and will be short-changing the people of the Illawarra as well.
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Mr PAUL SCULLY (Wollongong—Minister for Planning and Public Spaces) (15:00): I thank the
member for Shellharbour for bringing this motion to the attention of the Parliament. The premise of some of the
member's contribution was that the member for Shellharbour, at some point in time, had voted against something
that may possibly have funded something to do with the Dapto on and off ramps. Last night the member for Kiama
did the same thing. Last night we debated the Environmental Planning and Assessment Amendment (Housing and
Productivity Contributions) Bill. The central premise of that bill is that when you get housing growth you get
infrastructure, and it provides the architecture and funding stream in order to do that.
The member for Kiama joined his former party colleagues to vote against that bill in an area of incredible
housing growth—the exact sort of area where this sort of funding stream could fund infrastructure like on and off
ramps at Kanahooka Road, in the great electorate of Wollongong, or potentially at Fowlers Road, in the great
electorate of Shellharbour, all of which will be examined by the Minns Government as part and parcel of our
$10 million election commitment to do exactly that. That election commitment was given on 3 March by the
Premier when he came to Wollongong. I note that there is an interesting difference between the now Premier
coming to Wollongong as an Opposition Leader and making commitments about the region, when most of the
"premiers" from the other side just drove past. I mean the now Leader of the National Party claims that he is
familiar with the area, but did not even know where the on and off ramps were because he just drove past.
The reality is that West Dapto, which is going to be about the size of Wagga Wagga over the next few
years, is lacking infrastructure. But when presented with the opportunity to match places like West Dapto taking
housing growth, building great communities, giving opportunities to young people and families to have a home
to live in, with an infrastructure funding stream that would allow for things like road upgrades to State roads like
the M1, when presented with the opportunity to support that, to support his community, to back-in opportunity in
the Illawarra, what did the former Parliamentary Secretary for the Illawarra—he could not make Minister for the
Illawarra—do? He voted against it.
We have two very stark contrasts here. We have the Liberal-Nationals Party on the other side that left the
Illawarra out of a lot of things that they did when they had the opportunity to do it, largely led by the National
Party and the Barilaro faction at the time, and we have the Independent member for Kiama who is becoming the
Lee Majors—the stuntman—of the New South Wales Parliament. He fell on his face last night. And we have the
Minns Government that has a dedicated commitment of $10 million on the table to start the planning work for the
long overdue on and off ramps that are needed at Dapto. Not only will this be better for residents of West Dapto
and Dapto, it will also improve commerce and opportunity for job creation in Dapto town centre because people
will not be forced to use the Princes Highway alone to go south. It will improve opportunity to get to the new
Shellharbour Hospital; it will improve opportunity for jobs and young people and homes.
Mrs SALLY QUINNELL (Camden) (15:05): I understand the concerns of the member for Shellharbour
that people in her community of Dapto and West Dapto do not currently have fair access to the M1 because the
people of Camden do not have access to the M5. Currently, Camden residents have a single road to get from the
Camden electorate—the whole electorate—to the M5 motorway, and that is via Narellan Road. When
doorknocking before the election, people were telling me it can take them as long in time to get from Camden to
the M5 as it does to travel from Narellan to the city because the traffic on Narellan Road is at a complete standstill.
Twelve years of neglect of the Camden electorate has led to unprecedented amounts of growth, and yet we have
no extra access to the major motorway that takes us to our hospitals, to our schools and to the city for work.
The Spring Farm Parkway, so called because it was once planned to go through Spring Farm, has only
been started on the Menangle or Campbelltown side of the M5. Stage one has started, even though the Spring
Farm community was built five years ago, so people from Spring Farm currently have zero access, except to go
through the suburbs of Narellan, Mount Annan and Currans Hill to get to the M5. The hypocrisy of those on the
other side to talk about commitments to motorways is actually enraging to the people of Camden. When
doorknocking before the election, people were telling me, time and time again, that these commitments to Spring
Farm Parkway and access to the motorways is what led them to build in communities such as Spring Farm.
The lack of infrastructure planning and delivery by those opposite when they were in government for over
12 years has meant that people now spend hours and hours commuting to work—some in excess of two hours to
get to work—because they have been forced on to roads that were already overcrowded. The people of Camden
elected a Labor representative because they are outraged and disgusted. They have come to me in droves to talk
about the slowness of Spring Farm Parkway as an access road to the M5. It has been absolutely glacial progress.
The former Government kept approving new developments without any extra road infrastructure in the area, which
has led us now to a situation of gridlock on our roads during peak hour. It is a real problem for the people of
Camden, and we completely understand what it must be like for the people of Dapto and West Dapto, that after
12 years of complete neglect we have had no access to get to the services that we need. The people have spoken;
they are tired of it.
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Ms ANNA WATSON (Shellharbour) (15:08): In reply: The former Government did not care about what
was fair when it came to the M1. All they thought about was how good it would be and how good they would
look in a photograph with a golden shovel in their hands. The Albion Park Rail bypass was originally designed to
allow access for the residents of Dapto, and rightly so. In February 2018 the former Government, led by the then
Parliamentary Secretary for the Education and the Illawarra and South Coast, asked the companies tendering for
the construction contract to consider the Yallah interchange as a supplementary part of the project. The people of
Dapto know why they did it—so that they could use that money on upgrades further south, down in Liberal-held
electorates. The member for Kiama is proud of that. It is the classic pork-barrelling that those opposite love so
much. The member for Kiama could not wait to use his catchphrase—"When I make a promise, I always get it
done." What a joke! He is like the Scott Morrison of the Illawarra: Gareth from marketing.
Mr Gareth Ward: Point of order: That is an outrageous reflection and I ask the member for Shellharbour
to withdraw it.
TEMPORARY SPEAKER (Mr Alex Greenwich): Order! The member for Kiama will resume his seat.
I was conferring with the Leader of the House, so I did not hear the comment. I am sure that should the member
for Shellharbour wish to withdraw it she will. I ask that the member for Shellharbour be heard in silence through
what has largely and surprisingly been a respectful debate.
Ms ANNA WATSON: It was a travesty that the previous Government did not build entry and exit points
on the M1 between Dapto and Yallah so that local residents and workers could easily access the motorway. The
government of the day ignored the population projections for the area, which showed that access to this new road
from Dapto would be essential for new residents moving to the new suburbs. But a Labor government will get it
done. A Labor government will get Tripoli Way done. I have already met with all the key bureaucrats from
Transport for NSW. They are very excited to begin planning and work from 1 July for a fairer and better deal for
the people of West Dapto. Whether it be Kanahooka Road, Fowlers Road or Emerson Road, the department will
come up with the best and most effective options to ensure fair access.
One thing that this new Government cannot fix is the cost to build the Yallah interchange. It will cost more
now than if it was built when it should have been. We all know that those costs go up. If the former Government
had done the right thing in the first place, we would not be in this situation now. Taxpayers from across the State
will need to pay for the economic mismanagement of those opposite for generations to come—including a
$180 billion black hole that we have seen now that we are in government. They can no longer claim to be good
economic managers, because they have failed the people of New South Wales. The decoupling of that access point
from the main project was an absolutely ridiculous decision made by those opposite, who could not care less about
local residents.
The right thing to do is to get this job done and Labor will do that. Those opposite can try to blame the
bureaucrats for any delays, but the residents of Dapto know what happened and they will not forget. We are well
on our way to securing a fair go for the people of Dapto. We need to clean up the last 12 years of mess, but we
cannot do it in 12 weeks. We have only just come into government, but I can ensure my community that I will not
stop until we have fair access to the M1. The Illawarra's own Scott Morrison opposite—Gareth from marketing—
can spin this in the local media all he likes.
Mr Gareth Ward: Mr Temporary Speaker, can you help me? Ask her to withdraw it.
TEMPORARY SPEAKER (Mr Alex Greenwich): The member for Kiama will resume his seat. I thank
the member for Shellharbour for her contribution. The member for Shellharbour has moved a motion, to which
the member for Kiama has moved an amendment. The question is that the amendment of the member for Kiama
be agreed to.
The House divided.
Ayes ................... 33
Noes ................... 49
Majority .............. 16
AYES
Amon, R Hodges, M Saunders, D
Anderson, K James, T Singh, G (teller)
Ayyad, T Kean, M Sloane, K
Clancy, J Kemp, M Speakman, M
Cooke, S Lane, J Taylor, M
Coure, M Layzell, D Tuckerman, W
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AYES
Cross, M Marshall, A Ward, G
Crouch, A (teller) Perrottet, D Williams, L
Di Pasqua, S Petinos, E Williams, R
Griffin, J Preston, R Williamson, R
Henskens, A Roberts, A Wilson, F
NOES
Aitchison, J Hagarty, N O'Neill, M
Atalla, E Hannan, J Park, R
Bali, S Harris, D Quinnell, S
Barr, C Harrison, J Regan, M
Butler, L Haylen, J Saffin, J (teller)
Butler, R Hoenig, R Saliba, D
Car, P Holland, M Scully, P
Catley, Y Kaliyanda, C Stuart, M
Chanthivong, A Kamper, S Tesch, L
Cotsis, S Kirby, W Vo, T
Crakanthorp, T Li, J Voltz, L
Daley, M McDermott, H Warren, G
Dalton, H McGirr, J Washington, K
Dib, J McKeown, K Watson, A
Donato, P Mehan, D Whan, S (teller)
Doyle, T Minns, C Wilkinson, K
Finn, J
Amendment negatived.
TEMPORARY SPEAKER (Mr Alex Greenwich): The question is that the motion be agreed to.
Motion agreed to.
POKER MACHINE REFORM
Ms FELICITY WILSON (North Shore) (15:23): I move:
That this House:
(1) Calls on the Government to urgently reform poker machines in New South Wales.
(2) Commends the former Premier, Mr Dominic Perrottet, for his leadership on this issue to the last election.
(3) Notes that the Government's plan to trial pokie reform was heavily criticised by industry experts and the community, and
will fail the people of New South Wales.
We live in a State with more poker machines than anywhere in the world outside of Nevada, and it has created an
industry whose viability relies on revenue raised through the human misery of problem gambling. There are more
than 86,000 poker machines in New South Wales. That is 30 per cent more than Victoria and Queensland
combined. Areas with some of the highest losses to poker machines are also home to some of the lowest paid
workers, further entrenching disadvantage while wrecking families, lives and futures. Those are the families and
workers that members opposite profess to support. But their trial of 500 machines out of 86,000 is truly
disappointing. Former Labor leader John Robertson, whom the Premier was chief of staff to, said prior to the
election that even he could not understand Chris Minns' reluctance to support cashless gaming for poker machines.
Labor's plan has been criticised by gambling reform advocates as weak and likely to fail. The Alliance for
Gambling Reform chief advocate Tim Costello said:
The suburbs where poker machines do the biggest damage, where countless millions are ripped out of the local community, are in
traditional Labor electorates …
The Government is turning its back on the very communities that helped get it elected. When costing Labor's
policy before the election, the Parliamentary Budget Office said that restrictions only on new machines would not
curb gaming losses because patrons would just move to older machines with a higher limit. What is truly
astounding is that the Government has not even provided any clarity on why it is running this trial. Is it to assess
the technology? Is it to assess the effectiveness of reducing money laundering in clubs and pubs? With such a
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small trial, what would stop money laundering and the dirty money that comes with it occurring at the club next
door, or problem gamblers moving to the machines right next to the one in the trial?
We know that cashless machines have already been trialled voluntarily in our State, and that States such
as Victoria have implemented carded play already, giving us the research showing that a voluntary system is likely
to be ineffective in minimising the harms of problem gambling. I note that was under a Victorian Labor
government. We need a plan to address those problems directly while ensuring that our pubs and clubs and all of
the people who benefit from the work that they do can continue to thrive and be a force for good. Clubs can bring
people together and support live music and entertainment, sport, community events and much more. The social
benefits that clubs and pubs offer are especially important in regional New South Wales.
We also need to ensure that we are eliminating the scourge of dirty money in this State. In 2020-21,
$95 billion was turned over through poker machines in pubs and clubs in New South Wales, which is a truly
staggering number. The NSW Crime Commission estimates that billions of those dollars are the direct proceeds
of crime. Those revelations add to existing evidence detailing the harm that problem gambling causes to families
and communities in New South Wales. Recent data shows the scale of the financial impact, with New South Wales
residents losing $23.7 million every day. For problem gamblers, the costs are not only financial; gambling impacts
their relationships and their health and wellbeing, and can even lead to people losing their lives.
Although the cash-based nature of machines prevents law enforcement from seeing the full picture, the
NSW Crime Commission's inquiry still found that money laundering is widespread and significant. I note the
member for Sydney's call for papers motion and some of the incredibly concerning evidence and allegations made
about the amount of information that could have been withheld from the important work that the NSW Crime
Commission undertook. I find it astonishing that the Labor Government is turning its back on local communities.
It is enabling crime syndicates and others to continue the practice of laundering their money through clubs and
pubs. My motion commends the former Premier Dominic Perrottet not just for his leadership on this issue leading
up to the last election but also for providing a comprehensive plan to deliver a once-in-a-generation reform to
gaming, aimed at reducing criminal money laundering and helping address problem gambling.
The former Liberal-Nationals Government had a plan and a legislative framework to deliver those
much-needed reforms through to 2028. However, this Government has no such detailed plan. Labor members
have said no to legislating a date for a full transition to cashless gaming. They have ruled it out unequivocally.
Labor has said no to requiring that all new machines purchased once the rollout commences be cashless. Labor
has said no to enabling player identification verification to be linked to a single bank account and no to mandating
breaks in play. Labor supported only one of the eight recommendations put forward by the New South Wales
Crime Commission, and I note that the former Coalition Government had committed to all eight of the
recommendations.
TEMPORARY SPEAKER (Mr Clayton Barr): The member for Wyong will come to order.
Ms FELICITY WILSON: Labor has said no to legislating player privacy protections for all
system generated data. Clearly this Government has no plan for dirty money and no commitment to protecting
communities and eliminating the money laundering that is occurring within this State. I acknowledge the support
of members of the crossbench in this place for the need to secure the reforms. I particularly acknowledge the
member for Sydney, who is in the Chamber, and the member for Murray. They have both spoken on this issue
and have had to cop a lot of flak for doing so. We have a moral obligation in this place to legislate reforms that
will make a real difference to people's lives. We need to ensure we protect families and the community while
cutting down on organised crime. We need to break our addiction to gambling.
Mr DAVID HARRIS (Wyong—Minister for Aboriginal Affairs and Treaty, Minister for Gaming
and Racing, Minister for Veterans, Minister for Medical Research, and Minister for the Central Coast)
(15:30): I contribute to debate on the motion. I thank the member for North Shore for bringing forward this
motion on the very important public policy issue of poker machine and gaming reform in New South Wales.
However, most of the contribution from the member for North Shore was some sort of made-up fantasy. She is
verballing Government members in such a dishonest way, because we are about to implement exactly what she
said that we are saying no to. Before you contribute to debate in Parliament, how about you actually look at what
we are doing? I am happy to talk facts but I will not argue rubbish, and that is really offensive.
Ms Felicity Wilson: Point of order: If the member would like to make an accusation about me or any
member in this House, he knows that he needs to do so through a substantive motion. I ask that he withdraw.
Mr DAVID HARRIS: To the point of order: That is not a point of order in this particular case.
Ms Felicity Wilson: Further to the point of order: It is a point of order in this particular case.
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Mr DAVID HARRIS: Further to the point of order: I have made no imputations against the member's
character.
Ms Felicity Wilson: Further to the point of order: If the member wishes to call me dishonest in this
Chamber, he needs to move that as a substantive motion.
TEMPORARY SPEAKER (Mr Clayton Barr): The member for Wyong will direct his comments
through the Chair. He has been asked to withdraw, and he can choose whether to do so.
Mr DAVID HARRIS: I withdraw if there was some offence. But if the member for North Sydney were
to read the standing orders more closely, she would understand that is not actually a thing. But let us talk about
the truth. I understand that the member for North Sydney only came to this place a few years ago, but members
opposite were in power for 12 years. During their time in government—these are facts—the Liberal Party and
The Nationals oversaw a huge growth in gambling and betting revenue. When Labor left government in 2010-11
it was $1.75 billion, and when the Coalition left government in 2021-22 it was $2.9 billion. Members opposite
should not lecture us about gambling reform because not only did revenue from gambling and betting increase
but also the Liberal-Nationals Government in New South Wales made a litany of errors instead of working
constructively with all groups on sensible gaming reforms.
First, the former Government attempted a series of uncosted and untrialled changes without engaging with
industry or unions about the possible impacts on their jobs. It is a basic courtesy to let people know before
proposing changes that will affect their livelihoods and businesses, and Government members think workers have
a right to know if their jobs will be affected. At the eleventh hour before the State election, I think because Liberal
seats were under threat from the teals, the former Premier made an election promise for a mandatory cashless
gaming card that was uncosted and unplanned. I know that because I asked if anyone had a copy of the plan and
the answer was no—no-one had a copy of the plan. Neither the department nor the industry had seen it.
In fact, industry representatives made it quite clear that they had been totally left out of the loop. No money
had been set aside to actually implement a card or to scale up the technology to make sure it worked as intended.
Furthermore, there was no consideration of the possible impacts and consequences on jobs and the New South
Wales economy. It may have left the State open to significant compensation claims. The people of New South
Wales, especially those experiencing gambling harm and their families, deserve better than a whole lot of rhetoric.
They have deserved reform for the past 12 years, but it did not happen. What arrogance from the Liberal Party
and The Nationals, when they have not done anything remotely constructive on gaming reform in over 12 years.
We should not commend them for that. That is why Labor members obviously oppose the motion.
In comparison, the Minns Labor Government has been in power for nine weeks but is already progressing
several important gaming reforms. It has already brought to the Parliament a ban on electoral donations from clubs
with poker machines and a ban on VIP signage outside gaming lounges. There is more to come, including cash
limits on gaming machines and a reduction over time in the number of poker machines in this State. Government
members are not talking about it; they are doing it. The Government will soon announce the make-up of the
independent panel that will oversee the cashless gaming trial. Labor has a comprehensive suite of policies to
address gambling-related harms and money laundering in this State—policies that in the longer term will protect
individuals, families and communities but are good for workers as well. That is why the people of New South
Wales voted in March this year to change the Government—they actually wanted change, not more empty
promises and platitudes.
This is a really difficult, complex area. Yes, Labor members are taking a cautious approach, and things are
not happening as quickly as some people want them to. But anyone who knows me knows that I am very evidence
based and that I want to get things right. I do not want to move down a pathway and have some sort of crazy
disaster happen that costs businesses and costs the State jobs. I want to make sure that what we do as a government
is well thought out and well understood, and that it works. If Opposition members want to criticise us for doing
that then I will take that criticism. But trying to score cheap political points through empty rhetoric is not the way
to solve the problem or address what needs to happen. Government members want to make sure that there are
protections and harm minimisation. We want to stop money laundering, but we also want to protect jobs and make
sure it is done in a sensible way. I move:
That the motion be amended by omitting paragraphs (2) and (3) and inserting instead:
(2) Notes the Minns Labor Government is implementing policies for gaming reform to address harms from gambling and money
laundering associated with electronic gaming machine use in New South Wales, while also protecting jobs, particularly in
rural and regional New South Wales.
(3) Acknowledges the New South Wales Parliament crossbench for their constructive contribution to this important public
policy area.
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Mr ALEX GREENWICH (Sydney) (15:37): At the outset, I thank the member for North Shore for
bringing this motion to the House. I acknowledge that she is extremely passionate about this issue, as are members
of the Government, the Opposition and the crossbench. That has been highlighted by all members. I also
acknowledge the leadership of former Premier Dominic Perrottet in bringing forward what was an extremely
courageous policy during an election campaign, one that the member for Lake Macquarie, the member for
Wagga Wagga and I were in support of.
We are dealing with a very important and complex piece of law reform that hopefully will finally tackle
the State's addiction to gambling. The member for North Shore highlighted the state of problem gambling in New
South Wales, something that I know the Minister is fully aware of and seeks to address. New South Wales is the
nation's capital when it comes to money laundering. We know a great deal of that is being done in clubs and pubs
right across New South Wales through electronic gaming machines, and I am sure we will learn more about that
in coming weeks.
The member for Wagga Wagga, the member for Lake Macquarie and I met within days of the Minister for
Gaming and Racing taking up his role, and we have met with the Premier a number of times to discuss this issue.
I assure all members of this House that the new Minns Labor Government is taking the issue of reforms to deal
with gambling harm and money laundering extremely seriously. Ultimately, its policy will benefit from the
leadership and courage of the former Premier, Dominic Perrottet, and the work he did on his policy, which was
detailed and, I believe, also costed.
We heard in the Chamber today a number of accusations from both sides claiming that members on one
side of the House have done one thing and the other side has not. That is politics. When we want to progress
important, meaningful and controversial reform—something I have had some experience with—that type of
politics does not help the outcome. Consensus building, based on evidence, is how we get a result. My approach
to this reform will be to work with the new Government, to work with my crossbench colleagues and to work with
the Opposition to make sure that in this term of government we finally address problem gambling, and that we
finally address the elements of organised crime that on a regular basis today will be laundering money in clubs
and pubs across New South Wales.
This is something that New South Wales, as a State that is often considered to be the law and order State,
needs to finally be honest about and finally take seriously. As I said, I am grateful for the focus of the former
Coalition Government, but let me put those members at ease: The new Government is taking this seriously. The
new Minister is taking this seriously. I want to ensure the Government's trial is a complete success. I want to
ensure we have cashless gaming in New South Wales well before the Coalition's policy outlined. I think that is
entirely possible.
Mr GREG WARREN (Campbelltown) (15:41): My contribution to debate on the motion will be brief.
I thank the member for North Shore for bringing this very important and topical public policy issue to the House.
I also acknowledge my colleague the Minister and the Premier for their commitment to ensuring this matter is
addressed in a sensible manner that does not impose upon the entire industry potential ramifications which may
impact upon many workers and community groups. The member for Sydney is right. I acknowledge that one thing
he can never be blamed for is not being passionate. He is like a dog with a bone. This is his new bone and he is
running with it. Good on him. I know that professionally and personally this issue is important to him.
I believe that the Minns Labor Government's approach of adopting a comprehensive suite of policies to
address harms from poker machines and money laundering in New South Wales is the right approach at this time,
from a trial perspective. We in the Labor Party and in the Labor Government believe that good government is all
about implementing real change, but we have to do that by working in a constructive and collaborative manner
with the whole range of stakeholders. The Minister knows that in relation to this matter, nothing is more topical
than the need to engage with stakeholders to ensure they are listened to and considered. We must also be very
aware of ensuring that any changes we make are implemented constructively to provide a solution and find the
balance. That is why I support the amendment moved by the Minister. We know that any change must be sensible,
proportionate and evidence-based. We can adopt a proactive approach, but it is also very important that the
approach is collaborative and that it achieves the outcome we need.
With the support of industry stakeholders, 240 machines with cashless gaming technology are being
trialled. As I said previously, engaging with industry in a constructive way will make the process of
implementation and scaling up that process much easier and more effective. Soon the Government will announce
the independent panel to oversee the trial, including implementation, monitoring and evaluation. We want to make
sure the trial is successful at reducing the gambling harms and money laundering mentioned by the member for
Sydney. Furthermore, the solutions to those problems, such as a cashless gaming trial, will work only if supported
by a range of other measures to help with the longer-term transition to a cashless gaming environment. I emphasise
that a collaborative approach is so important.
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The Government already is considering implementing other measures, including reducing cash feed-in
limits to $500 for all new gaming machines. We will also be reducing the overall number of gaming machines in
New South Wales. We want to implement a set of evidence-based policies to address gambling-related harms and
money laundering from poker machines in New South Wales. As I previously noted, the Government will work
constructively with all members of this House: the Opposition, the crossbench and anyone who is willing to work
constructively to achieve the best possible outcome. That is so important, and that is precisely what the Minister
and the Government will do.
TEMPORARY SPEAKER (Mr Clayton Barr): There is too much audible conversation. Members will
please move their conversations outside the Chamber or whisper in the spirit of whispering, which is quietly.
Ms JENNY LEONG (Newtown) (15:46): On behalf of The Greens I speak in debate on the motion
moved by the member for North Shore, and I wish to raise significant concerns about this debate. It appears we
have gone from discussing the serious harms of gambling, poker machines and money laundering to a political
point-scoring exercise between the Government and the Opposition. It has become a contest of who we are
commending, who we are condemning and who we are moving on. Instead, we ought to be recognising that we
have a responsibility to act to address gambling harm and money laundering. From that point of view, I thank the
member for North Shore for putting the issue of poker machine reform on the agenda and allowing members to
have this debate. It is critical for members to examine the impact of gambling harm. In keeping with the comments
of the member for North Shore about focusing on the main game of reform, I will move a Greens amendment that
will seek bring us all together, instead of scoring political points, to recognise that all members of this House have
a responsibility to act. I move:
That the amendment of Mr Harris be amended by omitting all words after "That" and inserting instead "this House recognises that
every Member in the Parliament has a responsibility to act to end gambling harm and money laundering."
It is the view of The Greens that we must work through this problem to address all of the pressures and influence
that we have seen from the clubs industry, the gambling industry, organised crime and money laundering. We
have seen how gambling harm preys on our communities and how it corrupts our politics. I am proud to be a
member of The Greens, which is the only political party represented in this place that does not take corporate
donations or donations from gambling or the clubs industry. But the reality is that the gambling industry continues
to wreak ongoing damage on our communities while reaping massive profits from poker machines and an
enormous personal toll is taken on individuals and families who are experiencing profound financial stress.
Over the past 30 years, poker machines have taken $135 billion from people in New South Wales. The
machines are designed to draw people in and addict them, and the families that can least afford it are being hardest
hit by the pain. The Greens and the other crossbench members are clear on this. It seems that every member in the
Chamber sees clearly that we must act to address the harm that is being caused by pokies in our communities.
Through our willingness to act, we can demonstrate that we are not addicted to political point-scoring in the way
so many in our communities are addicted to poker machines. We can demonstrate that here and now by taking
responsibility for ending gambling harm and money laundering. The Greens want to see a whole lot more.
I recognise that the member for Murray is in the Chamber.
The DEPUTY SPEAKER (Mr Clayton Barr): Order! There is too much audible conversation in the
Chamber.
Ms JENNY LEONG: The member for Murray has made a significant commitment to reform, as have
many members on the crossbench. The member for Sydney, like The Greens, has made an absolute commitment
to reform in this space. The Greens want the introduction of a cashless gambling card. We want pubs and clubs
to pay for the harm they cause with pokies. We want to phase out poker machines in pubs within five years and
in clubs within 10 years. The Greens are committed to mandatory statewide cashless gambling cards in all pubs
and clubs. We need to reduce gambling harm in so many ways. This is not the time to score political points and
create division; it is time to show unity. All members in this place have the responsibility to act when it comes to
ending gambling harm and money laundering.
Ms JULIA FINN (Granville) (15:50): I am proud to be part of a Minns Labor government that is already
implementing a comprehensive set of policies to address the harms of gambling and money laundering associated
with poker machine use in New South Wales. I note the comment of the member for Sydney that the Government
is taking this seriously. We consulted many different groups, including industry groups, unions, harm
minimisation groups and charities, to develop these comprehensive, holistic and targeted policies. We have
worked hard to ensure that our policies deliver for the people of New South Wales, particularly in protecting jobs
and supporting workers.
Over 137,000 people in the State are employed across clubs, hotels, pubs and casinos. They do important
work and provide services that the majority of people enjoy using safely. In my community, local pubs and clubs
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support charities, sporting clubs and community organisations and schools. Local pubs and clubs support many
young people to get their first job out of high school or support them while they undertake further study at TAFE
and university. That is why the policies announced by the Government to address gambling harms are important
for workers.
The Government will not just implement an evidence-based trial to test cashless gaming systems and see
how they work in practice; it will also introduce a responsible gaming officer for venues with more than
20 machines. This will provide workers with the opportunity to do more advanced training to support patrons who
may be at risk of gambling harm. I know many of my local clubs already proactively approach patrons whose
gambling is getting out of control to offer support. The Government will expand the self-exclusion register to the
whole State and look at third-party exclusion processes. It will consider facial recognition technology in pubs and
clubs to ensure that patrons who are banned from venues are not allowed in. These policies will help workers in
pubs and clubs to manage and support those in the community who are at high risk of experiencing harm from
gambling behaviours.
The policies will also directly address issues such as money laundering of the proceeds of crime. Compare
this to 12 years of inaction from those opposite. We could see these problems unfolding. It was not until the Crime
Commission issued its report that members opposite began talking about taking action—but they did not
implement anything. This Government is implementing serious reforms. All members want action to reduce
gambling harms and money laundering in this State, but only Labor has developed policies that will achieve these
two goals while also supporting workers and jobs, and only Labor is implementing those policies.
Mrs HELEN DALTON (Murray) (15:53): By leave: I make a small contribution to debate on the
motion. I thank the member for North Shore for moving the motion. There will be a lot of debate on this and we
need to get on with it. The New South Wales Crime Commission has identified money laundering as occurring
within the State. It is certainly occurring within my electorate and there is no secret about that. The cashless
gaming card has been introduced in Norway. Limits were set and 99.6 per cent of people have kept within them.
The limits work to limit harm and money laundering. The system works well in Norway.
I urge the Minns Government to immediately introduce the cashless gaming card. I have heard about the
Government's plan. It needs to get on with the plan as quickly as possible. As I said last night, $185 million is lost
to poker machines in the electorate of Murray. There are 90,000 poker machines throughout the State—far too
many. Governments are also hooked on gambling as they clip the ticket. We need to expedite reform and I urge
the Minns Government to do that. We need to minimise the harm and organised crime. Right now, kids are hungry
and there is domestic violence, high suicide rates and financial ruin. We need to get on with the job as quickly as
possible.
Mr JAMES GRIFFIN (Manly) (15:55): By leave: If there was ever an issue that transcended politics,
I think this is it, as evidenced by the diversity of speakers from the crossbench, The Greens, the Government and
the Opposition. For that reason, I ask all members to think deeply about what it is that they do not agree with in
the Crime Commission report recommendations. As we speak, there are people in all of our communities feeding
hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars through poker machines. At the same time there are criminals laundering
money in the pubs and clubs that we all love and enjoy spending time in. As the member for Murray just
mentioned, urgency is the question.
I ask members to consider what part of the policy platform the Coalition took to the election they do not
agree with. Is it supporting the Crime Commission report recommendations; introducing cashless gaming in all
New South Wales venues; or legislating a date for a full transition to cashless gaming? Is it requiring that all new
machines purchased once the rollout commences be cashless? Is it enabling player identity verification linked to
a single bank account; banning political donations from pubs and clubs; or the buyback scheme targeted to acquire
2,000 machines over five years? Is it the $500 load limit? Is it ensuring funds for gaming come from one bank
account rather than allowing credit to be used; or implementing a statewide self-exclusion register with third-party
exclusion?
Perhaps members do not support mandating breaks in play; or the prohibition of the use of external signage;
or ensuring personal player data can only be used for law enforcement, government and commercial purposes; or
legislating player privacy protections for all system-generated data? This is an insidious problem. It is one of the
biggest issues to confront members of Parliament, no matter what part of the State we represent. As members
from both sides have said, urgency is required. I put it to the Government that it is time to get on with smashing
problem gambling and the devastation and destruction it causes in homes right across New South Wales.
I commend the member for North Shore for moving the motion.
Debate adjourned.
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Petitions
WAGGA WAGGA AND GRIFFITH CANCER TREATMENT CENTRES AND PATIENT COSTS
The SPEAKER: I note that there are a number of guests of the member for Wagga Wagga in the public
gallery. I acknowledge Justine Turnbull, Kym Bramich, Majella Gallagher, Emma Phillips, Sharon Flynn, Ian
Lovett, Judy-Ann Emberson, Navneet Choujar, Gemma Flynn, Agnes Yi, Annette St Clair, Peter St Clair and
Tony Noun. I welcome them all to the Legislative Assembly Chamber.
The question is that the House take note of the petition.
Dr JOE McGIRR (Wagga Wagga) (15:59): It is with pride and hope that I present this petition to the
New South Wales Parliament. It calls on the Government to address the unfair situation that the Riverina Cancer
Care Centre in Wagga Wagga is the only radiotherapy centre in regional New South Wales where patients seeking
life-saving, pain-relieving cancer treatment have to meet out-of-pocket costs. It means that the most vulnerable in
our community, when they are at their most vulnerable, have to deal with the added stress of finding money for
their treatment. Some 12,000 signatures from our region say that is unfair, and we are calling for it to be fixed.
I start with the history. The Riverina Cancer Care Centre was established 20 years ago. It was built using
$6 million raised directly by the community. That is a stunning achievement. The community arranged for the
centre to be run by a private provider. There was no public provider available at the time. That meant that an
out-of-pocket cost was charged. At the time the community was not happy. They had raised all of the funds for
the building. However, it was generally accepted because, in my view, people were so relieved to not have to
travel to Sydney and spend weeks fighting cancer away from their families. They saw the enormous benefit to the
community. I personally remember the primitive cancer treatment facilities in our region and the torment that
people suffered having to travel to Sydney for long periods of radiotherapy treatment without their family and
loved ones to support them. This facility changed that.
In a real way, the efforts of the people of the Riverina led the way for the State. The establishment of the
centre in Wagga Wagga confirmed how important it was for people to get treatment close to home. Otherwise,
people would often choose to not get the treatment that they needed. There are now a range of facilities in regional
New South Wales run by the State Government that do not have out-of-pocket costs. That is great. I applaud the
investment by the Government in that. I note that we now have the facility in Griffith, which is run by a private
provider and does not have out-of-pocket costs. Sadly, 20 years on, people attending the Wagga Wagga centre are
still paying out-of-pocket costs. In this day and age, that is just not acceptable. The community should not be
punished for funding their own cancer centre 20 years ago, but that is what it feels like.
It has meant that our community has had to support patients. I acknowledge the work of Can Assist. There
are members of Can Assist in the public gallery. Their volunteers have basically picked up the slack to help people
fund their treatment. I also acknowledge Amey Glynn. She is not here today, but I am sure she is watching online.
Amey told the ABC that she had to pay $5,000 for an initial consultation for her non-Hodgkin lymphoma and
then had to pay an additional $1,300 a week during her treatment. She acknowledges that she was one of the lucky
ones who could afford those costs. There were rebates through private health insurers and Medicare, but those
up-front payments are a hefty financial burden that many have to overcome. It scares people, especially those who
do not have the means, and there is still a gap to cover at the end of it.
Furthermore, we may see more public-private partnerships, with the Commonwealth providing some
infrastructure funds and a private partner also coming in. I guarantee that there will be out-of-pocket costs when
those get set up. The State Government must address that. I understand how complicated the relationship between
the State and Commonwealth governments is, and I understand the rules that bureaucrats put in place. But at the
end of the day, those rules often do not make sense in rural regions. I would like to see the Commonwealth and
the State work together to make sure that where the Commonwealth funds infrastructure, the State is supported to
meet out-of-pocket costs in a reasonable way.
Radiotherapy can be a life-saving treatment. It can relieve severe pain. It can prolong life. We would all
expect it to be there for our loved ones as close as possible to where they live, so that they can go through treatment
with the support of their family. We also expect that people have access to that without financial strain. This
petition of more than 12,000 signatures calls on the Government to intervene and resolve that funding anomaly
and regional health inequity. I commend the motion to take note of the petition to the House.
Dr MICHAEL HOLLAND (Bega) (16:04): I acknowledge my colleague Dr Joe McGirr, the member
for Wagga Wagga. We have shared experiences as clinicians and representing rural regions of New South Wales.
We acknowledge the lived experience of our constituents on this important issue. People who live in rural and
regional New South Wales can access cancer services through networks of public and private providers. The
services provide prevention, screening, diagnosis, treatment and palliative care services. People with cancer in
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rural and regional areas are also able to participate in investigator-driven clinical trials closer to home. There are
nine public and five private "comprehensive cancer care centres" in regional New South Wales. All public centres
provide services such as radiotherapy, medical oncology, clinical haematology, palliative care and rehabilitation.
They also provide access to other essential services, such as diagnostic imaging, nuclear medicine, pathology,
intensive care and pharmacy services, as well as the skilled workforce necessary to provide a quality, sustainable
cancer service.
The nine publicly funded rural and regional comprehensive cancer care centres are located in Tamworth,
Orange, Nowra, Coffs Harbour, Port Macquarie, Lismore, Gosford, Wollongong and Dubbo. The five private
centres are in Wagga Wagga, provided by Cancer Care Associates; Albury-Wodonga, provided by GenesisCare;
Gosford, provided by ICON; and two centres at Maitland, provided by GenesisCare and ICON. The
Murrumbidgee Local Health District currently supports the provision of cancer treatments within the Riverina
with $1.6 million a year. Patients in the district are also supported by communities, non-government organisations
and key cancer support partners. The Wagga Wagga cancer treatment facility, known as the Riverina Cancer Care
Centre, was built through support and donations from the Riverina communities.
The Murrumbidgee Local Health District has a service agreement with Cancer Care Associates, which
provides cancers services for the region from the centre. Services include inpatient and outpatient radiotherapy
and outpatient chemotherapy in Wagga Wagga, as well as outreach medical oncologist consultant support for the
district's chemotherapy services at Griffith Base Hospital and Young Health Service. The district also provides
specialist clinicians to the centre, including cancer care coordinators, allied health professionals and specialist
nurses. Wagga Wagga Base Hospital provides inpatient medical oncology to admitted cancer patients. Outpatient
medical oncology treatments are provided to patients through centre premises located in the Wagga Wagga health
precinct on the Calvary private hospital campus. The centre is operated as a private enterprise and has
patient-billing policies for patients accessing cancer treatment.
The centre applies a range of different billing models that allows patients to access private insurance,
Department of Veterans' Affairs payments and bulk billing. Some patients may be required to pay additional gap
fees. The Murrumbidgee Local Health District provides the centre with an annual infrastructure grant to support
access to cancer treatment for public patients. In part, that payment is intended to reduce out-of-pocket expenses
for patients accessing chemotherapy and radiotherapy. The district provides a range of treatment and supportive
care to patients with cancer, and it partners with other services to ensure patients receive the appropriate care that
they require during their cancer journey.
The medical oncology units at the Griffith and Young hospitals are operated through a service agreement
between the district and the centre. The medical oncology unit at Young is a district-operated service providing
chemotherapy treatment three days a week. The medical oncology unit within Griffith Base Hospital is operated
by the district and provides chemotherapy treatment to patients five days a week. The centre provides medical
oncologists while the district covers all other operational and infrastructure costs. The Cancer Care group has been
successful in obtaining a Fighting Cancer grant of $5.2 million to develop a radiation oncology facility at Griffith,
operating as Cancer Care Griffith.
In 2022 the New South Wales Government reached an agreement to ensure there will be no out-of-pocket
expenses for public patients attending the radiotherapy service in Griffith. The facility is expected to start
operations in June 2023. The Government is committed to providing equitable access to high-quality cancer
treatment for Riverina residents. Work has commenced on renewal of the agreement between the district and the
private provider. The district prioritises access to quality cancer services for patients and families in the Riverina
region, and is working to ensure equitable, safe and affordable cancer care.
Mrs HELEN DALTON (Murray) (16:09): I speak in favour of the ongoing push by the member for
Wagga Wagga to have radiation therapy in Wagga Wagga bulk-billed. Let me start by saying that this is a fight
that Dr Joe never should have had. I have a personal understanding of this fight because, until recently, I was
facing exactly the same fight for funding in Griffith that the member is facing in Wagga Wagga today. Before the
change of government, Griffith and Wagga Wagga were the only two places in New South Wales where cancer
patients faced out-of-pocket expenses to get life-saving treatment. In every other area of the State these treatments
are bulk-billed. It was never fair or equitable for the good people of Griffith or Wagga Wagga to have to find
more than $400 every time they needed life-saving treatment when everyone else in the State gets the same
treatment for free.
While the financial pressure this cost causes is unfair and outrageous, as anyone who has cared for a sick
loved one will tell you, it is not only about the expense. It is also about the emotional impact of the unfairness of
that expense. The unfairness upsets patients at a time when they should not be upset. Let us not forget that many
of these patients are being forced to face death. How on earth can any government tell people they can access
life-saving treatments only if they are willing to pay a bill that no-one else in the State is expected to pay? Recently,
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the new State Government agreed to do the right thing by the people of Griffith and provide the funding needed
to ensure that radiation therapy in Griffith can be bulk-billed. While that is great news, it fixes only half the
problem. What about Wagga Wagga?
That is why I am calling on the new State Government to do the right thing by the people of Wagga Wagga
and ensure they can access bulk-billed radiation therapy, just like every other person in New South Wales. Given
everything else that a cancer patient goes through, surely this is the least we can all do to help people in their time
of incredible need.
Ms TRISH DOYLE (Blue Mountains) (16:12): I acknowledge and pay respect to my colleague the
member for Wagga Wagga for bringing the petition to this place and acknowledge the visitors from Wagga Wagga
who are in the public gallery. I am a proud Riverina girl and went to Wagga Wagga High School, although now
I represent the good people of the Blue Mountains. But you never forget where you come from. In acknowledging
the good member and my respect for him, I point out that I agree that rural and remote regions of Australia have
higher rates of mortality from all cancers than metropolitan areas. I agree that we need to confront the geographic
and socio-economic disparities that exist between metropolitan and rural areas. I agree that, as representatives in
this place, we are all tasked—not just the Government—with ensuring all Australians have equal access to cancer
care, no matter where they live or what their circumstances are.
However, it is important to put on record that not everyone who is diagnosed with cancer must travel long
distances for treatment, because there are regional cancer centres across New South Wales. The New South Wales
Government acknowledges and cares that there may be extra challenges, such as having to travel for tests or
treatment, and that many people cannot access the treatment they need because of their finances. I acknowledge
also comments by my colleague the member for Bega, who said that people living in rural areas have poorer
access to and use of primary and secondary healthcare services than do people in the cities. It is incumbent on all
of us who come from outside the Sydney metropolitan area to point that out in this place again and again, whether
or not we are members of the Government, and to work with the government of the day to fix some of those
problems.
The Blue Mountains District ANZAC Memorial Hospital, which is a small hospital and sits under the
tertiary hospital of the Nepean, is unable to provide cancer services. We are unable to provide many things. The
complexity and specialisation of health services today mean that small hospitals like Blue Mountains Hospital,
which is not in a metropolitan area but is sometimes included in Greater Sydney in different portfolios, are unable
to provide the full range of health services requested by residents. At this moment I am working hard with my
colleague the good new Minister for Health to provide cancer care services at Blue Mountains Hospital, because
that is possible with some planning and funding. So I understand where the member for Wagga Wagga is coming
from, and I empathise. Like him, I will continue those conversations with our Minister. We will continue
advocating until we can provide the care that our constituents need, regardless of where they come from.
I have trust and faith in this Minister, who spent—and to this day still spends—time in hospitals and with
communities, listening to people and understanding what their needs are. He has ahead of him the huge task of
addressing more than a decade's worth of neglect of people in New South Wales. I put that on the record as well.
Some important points have been covered but, as a girl from Wagga Wagga, I put on the record that the cancer
treatment facility known as the Riverina Cancer Care Centre was built through support and donations from
Riverina communities. We should always remember that. Services include inpatient and outpatient radiotherapy
and outpatient chemotherapy in Wagga Wagga and outreach medical oncologist consultant support for the
district's chemotherapy services at Griffith and Young Health Service. We need to acknowledge those points.
I finish by acknowledging that the previous Government reached an agreement last year to ensure that
there would be no out-of-pocket expenses for public patients, and we will now get on with the job. I believe that,
wherever you come from across New South Wales, this Government will deliver.
Ms STEPH COOKE (Cootamundra) (16:17): I am pleased to speak on behalf of the Cootamundra
electorate in support of this petition lodged by the member for Wagga Wagga. I acknowledge the member for his
advocacy on this issue, which calls for the elimination of out-of-pocket expenses associated with radiation
treatment at the Wagga Wagga cancer treatment centre. The centre is, of course, accessed by people from my
electorate who are in need of cancer treatment. Accordingly, many of my constituents signed the petition at
locations such as Junee Post Office. I also acknowledge and thank the petition's signatories for their support of
this issue, which is important for many regional families.
We know that out-of-pocket expenses are a significant impost when accessing health care. Combined with
the extensive travel often required of patients in regional towns in order to gain access to the treatment needed, it
can take a huge physical and emotional, let alone financial, toll. Thankfully, last year the former Coalition
Government significantly expanded the Isolated Patients Travel and Accommodation Assistance Scheme, or
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IPTAAS. This is already making a difference for local families, helping to reduce the financial burden on regional
patients who need to travel long distances to receive specialist care, including cancer treatment.
Making IPTAAS the most generous scheme in the country has also eased some of the burden on
organisations such as Can Assist, which amongst other stakeholders had an active role in making the case for
change. On that note, I acknowledge and commend the representatives of Can Assist who join us in the gallery
today. For more than 20 years, Can Assist has been supporting patients and their families undergoing cancer
treatment with out-of-pocket expenses. In the Cootamundra electorate, we have an amazing team of volunteers
who make up several local branches of Can Assist, including branches at Ardlethan, Cootamundra, Grenfell,
Gundagai, Harden-Murrumburrah, Junee, Narrandera, Temora, Ungarie, West Wyalong and Young-Boorowa.
On Daffodil Day last year, I remember meeting Catherine Goodall and Sheridan Evans of the
Cancer Council, Wagga Wagga, together with Liz Cowled and Graham Besley of Junee Can Assist. Next month
Junee Can Assist will be hosting their Ladies Long Lunch, a fundraiser which has become a calendar highlight
locally. Earlier this year Cathy Manwaring of the Cootamundra branch opened her sunflower field to the
community in return for donations to Can Assist. These are just a couple of the amazing people in my part of the
world who are raising awareness, advocating for and providing support to regional cancer patients and their
families.
Much of this work is achieved through substantial fundraising efforts—it is extraordinary—which have
always been incredibly well supported by the broader community. All moneys raised go to supporting local people
with out-of-pocket expenses. Their reach goes far and wide. With the support of Can Assist and improvements to
IPTAAS, some of the financial barriers experienced by regional patients in accessing the treatment they need are
eased, but more can always be done.
We know the benefits of radiation therapy as part of the cancer treatment mix. It is a proven lifesaving
therapy used in 48 per cent of successful cancer treatments. Radiation helps patients with certain types of cancer
to avoid expensive and intrusive surgery. While we are fortunate to have radiation treatment available in
Wagga Wagga to support patients in the broader region, it is crucial that access is not impeded by the associated
costs. We have heard today that Griffith has had its local radiotherapy centre fully approved as a bulk-billing
centre. Quite simply, the same arrangements should apply at Wagga Wagga. The inequity from centre to centre
needs to change. I am pleased to support the petition on behalf of all those in my electorate who signed it, and on
behalf of all of those currently supporting a loved one through the fight of their lives.
Mr RYAN PARK (Keira—Minister for Health, Minister for Regional Health, and Minister for the
Illawarra and the South Coast) (16:22): I sincerely thank the member for Wagga Wagga not only for bringing
this petition to the House but also, I have to be honest, for his incredible advocacy on behalf of rural and regional
communities when it comes to health care. I have had the pleasure of listening and learning from Dr Joe, as he is
known to those of us on this side of the House, for a number of years. I always leave conversations with Joe more
informed about rural and regional health care, so I thank him very much. I thank the member for Murray, a terrific
advocate for her community; the member for Cootamundra; my good mate the member for Blue Mountains; and
the member for Bega.
I have to be honest: I think we can do better on this, and we need to do better. I have asked NSW Health
to go back and have a look at this. I was first informed about it when I made a trip to Wagga Wagga as part of my
first trip into rural and regional New South Wales when I took over as Minister. I also went to see the member for
Murray. I had the opportunity to speak to Joe about this discrepancy. It does not make a lot of sense to me, if I am
brutally honest about it. I have asked NSW Health, in the spirit of what new Ministers should do, to go back,
examine this and pressure test it, because I think we can do better.
What we have to start to realise is that we have to have a lens over things that the city takes for granted in
rural and regional health care as well. You cannot have a Westmead in every town or village. I know that, and the
people whom I have met over the last four years as shadow Minister and in the last eight weeks as Minister
understand that better than most. One of the beauties of being shadow Minister for so long is that I have had a
very deep engagement with many people in rural and remote New South Wales. What they often tell me is, "No,
we don't need a Westmead in every town or village, Ryan, but one of the challenges we have is that services that
we were getting 25 or 30 years ago have been taken away. It would be good to get some of those back."
I will end by saying this: I am going to look at this carefully and have ongoing discussions with the member
for Wagga Wagga. I am going to make sure that priority is placed on rural and regional health care within
NSW Health. I think we have a lot more work to do. I think we can do a lot better than we are doing. I am happy
that the member for Wagga Wagga and, I think, the member for Murray will be on a Legislative Assembly
committee inquiring into the implementation of our rural and regional health care. I thank all members for the
way in which we have debated this today and for their advocacy on behalf of rural and regional New South Wales.
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Dr JOE McGIRR (Wagga Wagga) (16:25): In reply: I begin by thanking the Minister for his reply and
look forward to the successful conclusion by that Minister. I also acknowledge and thank my colleagues, the
members for Bega, Murray, the Blue Mountains and Cootamundra, for their words. It was in not even a year that
we amassed 12,000 signatures. That is due to the hard work of a whole lot of people. I acknowledge that I started
this petition with the member for Murray, Helen Dalton, who is in the Chamber and spoke. I thank her for her
support. Of course, the situation in Griffith was resolved during the petition, but we worked to get it going at the
start and I thank her for her support. I also acknowledge that members of her community in Griffith contributed
to the building of the centre originally. I also acknowledge the members of the Cootamundra electorate, the
contribution of the member for Cootamundra and the support of the Can Assist branches there and people of her
electorate who have contributed to this centre and for whom this is such a vital issue.
I finish by thanking all of those who have contributed to the collection of signatures. I am sure I will not
cover everyone, but I want to acknowledge Ms Debbie Robinson, Ms Cindy Flint, Mr Alan Lean, Ms Nola Baker,
Mr Rod Blundell, Ms Anne Hallard, Ms Andrea Sturgess, Ms Jane Lieschke, Ms Judy Pigram, Ms Leah Niehus,
Ms Kathryn Goss, the late Mr Peter Moloney, who helped me go around to practices to get this petition signed
and who sadly passed away earlier this year, Ms Susan Gannon and Dr Saba Nabi. They are just a few of the
people.
I also acknowledge Annette St Clair and Judy-Ann Emberson, long-term advocates for cancer in our
electorate. I acknowledge Can Assist and Emma Phillips, who is here with her team. The work they have done to
support people in our region is phenomenal. That includes Margaret Dalmau and the team at Lilier Lodge. I also
thank the people from Cancer Council NSW for the work they have done. I acknowledge Mr Tony Noun who has
been with Riverina Cancer Care Centre since the beginning. I am pleased that the situation has been resolved for
Griffith but, as the Minister himself acknowledged, we can do better on this for Wagga Wagga and we need to do
better on this for Wagga Wagga. It is an unfair situation and is just not acceptable. I commend the motion to take
note of the petition to the House.
The SPEAKER: I thank the guests in the gallery who visited to listen to debate. I imagine many of you
travelled quite some distance to do that and I acknowledge the additional effort you have gone to.
Petition noted.
Community Recognition Statements
TRIBUTE TO JOY MCKEAN, OAM
Mr KEVIN ANDERSON (Tamworth) (16:29): I pay tribute to an Australian country music pioneer,
Joy McKean, OAM. Sadly Joy passed away on 25 May 2023. A singer-songwriter, musician, wife and mother,
Joy achieved so much in her 93 years. In 1951 Joy married Slim Dusty and so began the most prolific country
music partnership in Australian history. She achieved over 100 albums; six Golden Guitar Awards, including
twice being inducted into the Australian Roll of Renown; and a Lifetime Achievement Award from the Australian
Women in Music Awards. A multi-award-winning songwriter, including some of Slim Dusty's biggest hits—
Lights on the Hill and The Biggest Disappointment—her work will forever be remembered. The outpouring of
grief across our nation at her passing is testament to her legacy. The "light on the hill" may have gone out, but the
warmth Joy created across the generations in the hearts and minds of country music artists and music lovers around
the world will glow eternal. Vale, Joy McKean, OAM.
AUSTRAL PUBLIC SCHOOL P&C ASSOCIATION
Mr NATHAN HAGARTY (Leppington) (16:30): On Monday morning I visited Austral Public School
to attend its latest parents and citizens meeting. It is always great to sit down and chat with parents and carers to
get an update on what is happening in the local school community. Austral Public School P&C and school staff
are doing a wonderful job at a school whose student population has increased threefold in the past five years.
Parents are important partners in the education process. They have the right and a responsibility to play a part in
the education of their children. I give a big shout-out to P&C president Marijana Herceg-Nad for the invite. She
and the rest of the P&C executive are strong advocates for their community and local school. I commend their
selfless work on behalf of the students and staff at Austral Public School. I also thank principal Khaled Elhage for
his leadership and acknowledge the support he provides the Austral Public School P&C. I hope to visit more
P&Cs throughout Leppington in the future.
DCAF CONNECTIONS
Mr ALISTER HENSKENS (Wahroonga) (16:31): Dementia is an important issue many families in our
community face. Since 2018 DCaf Connections has supported those living with early to mid stages of dementia
or displaying signs of cognitive decline. Based in Warrawee, this volunteer-run program holds weekly two-hour
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social cafes with opportunities for socialisation, activities and information on how to live well with dementia. The
activities include fitness to boost memory, coordination and balance as well as art and music therapy. The
volunteers are generous with their time and genuine in their care, providing invaluable social support, connection
and friendship. Earlier this year it was a pleasure to recognise five locals as community heroes for their
contribution to DCaf Connections over many years, including John Cronly, Margaret Drylie, Gerry Foley, Robert
Jenkins and Laurel Thiessen. I also thank program coordinator Fiona Jenkins for her dedication.
UKRAINIAN FILM FESTIVAL
Ms LYNDA VOLTZ (Auburn) (16:32): I acknowledge the opening of the inaugural Ukrainian Film
Festival, also known as UA, last Friday, hosted by the Australian Federation of Ukrainian Organisations and the
Ukrainian Council of NSW. We all know the devastating impact of the war on the local Ukrainian community in
New South Wales and Australia, and it was good to see this launch with the screening of Mariupol. Unlost Hope
to open the festival. The festival ran for the weekend with five different films on show and was an excellent
opportunity to explore Ukrainian culture through the medium of film, as well as show support to the people of
Ukraine. I am proud to have a significant Ukrainian community in Lidcombe, including being home to St Andrews
Ukrainian Catholic Church, the Ukrainian Council of NSW and the Ukrainian Association of Sydney.
Congratulations to the Australian Federation of Ukrainian Organisations, the Ukrainian Council of NSW and the
organisers of UA on a fantastic event. I look forward to attending the film festival again next year.
JASON RIDGEWAY
Mr MICHAEL KEMP (Oxley) (16:33): I had the privilege of attending the first major solo exhibition
of local Oxley artist Jason Ridgeway at Newington College in Sydney recently. Mr Ridgeway of BlackBoy
Creations is a proud Dunghutti man who is well-known for his numerous artistic impressions, local murals and
surfboard art. In addition he designed the Sydney Rooster's jerseys for the 2021 National Rugby League
Indigenous Round. Many of the artworks on display at this exhibit were painted from his personal experiences,
as well as stories representative of the Dunghutti area that come from his uncle and mentor John Kelly. Uncle
John Kelly was in attendance for the opening night at Concordia Gallery, and it was an honour to speak to him
and hear his family's stories. Mr Ridgeway and his wife Roxanne are currently working alongside Macleay
Vocational College and Kempsey Shire Council with aspirations of opening a cafe in the existing building and
perhaps a gallery space. I look forward to hearing how this development unfolds, and I cannot wait to see further
exhibitions of Mr Ridgeway's artwork.
ASIAN WOMEN AT WORK
Ms KYLIE WILKINSON (East Hills) (16:34): It is a great honour to recognise and celebrate the work
of Asian Women at Work. The organisation has been running for almost 30 years, working to empower Asian
women, who experience significant injustice and exploitation in Australian society. The network provides
resources and assists women to stand up for their rights and develop their leadership skills, allowing them to be
advocates and to fight against exploitation. With over 2,000 members, from outworkers to those working in the
care economy, Asian Women at Work has helped migrant women obtain secure employment and establish lifelong
connections. I also acknowledge and thank Ronnie Wang for her continued leadership in supporting female
migrant workers. We are incredibly grateful for all the work that this organisation does and will continue to support
Asian Women at Work in their endeavours.
ALETA WASSELL
Mr MICHAEL REGAN (Wakehurst) (16:35): During Reconciliation Week I extend heartfelt
recognition and appreciation to an exceptional member of our community, Aleta Wassell. Aleta, a local
Indigenous artist, has made an indelible mark on our community through her extraordinary design of the Manly
Warringah Sea Eagles 2023 Indigenous Round jersey. That jersey not only captures the essence of our nation's
rich Indigenous heritage but also embodies the spirit of unity and community that is so integral to our
reconciliation journey. Aleta's vision was to create a design that resonated with every individual, regardless of
their background, and she has succeeded in doing so spectacularly. Aleta's commitment to ensuring that the jersey
truly reflects our community is commendable. It is crucial that we acknowledge and celebrate the contributions
of individuals like Aleta Wassell, who use their artistic talent and cultural knowledge to foster understanding,
respect and unity. And she can sing. I express my deepest gratitude to Aleta for her remarkable artistic contribution
to our community. May we all be inspired by Aleta's dedication and continue to work together to build a future
that embraces reconciliation, inclusivity and harmony.
PENRITH CITY AUSTRALIAN NATIONAL SERVICEMEN’S ASSOCIATION
Ms KAREN McKEOWN (Penrith) (16:36): On Sunday 28 May 2023 the Deputy Premier and I attended
the seventeenth anniversary memorial and tribute laying ceremony of Penrith City Australian National
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Servicemen's Association Incorporated, or the "nashos" as we call them. The service was at its memorial in
Victoria Park at St Marys. It was opened by president Mr Harry May, followed by vice president Mr Ken
McPherson reading the prayer of remembrance. The national servicemen's ode was delivered by secretary
Mr Graham Larkham. I congratulate them on keeping the tradition alive and on another moving ceremony. I also
commend the Penrith nashos for their continued community service. The funds they raise go to the Soldier On
program and Legacy. They also sponsor navy, army and air force cadets. I found the following tribute on their
website: "To our fallen and departed mates: If tears could build a stairway to heaven, and memories were a track.
We would all walk up to heaven and bring our mates back."
TRIBUTE TO ANTHONY PUN, OAM
Mr MARK COURE (Oatley) (16:37): I pay tribute to a highly respected giant of our community.
Anthony Pun, OAM, sadly passed away a few weeks ago. Born in Malaysia and first arriving in Australia in 1964,
Tony was truly a bipartisan warrior for social justice, working across the political spectrum to advance the causes
of migrant communities and break the stigmas associated with migrant activism. Tony was never afraid to stand
up for what he believed was right, standing tall as a passionate voice and a friendly face for those in unfamiliar
territory. Tony did not know how to stand by and do nothing. He only knew how to act quickly to support those
most in need. Tony will be remembered as a compassionate and caring friend to the Australian-Chinese
community. His work and activism have given a voice to thousands of migrants who often feel forgotten. I am
proud to have had the honour of working with him in my time as the member for Oatley and former Minister for
Multiculturalism. He has given to the people of this State more than most will ever know. I extend my deep
condolences and thoughts to his family.
NATIONAL SORRY DAY
Ms CHARISHMA KALIYANDA (Liverpool) (16:38): On Friday 26 May I was invited to
commemorate National Sorry Day at the Liverpool Regional Museum. An important day in our national calendar,
National Sorry Day invites us to reflect on the pain and suffering felt by Stolen Generations survivors and to
recognise the need for reconciliation, healing and truth-telling in New South Wales and across Australia. The
event featured poignant remarks from Aunty Pearl Wymarra and Julie Dannevig, as well as a wreath-laying
ceremony at the Stolen Generations memorial tree. Accompanied by touching performances from Nulungu
Dreaming, the event brought home the importance of the day. Moreover, I enjoyed speaking with Uncle Darrell
of the Gandangara seniors' group and sharing in his valuable knowledge about the history and customs of the local
Darug peoples, including the fact that Liverpool is yam country. I acknowledge the efforts of the Gandangara
Local Aboriginal Land Council and the Tharawal Local Aboriginal Land Council in putting the event together, as
well as Liverpool City Council for helping honour the strength of Stolen Generations survivors.
TRIBUTE TO DR ANTHONY PUN, OAM
Ms JENNY LEONG (Newtown) (16:39): I acknowledge the passing of Dr Anthony Pun, the founding
president of the Chinese Community Council of Australia and a founding member of the Chinese Australian
Forum, and express my deepest sympathies to his family and friends for their loss. During his lifetime Dr Pun
served as the president of the Australian Chinese Community Association of NSW and chair of the Ethnic
Communities' Council of NSW. A three-time recipient of the Premier's award for community service, last year
Dr Pun received a Lifetime Achievement Award for his work in medicine, services to the Australian-Chinese
community and dedication to multiculturalism. Since his passing many have written about Tony's involvement in
the promotion of Australia-China relations since the early 1980s, particularly his powerful contribution in 1989
when he advocated to Prime Minister Hawke to allow Chinese students to remain in Australia following the
Tiananmen Square massacre. Tony remained a vocal advocate in his later years, continuing to stand up for Chinese
Australians subjected to racism. On 29 May many gathered at Dr Pun's funeral in a show of respect and
appreciation for his contribution and the influence he had on them and our society.
COUNCILLOR BILAL EL-HAYEK
Mr JIHAD DIB (Bankstown—Minister for Customer Service and Digital Government, Minister for
Emergency Services, and Minister for Youth Justice) (16:41): I congratulate Councillor Bilal El-Hayek on
being elected mayor of the great City of Canterbury Bankstown. I have known Bilal for more than 20 years and
am so proud of his achievements, from his days as a youth worker to his role as a community leader. Having
arrived in Australia in 1999 at the age of 12 and without speaking a word of English, Mayor El-Hayek attended
an intensive English school before enrolling at Belmore Boys High School and finishing his senior years at Noor
al Houda Islamic College at Strathfield. He even attended Punchbowl Boys' High School but lasted only one day.
One of his first paid roles was as a youth coordinator with the Bankstown PCYC, managing and mentoring young
people and facilitating family programs.
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He has always demonstrated that he is there for others. He also worked on the Bankstown Families Connect
program, which brings together disadvantaged children and their mothers from the local community to participate
in various fun social and educational activities. There is so much to this man and his leadership. It has always
been clear that he has passion at his very heart. I wish Bilal good luck and I thank him for speaking and leading
from his heart. I also pay tribute to outgoing mayor, Khal Asfour, who led the city for over 10 years and showed
the most courageous leadership and compassion when our community was unfairly treated during the lockdowns.
He always believed in the potential of our great city.
PARKLEA PUBLIC SCHOOL P&C
Mr MARK TAYLOR (Winston Hills) (16:42): Today I acknowledge the hardworking volunteers who
represent the Parklea Public School Parents and Citizens Association. Organisations like P&C associations are
vital to our communities and contribute to their local schools through organising and administering school-centred
events and programs. Recently the Parklea Public School P&C hosted its "Rock and Rides Night". The event was
open to Glenwood and surrounding communities to participate in. It was a fantastic event that included an
assortment of amusement rides, food stands, community groups and a display of fireworks ended the night. In
addition to its spectacular community events, the P&C take accountability for the school's uniform shop, book
fair, Mother's Day stall, Father's Day stall, end-of-year performances and a number of safety campaigns for the
whole school community. I commend the Parklea Public School P&C for its community advocacy and the tireless
work it does to organise such great events for the school. I extend my congratulations to the newly elected P&C
executive: Ruchi Shah, Vanessa Fernandez, Alfonso Moreno, Natasha Volpato and Veronica Sharma.
RIVERSTONE FOOTBALL CLUB
Mr WARREN KIRBY (Riverstone) (16:43): The Riverstone Football Club has a remarkable place in
the history of Australian Rugby League. Riverstone made history 129 years ago on 25 May 1894 by participating
in the first ever rugby league game in Australia. The match ended with a score of 6-3, featuring two tries for
Riverstone and one for its opponents. While the football club was forming, a meeting was held and two teams
were chosen for the trial. Football practice began on a newly established ground in Mr B. Richards' meatworks
paddock. It is interesting to note that each team comprised 13 players, indicating the informal existence of a
13-a-side game of rugby union. After the game, Riverstone Football Club continued to promote rugby league
through exhibition games across the State, contributing significantly to the sport's growth and development. Those
efforts played a crucial role in rugby league officially being established in 1908. Riverstone Football Club's early
contributions and unwavering dedication played a pivotal role in shaping the future of rugby league in Australia.
Its commitment to the sport and its embrace of a new format laid the foundation for the thriving rugby league
community we have today.
RURAL FIRE SERVICE
Mr RICHIE WILLIAMSON (Clarence) (16:44): I acknowledge the wonderful volunteers of the Rural
Fire Service. I am sure members recall the 2019-20 fires. Those fires were some of the darkest days in my
electorate. At the time firefighters from Canada joined the Rural Fire Service volunteers to lend a hand. Now it is
time to return that enormous favour, with some 50 firefighters heading to Canada to make sure that its 60 wildfires
are extinguished. I know that the Minister was on hand to farewell those firefighters last weekend. One of the
volunteers is the captain of the Glenreagh brigade, Mr Peter Cram. The area where the Glenreagh community
lives, along with other towns and villages in my electorate, burned uncontrollably in 2019 and 2020. Those
Canadian firefighters and Captain Cram were heroes during the firefighting. I thank them very much.
TRIBUTE TO CLARE NOWLAND
Mr STEVE WHAN (Monaro) (16:45): I pay tribute to the life of Clare Nowland and again express my
sympathy to her family, her friends and the people who cared for her. The tragic circumstances of Clare's death
are being investigated and lessons are being learned, but for now I want to echo Clare's local priest, Father Mark
Croker, who said:
… despite the tragic circumstances surrounding her death, it was how she lived her faith and her incredible life of service that should
be remembered.
Mrs Nowland has eight children and more than 60 grandchildren and great-grandchildren. They will miss their
beloved mother, grandmother and great-grandmother, but they have many wonderful memories and every right to
be proud of the person Mrs Nowland was. She raised her eight children in Cooma and spent more than five decades
volunteering for St Vincent de Paul, helping to establish its Cooma store. She volunteered at the Sir William
Hudson Memorial Centre and celebrated her eightieth and eighty-fifth birthdays by skydiving. She was a
remarkable woman. Father Mark also said:
No way would you ever pick up that she was anything but a beautiful soul with deep faith—that's the lady who everyone knew.
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Vale, Clare Nowland.
WALK IN THE PARK FUNDRAISER
Mr GARETH WARD (Kiama) (16:46): Today the Parliament of New South Wales recognises the local
Kiama community, which is helping to raise funds for people with Parkinson's disease at this year's Walk in the
Park along the waterfront at Kiama Harbour. I acknowledge Lesley Errington, the co-coordinator of the event and
Kiama's Parkinson's Support Group. The day will also feature one of the event's biggest raffles, with 20 prizes
including a ride in a classic mustang car to Berry, baskets of high-quality beauty products, paintings and a range
of vouchers for local businesses. There is even a parliamentary wine pack. Rotary's beloved sausage sizzle
barbeque, which fed over 200 people at last year's event, will provide lunch on the day. All proceeds will go to
the local Parkinson's Support Group and Parkinson's NSW to fund nurses and the HealthLine. Kiama's Parkinson's
Support Group will also hold its local community heroes award, which will be presented to exercise physiologist
Sarah Clem. The event is on Sunday 4 June 2023 at Black Beach in Kiama from 12.00 p.m. to 3.00 p.m. I will be
doing the walk and all members are invited to come to Kiama to contribute to a great cause.
LEONA CURRAN
Ms LIZA BUTLER (South Coast) (16:47): I take this opportunity to recognise Leona Curran, who is
one of 25 female members of Marine Rescue Jervis Bay. She joined in 2013 after a career in organisations that
assist the public in times of emergency. Leona has grasped the complex area of fundraising and grants and has
raised more than $500,000 for the unit in the past 10 years. Leona has secured grants that have benefited other
Marine Rescue units including Ulladulla, Shoalhaven and Sussex Inlet. Leona is a finalist in the 2023 Shoalhaven
Emergency Services Community Awards. Her work has ensured that Marine Rescue Jervis Bay continues as an
effective emergency service and we are so grateful for all she does for our community.
SECONDARY SCHOOLS STUDENT LEADERSHIP PROGRAM
Ms STEPHANIE DI PASQUA (Drummoyne) (16:48): I acknowledge the Secondary Schools Student
Leadership Program and the students in my electorate who visited Parliament on 31 May. The program recognises
the leadership role of school students and provides them with the opportunity to meet elected representatives to
develop their knowledge of constitutional and parliamentary processes. I extend a special welcome to Jonas
Kapsanis and Erika Okubo-Fleming from Rosebank College in my electorate. I hope that Jonas and Erika found
the experience enjoyable and enlightening. I acknowledge the principal of Rosebank College, Mrs Iris Nastasi,
for her leadership in educating the future leaders of tomorrow. I commend the Parliament and members for
welcoming those students and helping to spark their interest in politics.
MORUYA MICRO-FOREST
Dr MICHAEL HOLLAND (Bega) (16:49): I recognise the volunteers who started the development of
Moruya's first micro-forest. Landscape architect Edwina Robinson founded the Climate Factory in 2019 in
response to the 2019-20 bushfire disaster. Her aim is to build climate-cooling community micro-forests and
connect individuals in our community with each other and the natural environment. More than 50 volunteers have
combined to work with Ms Robinson, local TAFE horticulture teacher Wendy Jones and the Eurobodalla Regional
Botanic Garden to plant 600 native grasses, shrubs, trees and pollinating plants. Another 1,500 plants are expected
to be planted in spring this year. Apart from the plantings, considerable earthworks were performed to create a
water bank and large granite boulders were donated by the local Beashel Quarry. The final result will be a micro
dry rainforest on the site of Moruya's St John's Anglican Church. I congratulate everyone who was involved in
that community ecological project.
NORTHSIDE RADIO
Mr TIM JAMES (Willoughby) (16:50): I heartily congratulate the community radio station Northside
Radio FM 99.3 on its fortieth anniversary. For four decades Northside Radio has delivered quality on-air content
to inform and entertain the North Shore community. It is a widely enjoyed and appreciated community station and
a source of pride for me and so many people involved. On Saturday 20 May I was delighted to join Richard Bell,
Simon Baker and others from Northside to extend my congratulations. I thank Northside for kindly hosting me. It
was my third time being on air with that great local icon. I appreciate all that Northside does for my community
of Willoughby with its engaging broadcast mix of music, news, views and information. It was also terrific to see
my colleagues the member for Davidson and Paul Fletcher, the Federal member for Bradfield, there in support.
Finally, it is important to remember that community radio stations such as Northside are driven by the community,
so everyone should lend their ears and their support.
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SHARON MCBRIDE
Mr WARREN KIRBY (Riverstone) (16:51): I congratulate Sharon McBride, a beloved resident of
Riverstone, on being a finalist for the prestigious Blacktown City Council Senior Citizen of the Year award.
Sharon's incredible compassion, care and unwavering determination during the area's flood recovery efforts have
left a lasting impression. Sharon's remarkable energy and dedication defy traditional age expectations, making it
difficult to label her as a senior citizen. She is a legendary figure embodying resilience, empathy and an
unwavering spirit that inspires others. Throughout the challenging journey of flood recovery, Sharon has
consistently demonstrated her unwavering commitment to assisting those affected by the disaster.
Her compassionate nature and determination to make a positive impact have shone through every step she
has taken, whether coordinating relief efforts or providing invaluable support to families and individuals. Sharon
has become an indispensable asset to the community. The well-deserved recognition as a finalist for Senior Citizen
of the Year is testament to Sharon's exceptional contributions and the profound difference that she has made in
people's lives. I commend her selflessness and dedication, as well as the extraordinary impact she continues to
have on the community. Sharon is a true inspiration and a shining example of an exceptional community member.
SECONDARY SCHOOLS STUDENT LEADERSHIP PROGRAM
Ms ROBYN PRESTON (Hawkesbury) (16:52): I commend the student leaders from Colo High School,
Hawkesbury High School, Kuyper Christian School and Windsor High School for their attendance at this week's
Parliamentary Student Leadership Program. I joined my parliamentary colleagues for a question time with
students, which was so much more civilised than those I have experienced in this Chamber over the years. Students
got firsthand exposure to politics, and the questions raised by the students were of a very high calibre. It gave me
great courage and strength to ask them in our question time. Those students are our future leaders, whether they
become politicians, teachers, entrepreneurs, parents, essential workers or tradies. I left their company feeling
buoyant and comfortable in the knowledge that leadership comes in many forms. Let our students be nourished
and grow as they experience Parliament and beyond. I also commend the parliamentary staff for running the
program.
KEZIE APPS AND MILLIE BOYLE
Dr MICHAEL HOLLAND (Bega) (16:53): I wish the New South Wales National Rugby League [NRL]
Women's State of Origin team luck in their clash with Queensland in Sydney tonight. The Bega electorate is
represented by our local stars Kezie Apps and Millie Boyle. The pair are the only two forwards in the pack who
played in last year's State of Origin match, contributing both skill and experience to the New South Wales line-up.
Born in Bega, Kezie started her career with the Bega Roosters before joining the greatest of all clubs, the mighty
St George Illawarra Dragons. She has previously received the Dally M medal and New South Wales Rugby
League State Player of the Year, as well as representing her State and nation. Millie Boyle comes from Cobargo
and started her career in women's rugby, representing our national women's rugby team, the Wallaroos, in the
2017 Women's Rugby World Cup. Millie transferred to women's rugby league in 2019 and has once again starred,
representing the Brisbane Broncos, the Newcastle Knights and the Sydney Roosters. Millie has also represented
her State and her nation in women's NRL. I congratulate those local Bega electorate and New South Wales sporting
stars.
SANDRA RADICE
Ms STEPHANIE DI PASQUA (Drummoyne) (16:54): I recognise the accomplishments of Sandra
Radice, who recently released a book called Our Green Change. Sandra Radice held a book launch for her first
memoir, which chronicles the highs and lows of her family's quest for a different way of living. Sandra spoke at
Concord Library on 10 May and described her family's journey from Sydney to Green School in Bali and the
lessons they learnt as a family both inside and outside the classroom. She recounts the wall-less bamboo learning
environment in the jungle, which aims to nurture children and educate for sustainability. I sincerely congratulate
Sandra on publishing her first memoir and thank her for sharing her story with our community. It is an incredible
accomplishment that I am sure her family and friends are very proud of. I congratulate Sandra.
ASSYRIAN DEMOCRATIC MOVEMENT
Mr TRI VO (Cabramatta) (16:55): On 12 April 2023 I had the honour of attending a very special
celebration hosted by the Assyrian Democratic Movement [ADM]. It was celebrating its forty-fourth anniversary
since its foundation and welcoming in the 6,773rd Assyrian New Year. It was a fitting tribute to see Mr Hurmez
Odisho, a special ADM guest from Iraq, as well as numerous community and cultural leaders and association
representatives from throughout our local community attending. They were present to acknowledge and commend
the ADM on its continued efforts and dedication towards supporting and caring for the Assyrian people and our
broader community. In turn, it was fantastic to see the ADM present many awards to the various cultural and
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community leaders in recognition of their own efforts and for selflessly giving so much to the community over
the years. I congratulate the ADM Australian chapter; its president, Immanuel Sada; its vice-president, George
Adam; and the volunteers for hosting another successful function.
BUILDING LIVERPOOL EXHIBITION
Ms CHARISHMA KALIYANDA (Liverpool) (16:56): The City of Liverpool and District Historical
Society celebrated the opening of its new exhibition, Building Liverpool, at the Harvard Room in Liverpool
Library on Saturday 27 May. The exhibition tells the story of the building of the town of Liverpool, from its
origins as the first convict-built town for free people to the more contemporary housing we see today. The town
of Liverpool was built at the direction of Thomas Moore and followed the famous Hoddle grid style. He probably
could never have imagined the 32-storey high-rise apartment towers and housing estates by local builders like
Masterton Homes that exist in the city today. Hats off to President Glen Op Den Brouw, Secretary Gail Newman;
the public officer, Pam Valentine; and all members of the historical society for bringing that special event together.
I also acknowledge the Grimson family, local businesses, the Liverpool Men's Shed and others who contributed
to bringing the special event together.
CHERTSEY PRIMARY SCHOOL
Mr ADAM CROUCH (Terrigal) (16:57): Before this week's parliamentary sitting I had the pleasure of
attending Chertsey Primary School for the smoking ceremony and breaking of ground on its brand-new Aboriginal
garden and yarning circle. Being Reconciliation Week, it was such an important time for the school and the
community. It was great to see both parents and students taking part in that outstanding breaking of ground at the
school. I also congratulate and acknowledge Tim Selwyn from Girra Girra, who gave a wonderful
acknowledgement of country and a very moving dedication and smoking ceremony at the school, which the
students got to take part in. Chertsey Primary School in my electorate of Terrigal is an amazing school with quite
a large number of disadvantaged students, who were also able to take part in the smoking ceremony and be part
of Reconciliation Week. The school is focusing on that this week. I acknowledge the great work done by the staff
at Chertsey Primary School every day with those fantastic students.
TRANSPORT WORKERS' UNION
Mr WARREN KIRBY (Riverstone) (16:58): I express my sincere gratitude to a delegation from the
Transport Workers' Union who recently took time to meet with me and discuss the pressing concerns faced by our
most essential workers in New South Wales. During our meeting we delved into issues pertaining to the conditions
faced by bus workers across the State. It came to light that our bus drivers are currently confronting a dire lack of
essential amenities. The absence of toilet facilities and lunch room provisions at various bus depots across the
State has left our drivers facing unnecessary and uncomfortable situations in an already gruelling line of work.
The absence of break room facilities where they can rejuvenate amidst their arduous schedules compounds their
challenges. I commend the members of the Transport Workers' Union delegation for their tireless efforts in
advocating for the rights and welfare of our transport workers. Their commitment to safeguarding the interests of
those frontline workers is recognised and appreciated by me and many others in this Parliament. In particular,
I thank Mick Pieri, David Moala, Stewart Jones, Robert Rasmussen and Caitlin Marlor for their kindness in
meeting with me and my colleagues.
Private Members' Statements
CENTRAL COAST VOLUNTEER APPRECIATION DAY
Mr ADAM CROUCH (Terrigal) (16:59): I recently had the pleasure of attending the Central Coast
Volunteer Appreciation Day and District Medals Presentation for the Rural Fire Service. The Central Coast
Volunteer Appreciation Day acknowledges the hard work and dedication of 118 of the district's members, who
were presented with medals and awards in honour of more than 2,450 years of service between them.
Commissioner Rob Rogers joined Central Coast District Manager Superintendent Viki Campbell—who was a
former Local Australian of the Year and is an outstanding leader—and special guests at Mingara Recreation Club
to present five National Emergency Medals, 43 National Medals, 73 Long Service Medals and three
Commissioner's Unit Citations for the St Florian's Day Awards.
The hard work and professionalism of all Central Coast RFS members does not go unnoticed. While they
do not ask for praise, it is important that we acknowledge and thank them—and their families—for their incredible
contribution. I take this opportunity to thank the following wonderful volunteers from my electorate and
acknowledge their awards for 2023. Leigh Pilkington of Avoca Beach initially joined the Avoca Beach brigade
in 2007 and has 15 years of service. In addition to his previous awards, Leigh received the National Medal. Tracy
McDermott of Wamberal joined the Wamberal brigade in 2006 and has 16 years of service. In addition to her
previous awards, Tracy also received the National Medal. Clint Pressley of Kincumber joined the Copacabana
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brigade in 2005 and has 17 years of service. In addition to previous awards, Clint also received the National
Medal. Shaun Wilkins of Terrigal joined the Wamberal brigade in 2005 and has 17 years of service. In addition
to previous awards, Shaun also received the National Medal.
Christopher Douglas of Killcare Heights joined the NSW RFS in 2004 and is currently a member of the
Berkeley Vale brigade and has 18 years of service. In addition to previous awards, Christopher received the
National Medal. Christopher McInerney of Wamberal joined the NSW RFS in 1999 and is currently with the
Gwandalan-Summerland Point brigade and has 18 years of service. In addition to previous awards, Christopher
also received the National Medal. Lee Wills of Green Point initially joined the NSW RFS in 2003 and is currently
with the Erina brigade, having 19 years of service. In addition to his previous awards, Lee received the National
Medal. Andrew Lynch of Terrigal joined the NSW RFS in 2002 and is currently a member of the Somersby
brigade, with 20 years of service. In addition to his previous awards, Andrew received the National Medal and
RFS Long Service Medal 1st Clasp.
Michelle Biddulph of Kincumber joined the NSW RFS Killcare Wagstaffe brigade in 1998 and has
23 years of service. In addition to her previous awards, Michelle received the National Medal. Alan Lundie of
Kincumber has 24 years of service, having joined the NSW RFS Copacabana brigade in 1998. For a short period
he has also been a member of the MacMasters Beach brigade. In addition to his previous awards, Alan received
the National Medal. Adam Martin of Wamberal initially joined the NSW RFS Wamberal brigade in 1997 before
transferring to the Warnervale brigade in 2016 and has 26 years of service. In addition to his previous awards,
Adam received the National Medal. Warwick Teasdale of Pretty Beach joined the NSW RFS Killcare Wagstaff
brigade in 1976 and has an impressive 46 years of service. In addition to his previous awards, Warwick received
the National Medal 2nd and 3rd clasps.
Michael Boyce of Springfield received the Long Service Medal for 10 years of service as a member of
Gosford headquarters operational support, and the Brisbane Waters/Erina brigade. Ian Goodman of Matcham
received the Long Service Medal for 10 years of service as a member of the Matcham-Holgate brigade. Samuel
Gribble of St Huberts Island received the Long Service Medal for 10 years of service as a member of the Mooney
Mooney and Brisbane Waters/Erina brigades. Joshua Ford of Copacabana received the Long Service Medal for
12 years of service as a member of the Killcare Wagstaffe, Gosford Bulk Water, Wendoree Park and Copacabana
brigades. Stephen Gribble of St Huberts Island received the Long Service Medal 1st Clasp for 22 years of service
as a member of the Mooney Mooney and Brisbane Waters/Erina brigades.
The Central Coast has some of the highest rates of volunteering in the nation. It is the incredible generosity
and selfless service of these incredible volunteers that help protect our community and environment. I thank them
all for their tireless service on behalf of our grateful community. We also thank the family, friends, employers,
and colleagues of all RFS volunteers, whose ongoing support enables our incredible volunteers and members to
continue to do their important work to help keep our community safe. These are the people heading into danger
when other people are heading in the opposite direction. They have almost 2½ thousand years of volunteer service
between, and we say a very hearty thank you.
RURAL AND REGIONAL HEALTH
Dr MICHAEL HOLLAND (Bega) (17:04): Earlier today I spoke in the petition debate brought to this
Assembly by my colleague the member for Wagga Wagga, Dr Joe McGirr. More than 10,000 residents in Wagga,
Griffith and the surrounding regions have petitioned this Assembly to eliminate out-of-pocket expenses for those
receiving radiotherapy in Wagga or Griffith. Last Friday, I presented a briefing to the Country Mayors Association
of NSW on the Government's policies for rural and regional health. The association's motto is, "What we want is
nothing more than equity." Those in this Chamber who represent rural and regional New South Wales could adopt
the same motto—nothing more than equity.
The more than one-quarter of residents of New South Wales who live outside the metropolitan centres are
not immune from life-threatening diseases. We know that people living in rural and remote areas have higher rates
of hospitalisation, death and injury. They have poorer access to, and use of, primary and secondary health care
services than people living in major centres. People living in major cities have the highest five-year cancer survival
rate at 63 per cent, but tragically those in very remote areas have the lowest at 55 per cent. Overall, rural and
regional residents are 35 per cent more likely to die within five years of their cancer diagnosis. This is
demonstrated by the fact that the death rate from rectal cancer increases by 6 per cent for every 100 kilometres a
patient is from radiation therapy. Half of all cancer patients would benefit from radiation therapy but only
one-third receive it. This proportion is worse in rural and regional communities.
It is estimated that 30 women per year die from breast cancer because of a lack of access to local radiation
oncology services. There is also a lack of palliation. The lack of access to radiation oncology services leads to
poorly controlled symptoms and premature death. It results in lower survival rates, avoidable surgery, long
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distances of travel and weeks away from home. One-third of men and one-quarter of women will have a diagnosis
of cancer by the age of 75. The age group of 70 to 74 has the highest incidence. My electorate of Bega has one of
the oldest demographics in New South Wales. This will only grow—as will the incidence of cancer—along with
the need for radiotherapy services. My electorate has the highest rate of cancer of the prostate, breast, colon, lung,
skin and pancreas as well as cancer of unknown origin in south-east New South Wales. It is predicted that there
will be a 64 per cent increase in cancer diagnoses and an increase of 100 new cancer deaths per year by 2031.
Radiation oncology services are functioning or approved in the electorates of Tweed, Clarence, Oxley,
Myall Lakes and Murray. Those electorates have populations between 57,000 and 59,000, and areas from just
over 500 kilometres squared to more than 110,000 kilometres squared. Just as the residents of Wagga Wagga and
Griffith submitted a petition advocating for the costs of radiotherapy, last year approximately 5½ thousand
residents of the Bega electorate submitted a petition to this Assembly requesting local radiotherapy services. The
Bega electorate has a population of 59,845 and an area of 9,774 kilometres squared but has no radiation oncology
services. Why is the far South Coast of New South Wales different?
I finish with the words of a brave and dignified local woman, Cathie Hurst, who recently died after her
battle with rectal cancer. She said:
Travelling meant that I had to be prepared for whether I was going to vomit on a plane, have diarrhoea attacks or anything, which is
highly embarrassing and concerning. You get shaky just thinking about can you get on that bus for that long or the train or whatever
it was you were taking. The difference between that and actually having a hospital or a facility in your region where you can drive
yourself, have your 15-minute radiation treatment and come home—it would make all the difference to people.
The new Eurobodalla regional hospital, for which I campaigned, will provide the foundation for the staff and
infrastructure to provide future radiation oncology services in the Bega electorate. I will continue to work with
the Minister for Health, and Minister for Regional Health to achieve those services in the Bega electorate. All we
want is equity.
ST GEORGE FOOTBALL CLUB
Mr STEPHEN KAMPER (Rockdale—Minister for Small Business, Minister for Lands and
Property, Minister for Multiculturalism, and Minister for Sport) (17:09): It is a pleasure to speak in the House
this afternoon about the St George Football Club, one of the greatest and most successful sports clubs in my
electorate of Rockdale. Founded in 1957 as "Budapest", the club settled in St George in the early 1960s, changing
its name to St George Budapest in 1965. A few years later the club's social home, the registered club called Soccer
House, opened in Mortdale, becoming the centre of soccer's off-field life in the St George district for the next
30 years. That also marked the start of two golden decades for the club on the field, with grand final wins in 1967,
1971 and 1972. Three more followed in a row in 1974, 1975 and 1976, another in 1981, and then, in 1983, its first
national title claimed in the new National Soccer League [NSL].
The names associated with the club in that era were legend, not least being the famous Johnny Warren,
who played with St George from 1963 to 1974. St George has produced multiple Socceroos over the years, with
no fewer than five in the 1974 World Cup squad alone. And, as if that was not enough, the much-missed
Les Murray was a St George Football Club player in his younger days. With such amazing success came the
fantastic new St George Stadium at Barton Park in Banksia in 1978. With so many of the legends of the Australian
game associated with St George, Barton Park quickly became known as the home of Australian soccer. NSL
games were regularly played at the ground, including many televised finals, and international games were often
held there as well. Anyone who watched the Socceroos run out onto Barton Park will never forget it, and it remains
in the heart of every player, supporter, or even casual observer of the game in that era.
Sadly, the once-shining St George Stadium slowly declined in the late 1990s and early 2000s during those
hard years for Australian soccer. With structural issues discovered in the roof, it eventually became unsafe to use
and, by 2018, it had to be abandoned. The wonderful news that I can report to the House is that the Bayside
Council immediately began planning a major rejuvenation of Barton Park. After an extensive community
consultation process in 2020 and 2021, construction started on a complete redevelopment of the entire precinct in
October last year. I was honoured to be invited to the sod-turning with the outstanding Mayor of the Bayside
Council, Christina Curry. The rebuilt Barton Park will feature facilities for a number of sports—including football,
of course. With a new small grandstand on the main pitch and three other pitches being constructed for practise
and competition, it will be a fantastic football facility.
St George Football Club has been going from strength to strength since it emerged from COVID with a
dynamic board under Chairman Bruce Spiteri—another football tragic—and a powered-up group of volunteers
who love the game and the club. This season the club has no less than 23 teams with both men's and women's
teams at every age level, right up to the senior first teams. In fact, I will highlight how thoroughly the St George
Football Club has understood that women's football is as much the future of the game as men's. Not only does the
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club have more girls and women's teams than any other club in the area, the under-20 Women's Team won their
grand final last season to become the 2022 Football NSW League One Women's Champions. It is fantastic to see
the talent coming through the club.
As the board, players and volunteers work hard to grow and develop the club at all levels, they are reaching
out to rekindle the historical connections to the many former players and officials who have spread out across
Australia since the glory days at Barton Park. With the completion of the park's redevelopment getting closer, the
return to Barton Park—their spiritual home; the home of football—will give this great club the new permanent
facilities they need to power their way back to glory. I look forward to their return. I simply cannot wait to see the
St George Football Club run out at Barton Park again.
COWRA TRESILLIAN FAMILY CARE CENTRE
Ms STEPH COOKE (Cootamundra) (17:14): In February this year it was my special privilege to join
the community of Cowra to officially open the new Tresillian Family Care Centre, which had been operating for
about 12 months. It was a special occasion because it followed a concerted community effort to secure this
fantastic service for the benefit of local families and those in the broader region. Having Tresillian in Cowra meant
that for the first time local families, as well as those from towns like Young, Grenfell and Eugowra, could gain
access to specialist parenting support much closer to home. Many families and special guests attended, including
Rob Mills, the CEO of Tresillian; Rochelle Longhurst; Pauline Rowston; and other representatives from the
Western NSW Local Health District. I am delighted Yvonne Weldon was there too, a proud Tresillian
Ambassador, Wiradjuri woman and Cowra girl.
The future of the service was looking bright. However, just a couple of months later its future now hangs
in the balance. The funding for Cowra expires on 30 June and Tresillian is still yet to hear whether the funding is
to be extended. The funding would allow specialist family healthcare nurses and specialist mental health support
staff to continue their important work. I therefore call on the Minister for Regional Health to recognise the
enormous value this service brings to the health and mental health outcomes for families in the area. Despite the
huge effort we put in to secure the much-needed service in Cowra and the amazing work being achieved by the
team there in a short time, it is worrying that they have no assurance about their future. I note this issue is not
limited to Cowra. In Griffith, the Tresillian service is available to support families from the west of my electorate
like Narrandera, Barellan, Naradhan, Weethalle and Ungarie, as well as services at Goulburn, Armidale, Grafton,
Muswellbrook and Moruya.
Why is a strong future for Tresillian at Cowra so crucial? For a start, Cowra's birth rate is almost double
the national average with between 2.37 and 2.08 births per woman in the region—far higher than the national rate
of 1.74. Women also tend to be younger when they have their first child. Families tend to have more children and
families have a higher degree of socio-economic disadvantage. We have more single-parent families than the
State's average and a greater number of families who are Aboriginals and Torres Strait Islanders. Those
demographics combined, coupled with geographic limitations of being regional, make access to the specialist
services provided by Tresillian and the Gidget Foundation all the more crucial. Those factors meant Cowra was
prioritised as one of the six centres announced in the 2021-22 budget by the former Coalition Government. The
$12.2 million investment enabled Tresillian and the Gidget Foundation Australia to collaborate and expand their
footprint into regional New South Wales. The investment was an absolute game changer and Tresillian got started
straightaway.
I first met Tresillian Cowra nurse unit manager, Rochelle, in December 2021—not long after she was
appointed to the role. Even though Tresillian had not yet finalised its permanent location, Rochelle was already
connecting with local families out of the Cowra health service. Since Tresillian opened its doors in February last
year, over 450 occasions of service have been provided, including individual consultations to over 120 parents
and children, and over 80 group program participants. That is 450 instances when parents and carers of newborns,
toddlers and preschoolers would otherwise have had to travel to Canberra or Sydney for help with everything
from sleeping difficulties and feeding problems to supporting multiple babies and behavioural challenges, as well
as providing support for the emotional wellbeing of the family—and that is just in its first year. Imagine the
significant impact this would have over time. Tresillian is only getting started. We know that the first 2,000 days
of a child's life are crucial. They set them up on a trajectory that shapes the people we become, the health we
enjoy, and how we learn and behave. At the Tresillian Family Care Centre at Cowra, local mums and dads and
carers know that help is available locally when they need it. I urge the Minister to guarantee a strong future for
the Tresillian Regional Family Care Centre by continuing its funding. I welcome the opportunity to discuss the
issue further at the Minister's earliest convenience.
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WOLLONGONG ELECTORATE TRAIN STATION UPGRADES
Mr PAUL SCULLY (Wollongong—Minister for Planning and Public Spaces) (17:19): Anyone who
has listened to my contributions will know that I have been a fierce advocate for accessibility upgrades to stations
in the Wollongong electorate to make sure that parents with prams, people with mobility challenges and people
with shopping or luggage have good access to their local stations. On Monday I joined representatives of Transport
for NSW, Degnan Constructions, the project oversight team and local residents for the completion of the upgrade
to Towradgi station. As well as improving safety and access, the team worked on the design with the Wodi Wodi
people of the Dharawal nation to make sure that the architecture and the landscaping reflected Aboriginal
narratives and wove them into the work.
It is a really impressive upgrade—not simply a new footbridge and lifts, but great work across the entire
station precinct. There are new footpaths, landscaping and solar-powered lighting. Even the station operations
centre, a small shed-like structure just off to the side, has been built from sustainable materials. There is also
a connection to the University of Wollongong, which is only a few kilometres down the road. It is great that the
station has been upgraded. People like Jaden, who lives a couple of doors down from the station and is largely
confined to a wheelchair, will now have access to the station. They will have access to a widened concourse and
platforms, good lifts to get up and down, and additional disability parking.
The station I have mentioned the most in this place is Unanderra station. There are 72 stairs to get to the
station platform and no other options—there is not even a wobbly little ramp like there is at some other stations.
The station has been basically inaccessible to those with any sort of mobility issue. Mates of mine have sent me
photos of themselves halfway up the stairs with their luggage, saying, "We're having a little rest here because
there's too many stairs to navigate." Those days are nearly over. In the past few weeks there has been a massive
transformation at Unanderra station. The lift shafts are in, the lifts are being finalised and there is a new footbridge
going over the station. The new footbridge was opened to the public on Tuesday.
The next big change at Unanderra station will be the removal of the old footbridge—the much-maligned,
much argued about footbridge. There is famous footage of Toby Lyndon dragging his wheelchair as he clambered
on hands and knees to get up the stairs. That footbridge is going this weekend, thank goodness. No-one will shed
a tear for it. But when I spoke to the project team on Monday, they said that they are putting it in storage. Perhaps
there is a way to re-use it on another site—maybe at a golf course to cross over a road, or something like that. It
could be readapted, repurposed and re-used. There is decent steel in it—we should not just chuck it away. It is a
good, sensible option, if that can be done.
There is one last thing to come at Unanderra station, and it will come very, very soon. As the kids from
Towradgi Public School were able to do at Towradgi station the other day, people will soon be able to push the
button to call the lift. This will ensure that it is a truly accessible station upgrade. People who have participated in
a years-long community campaign will be looking forward to that day. I look forward to that moment as well. It
is a battle that should not have taken this long, but it will finally be over. A fully accessible Unanderra station is
coming soon.
LAKE MACQUARIE ELECTORATE HOUSING
Mr GREG PIPER (Lake Macquarie) (17:24): Trying to find a rental property in Lake Macquarie at the
moment is like trying to find a particular grain of sand in sandbox. Even when you do find it, expect to join a queue
of people at the inspection, and expect many of them to be angry, emotional and worrying about whether they will
actually have a roof over their heads when their current lease expires. You can also expect to pay at least
20 per cent more than you were paying just a year ago. It is at the point where I cringe every time I hear the phrase
"housing crisis" because it just does not seem to do justice to the problem. We are in a housing emergency.
Families, some with two working parents and three kids, are being forced into emergency accommodation or the
backyards of family or friends like never before. They might even be able to afford the ridiculous rents, but finding
a place to actually rent in the first place is proving nigh impossible.
Members know that this problem is not limited to Lake Macquarie. All electorates share this issue—the
scenes are being played out across the State. Whatever well-intentioned efforts have been made to fix the problem,
we are not even getting close to easing it. Rental vacancies in Lake Macquarie are at an all-time low and prices
are at an all-time high. Staff in my electorate office speak every day with people who are desperate to find a home.
The price is one thing; the availability is something else. Local charities are now providing concerning levels of
assistance to people living in cars while they wait for a rental property to become available. Those same charities
report that more and more people are turning to shared, subsidised or social housing as a means of keeping a roof
over their heads. It is true that recent interest rate hikes have slowed the local property market, but that does not
translate to more homes being available to those who need them. In fact, investors trying to keep up with mortgage
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repayments on their investment properties are in turn fuelling the rise in costs for their tenants in a cycle where
everyone seems to lose out.
Members of previous Parliaments will know that I have raised this issue many times, but the problem
continues to grow worse. As I said, this is not a localised problem. If you are trying to get a small, one-bedroom
apartment in the city at the moment, with no parking and no bells or whistles, you can expect to pay more than
$800 a week and to line up with 100 others at inspections. Public housing waiting lists in Lake Macquarie have
not changed since I last spoke about them in this place. They are amongst the longest lists in the State. This is due
in part to the large numbers of people getting out of Sydney and Newcastle—apologies to the member for
Newcastle, who is at the table—where housing is simply unaffordable to anyone earning an average wage.
Currently, almost two families are joining that queue every day. I accept that we are now dealing with something
of a perfect storm, but we are simply not opening enough umbrellas.
There are many contributing factors, but one of them is the growth of short-term holiday letting, which
took an enormous amount of housing stock out of the long-term rental market. I warned the House about this
possibility when it dithered on regulation of the short-term holiday letting industry several years ago. You cannot
expect landlords or investors not to seek the maximum return on their investments, but you also cannot take that
amount of long-term rental properties out of the market and not expect it to have a massive and dire impact on
housing availability. We were behind the eight ball then and we are even further behind now. We simply have to
find a way of building more homes.
We have to find a way to get more homes into the rental market. If that means providing incentives or
assistance to private investors, we have to look at that. What we have been doing is not working. We cannot fix
this housing emergency alone. All levels of government must work together to provide what is essentially a basic
human right of every person in this State. As I have said before, the great Australian dream is now well beyond
the reach of many people living in New South Wales, and might be better described as the great Australian failure.
Worse, our levels of homelessness, our shortage of affordable and social housing, and our efforts to protect our
most vulnerable have become the great Australian shame. We must work together to address this problem. We
can, and must, do better.
WATER SAFETY
Ms JULIA FINN (Granville) (17:28): I speak about the increasing number of drownings in New South
Wales in recent years, which was brought into stark relief when I attended the Granville Boys High School
presentation day last year. The school made a special presentation to the parents of a kid from year 7 who had
drowned in October trying to rescue a female relative. It was absolutely shocking. He drowned at Bawley Point,
at an unpatrolled beach. I was pleased that prior to the election Labor committed $23 million over four years to
increase funding to Surf Life Saving in New South Wales. That will provide important improvements to training
and equipment. But that only assists with patrolled beaches, and 56 per cent of drownings in Australia occur on
inland waterways. Surf Life Saving carries out over 3,000 rescues every year. The work that it does is amazing
and wonderful, and the Government should be supporting it to do that work even better. But in the communities
that I represent, we have a long way to go to increase the number of people who know how to swim and make
sure that they can get out of trouble when they swim at unpatrolled beaches, in rivers or even in backyard pools.
It is not enough to tell people to swim between the flags. People go away on holidays, book their hotel
room or holiday house, go to the beach and there are no flags. A lot of people who come from overseas go to the
beach and do not know how to read a rip. They see a spot with fewer waves and think that is the safest spot. In
fact, that is often the deep gutter where the rip is. There are some wonderful organisations in my area that are
trying hard to improve swimming skills amongst culturally and linguistically diverse communities. People often
come to Sydney from overseas and do not know how to swim. I commend the wonderful work that Swim Sisters
and Swim Brothers have been doing, particularly in the Muslim community, to teach people how to swim. Swim
Sisters was established first, in 2016. It plays an active role at pools and beaches, and works with different surf
clubs to make sure that women know how to swim. It is building core swimming skills, working with schools and
doing ocean swimming training.
Swim Brothers is a more recently established organisation that provides similar training to men. It has been
training about 700 people a year and last year produced nine Bronze Medallion lifesavers who are now patrolling
Wanda beach. It is doing amazing work, but we need to address this far more broadly. The previous Government
provided vouchers for learning to swim up to the age of six, which is great, but there are a lot of people aged over
six who do not know how to swim. No-one is going to rort a learn-to-swim voucher program if they know how to
swim, just because it is free. There are a lot of adults in my community who have come from overseas and cannot
swim. Our councils run some programs teaching adults how to swim, but the awareness is not great. There needs
to be a lot more promotion of that.
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School swimming also needs more support. There are schools in my electorate that do not do school
swimming. A small number of kids might compete in a swimming carnival, but it is not a sport that the school
teaches. There are schools that have swimming classes but cannot provide those classes to all the people who want
to do them because they are limited by the capacity of the buses provided by the Department of Education. Those
schools provide learn-to-swim classes on a first come, first served basis until they reach the number of kids that
fit on two buses. There is a whole range of problems, and we need holistic solutions. It is important to support
Surf Life Saving, but it is also important to make sure that people learn to swim in the first place.
Mr DAVID HARRIS (Wyong—Minister for Aboriginal Affairs and Treaty, Minister for Gaming
and Racing, Minister for Veterans, Minister for Medical Research, and Minister for the Central Coast)
(17:34): I commend the member for Granville for her private member's statement. The member for Swansea and
I are both involved with Surf Life Saving. I know the learned member sitting behind me has also been engaged in
surf lifesaving as well. We know exactly what the member for Granville is saying. People turn up to the coast,
they are inexperienced, they do not have the proper training and they get themselves into trouble. There have
unfortunately been deaths at unpatrolled beaches in the Swansea electorate. I thank the member for Granville for
highlighting this. I hope we can address this important issue as a Parliament.
WESTINVEST
Mr MARK TAYLOR (Winston Hills) (17:34): Mr Assistant Speaker, I missed the opportunity last time
to congratulate you on your new position. I speak about the WestInvest Fund, which was introduced by the New
South Wales Coalition Government in its last term of Parliament. The WestInvest Fund was announced as a
transformational program that would deliver important upgrades and services to communities across Western
Sydney. These projects will enhance communities and create jobs across Western Sydney. The Winston Hills
electorate is home to many of these projects, including upgrades to three of our local reserves, new community
facilities and improved recreational spaces. It was fantastic to see Max Ruddock Reserve in Winston Hills receive
$3.8 million for upgrades to its facilities, which includes upgrades to its 50-year-old clubhouse and a viewing
platform on top for people to watch games.
The upgrades are designed to support the growth of local sport in the area. The Winston Hills Bears
Football Club is excited about the upgrades and looking forward to the benefits they will bring to the local
community. In addition, WestInvest included $3.7 million for funding upgrades to Sue Savage Park in
Toongabbie. That reserve sits alongside Toongabbie Creek. The upgrades are multi-generational and will provide
recreational facilities, including a new youth precinct centred around a skate park and a BMX track for local
children and families. I have heard terrific feedback about the upgrades from local members of the community,
with many families telling me that they are looking forward to them being built.
The suburb of Lalor Park is also receiving upgrades to Ashley Brown Reserve. The park is set to be
refurbished, with a new playground, paths and improved seating and access. The upgrades will foster and grow
local sport in Lalor Park and Seven Hills. I have spoken to committee members from the local baseball club who
are very excited to see the upgrades. They know that the upgrades will provide great opportunities for their sport
to grow in the local area and, importantly, attract new players to their growing club. One of the major
announcements that came through the WestInvest Fund is the inclusion of a new primary school and selective
high school at the Westmead education campus. As members of this House are aware, Westmead is currently
home to the largest health precinct in New South Wales. The upgrades and new schools will go a long way to
improving Westmead and turning it into an innovative education hub for local students in Western Sydney.
During the election campaign I spoke to many families from Wentworthville, Pendle Hill and Toongabbie
that were excited about the opportunity to send their children to a selective high school. They are aspirational
families that see the value of educating their children at the highest levels available. The WestInvest Fund also
includes major upgrades to the Seven Hills community hub. The upgrades will include a new library and
community space for education, cultural events and arts in the heart of the Seven Hills town centre. The suburbs
of Seven Hills, Lalor Park and Blacktown in the Winston Hills electorate have very strong communities that will
benefit greatly from the upgrades. They will allow local organisations to benefit from modern facilities, and they
will encourage local residents to come together in a shared community space.
The Blacktown Aquatic Centre is part of the new Winston Hills electorate, and it is fantastic that this leisure
centre will receive massive upgrades and modernisation, along with new swimming facilities. The upgrades will
provide state-of-the-art facilities for the people of Lalor Park, Blacktown, Kings Langley, Seven Hills and people
right across Western Sydney. I have received great feedback about the upgrades and the opportunity for local
residents to enjoy the new Blacktown Aquatic Centre in the future.
Local residents in the Winston Hills electorate will also benefit from upgrades to Parramatta CBD's
Riverside Theatre, a regional cycleway at Finlaysons Creek in Wentworthville and Westmead, and new
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playground spaces at The Hills School in Northmead. The upgrades that have been committed through the
WestInvest Fund will create great change to communities across Western Sydney, which is the fastest growing
region in our State. It deserves modern facilities, upgraded community spaces and improved local reserves to
support its growth. The WestInvest fund provides more opportunity for communities in Western Sydney to grow
and prosper. Those upgrades will assist Western Sydney's economy and encourage further investment from
businesses and community organisations in this terrific part of New South Wales. I will make sure to keep the
new Government to account on delivering those terrific investments for Western Sydney and ensure that they are
not left behind or taken for granted.
DOMESTIC AND FAMILY VIOLENCE
Ms YASMIN CATLEY (Swansea—Minister for Police and Counter-terrorism) (17:39): Mr Assistant
Speaker, I congratulate you on your appointment. I start today by expressing my deepest condolences to the family
of Ms Dokhotaru and the family of the young boy from Riverwood. I cannot even begin to comprehend what they
must be feeling at this moment. They are terrible and tragic incidents, and I am saddened to say that those
heartbreaking deaths are not the first and nor will they be the last. I tell this House in plain terms that we have
reached a crisis point. The rates of domestic and family violence in our community are alarming. There is
absolutely no doubt that there is a domestic and family violence crisis in this State and in this country. Domestic
and family violence is one of the most under-reported crimes in our community. The connection between the
perpetrator and the victim and the long-term, often familial or spousal relationship that exists makes it difficult
for victims to come forward. Even though those crimes continue to occur behind closed doors, sadly they are so
entrenched and prevalent in our community.
During my short two months on the job as police Minister, I have been getting out and about and speaking
with the 22,000-strong membership of the NSW Police Force. During the visits police officers on the ground have
told me time and again that domestic and family violence is the number one issue for the police in their community.
The member for Wyong is here. He and I know only too well that is exactly the same conversation we are having
with our district in Tuggerah Lakes. Police officers are responding to the equivalent of one call every four minutes.
We must remember that combatting domestic and family violence is the responsibility of us all and not just at a
time of crisis. The NSW Police Force is there in that time of crisis, but we need to solve this problem before it
even comes to police intervention. We cannot arrest our way out of this problem. It starts way before then.
Police officers play an important role in combatting domestic and family violence, but so do the health,
education and community sectors. This is a complex social problem. Healthy relationships, education about
consent and respect, intervention for children and young people who are victims of violence, and making the
community aware of how it can report incidents of domestic and family violence are just a few things we need to
look at more closely. We must do better in the Parliament, in our community, in our families and in our homes.
I take the time to thank police officers across our State. Officers in our local districts and commands are
recognised for the difficult work they do every day, responding to calls for assistance where domestic and family
violence is occurring. Domestic and family violence is not a problem to be swept under the carpet and dealt with
behind closed doors. Something is seriously wrong in our society when there is so much violence and cruelty
towards so many women. Until we fix people's attitudes, domestic violence will remain a serious scourge in our
community. We will not solve this crisis until we work together on the solution, and the police will be at the table.
CLARENCE ELECTORATE FLOODING
Mr RICHIE WILLIAMSON (Clarence) (17:44): I sincerely could not agree with the Minister more:
We all must take responsibility for domestic and family violence. Members may be aware that my electorate is
recovering from a catastrophic natural disaster—the 2022 floods—not seen before in Australia. I have been
informed it was the fifth most expensive disaster in the world in 2022. The impact of the floods is still being felt
today, but we are continuing to recover and we will recover stronger and better than we were before. I am not a
doomsayer. I am a "glass half full" kind of guy. We are firmly focused on bouncing back and things are slowly
changing. In that event, some areas of the upper reaches of the Richmond and Wilson River system received over
2,000 millimetres rain—yes, two metres—which formed a wall of water that hit with such force across my
electorate it simply wiped out everything in its path.
I begin this evening by formally acknowledging the SES units of Casino, Coraki, Woodburn, Bungawalbin,
and Broadwater for their collective efforts during the floods and the recovery. I witnessed communities helping
and supporting each other in this particular national emergency. I still have residents not back in their homes
tonight. They are living in caravans, pods, tents and even cars. To say that it is challenging is beyond belief.
Businesses that are important to any community still have not reopened. In Woodburn the service station and
supermarket have not reopened. Sadly, there are many more. In Broadwater and other locations, schools are still
not open; in Coraki, people are still living in the pod village. In Casino, many roads still remain closed. I thank
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former Minister Farraway from the other place for the work he did in funding roads such as McNaughton Gap
Road. It is still closed, but the council there will recover.
Around 330 homes were completely destroyed in the Richmond Valley area and about 10 homes were
destroyed or severely damaged—no longer inhabitable—in the Clarence Valley area. The Northern Rivers
Reconstruction Corporation [NRRC] is helping with the rebuild, and a number of streams are available to help
my community. The Resilient Homes Fund is made up of two streams: the $700 million Resilient Homes program,
is co-funded by the Australian and New South Wales governments fifty-fifty. The $100 million Resilient Lands
program is fully funded by the New South Wales Government. The Resilient Homes program offers buybacks,
house raising and home retrofitting to the owners of the 330 homes that were completely destroyed or severely
damaged.
The Resilient Landa program is being delivered through the steps outlined in the Resilient Lands roadmap.
In August last year the road map began with an expression of interest, which will eventually lead to a $100 million
Resilient Lands fund that will be delivered through the Northern Rivers flood zones to help the community
recover. I look forward to the next step of that draft program being released as soon as possible. The program will
identify lands that are suitable for development across seven local government areas. The Resilient Lands strategy
is being developed and has identified suitable lands for up to flood-free 10,000 lots close to services. My
community throughout the Clarence electorate needs those available lots as soon as possible. I call on the NRRC
to move as quickly as possible to accelerate that program so that my residents in the Clarence electorate can finally
get back to some normality. After all, they are counting on all of us to ensure that some normality is restored to
their lives as soon as possible.
A-LEAGUE GRAND FINAL
Mr DAVID HARRIS (Wyong—Minister for Aboriginal Affairs and Treaty, Minister for Gaming
and Racing, Minister for Veterans, Minister for Medical Research, and Minister for the Central Coast)
(17:48): Here is a cause that the whole of New South Wales Parliament can get behind, even our sometimes Jets
fans up in the Hunter: Yes, it is A-League grand final time, and the mighty Central Coast Mariners are in the final,
the big dance, the decider to crown the kings of the A-League. It is football. It is the beautiful game. It is
New South Wales versus Victoria. It is David versus Goliath. It is the little regional club versus the rich
aristocracy. This Saturday night, the yellow and navy army believe—and we will not back down. We believe that
good will triumph over money. We believe that the club that backs youth will triumph over those with large
wallets. We believe, we believe, we believe!
On Saturday, the yellow and navy army will descend on Parramatta from our paradise for our little club's
dance with destiny. In the 2019-20 season, the same season in which Melbourne City began their run of four
straight grand final appearances, the Mariners recorded their fourth wooden spoon in five seasons. Dark times
indeed. But, in an unprecedented turnaround of fortune, in the three campaigns since, the Central Coast Mariners
have won more games than any A-League men's side—other than Melbourne City—and played finals every year.
In fact, the Mariners will be playing in their fifth grand final, but it has been 10 years since we won our first. What
a fantastic way to celebrate the anniversary of that amazing victory, back in 2013, by winning another title.
What is the secret to the Mariners' success this year? Coach Nick Montgomery has infused our club with
a sense of belief that they can compete again with the moneyed big guns in the A-League. Monty and captain
Danny Vukovic have created a great club culture on and off the field—and it shows. The Mariners Academy has
nurtured amazing local young players like Jacob Farrell, Harry Steele and Max Balard, who have cut their teeth
playing in the junior divisions at Pluim Park. And let us not forget other local homegrown talent, such as Josh
"Nizzy" Nisbet, the shortest player in the A-League at 160 centimetres tall, but winner of the Mariners Medal this
year; Sammy Silvera, with the silver boots; and Nectar Triantis, winner of the club's Newcomer Award.
The Mariners have also nurtured overseas talent that. Jason Cummings has been a revelation, booting
16 goals this season and five assists. Brian Kaltak, "the Brick Wall of Gosford", played his first A-League
professional season this year, coming from Vanuatu. There are many others, including Beni Nkololo, Marco Tulio
and James McGarry. Club chairman Richard Peil's enthusiasm and drive have entwined with Coach Monty's
analytical, tactical football brain to develop a winning culture that has stunned pundits. In almost prophetic fashion
when he took over the club, Richard said:
This is a very unique and special football market with huge potential, especially when you consider that on the Central Coast football
is the number one sport, from grassroots all the way through to the professional level.
He said:
When I first came to the Coast, I was really enthused by the opportunity that exists for football and I also saw how much hard work
and history had been established in this globally recognised club. I have already been working closely with Monty [Nick
Montgomery], Shaun [Mielekamp] and all the staff at the club and there is an exciting future ahead of us.
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How right he was. The Minns Labor Government is proud to support the Mariners, and that is why we have
committed $3.7 million to improve access to football facilities and programs on the Central Coast, particularly in
anticipation of next year when our first women's A-League team will start to compete. As a long-time club
member—from the start—and season ticketholder, it will be a great privilege to cheer on the Mariners at
Parramatta on Saturday night as the Minister for the Central Coast. Whatever the result, the Mariners are already
winners because, as the smallest club with the biggest heart, we have made another grand final, coming from the
very bottom to the top. Hopefully on Sunday morning we will be celebrating the Mariners' second grand final
victory.
TEMPORARY SPEAKER (Mr Clayton Barr): There was a bit of Ted Lasso about all of that.
PEP 11 EXPLORATION LICENCE
Mr MICHAEL REGAN (Wakehurst) (17:53): Having fought this issue for many years, I find it
offensive and extremely disappointing that the spectre of PEP 11, the dangerous proposal for drilling for gas off
the coastline from Newcastle to Manly, still hangs over us. Despite overwhelming opposition, including an
unusual amount of political will from MPs of all stripes, this project just refuses to die. Unfortunately, until it is
off the table for good, we must remain vigilant. Today I reiterate my longstanding opposition to the PEP 11
exploration licence as well as any proposal for oil or gas mining off our precious coastline.
It will come as a surprise to no-one that the people of the northern beaches are passionate about the health
of our coastline and our oceans. The coast from Newcastle to Manly contains many of the most iconic beaches in
the country, if not the world, so when we learned about the threat of proposed offshore gas drilling off our beaches,
the community rallied in opposition. What a surprise! The Surfrider Foundation first raised the alarm and built
momentum behind a community campaign against the project, including its fearless and consistent champion for
the oceans, Layne Beachley. Federal member for Warringah, Zali Steggall, took up the fight in Canberra with her
"Stop PEP 11" bill of 2021. The Federal member for Mackellar, Dr Sophie Scamps, has now joined her in
continuing to promote that bill.
I have been opposed to this project from the outset. In October 2020, as mayor of Northern Beaches
Council, we passed a motion as a matter of urgency to write to our local Federal MPs outlining our opposition, as
well as to the joint authority responsible for making the decision on approving the PEP 11 exploration licence. On
this and many other occasions, the Northern Beaches Council and I, as mayor, made our opposition to the project
crystal clear. In February 2022, wanting to secure support on the northern beaches in the lead-up to the Federal
election, Prime Minister Scott Morrison made a ham-fisted effort to stop the project. As we all now know, he
infamously secretly assumed the powers of his Cabinet colleague, resource Minister Keith Pitt, to supposedly
cancel the PEP 11 exploration licence. That botched attempt was then challenged in court by Asset Energy and
the decision overturned in February this year.
That very unfortunate series of events has led us to where we are today, without certainty that the project
will be stopped. This matter should have been sorted by now. We are in this situation because of the administrative
and leadership failures of the Federal Morrison Government. With the February decision again raising the prospect
of the project progressing, PEP 11 became a feature of the recent 2023 election campaign. Due to pressure from
Independent candidates running in northern beaches seats with their own draft bill to prohibit development
associated with offshore oil and gas drilling in New South Wales, the Liberals then proposed a bill during that
election campaign to stop gas drilling in New South Wales waters. I welcomed that race to the top in what turned
into a competition of who can oppose PEP 11 the most. I welcome the continued advocacy from my fellow
northern beaches MPs.
The PEP 11 exploration licence is back with the joint authority for determination. Minister Houssos sits
on that authority, but the Federal Minister, Madeleine King, has the final say. Not only should the PEP 11
exploration licence extension be refused, but all drilling for oil and gas off our coastline should be banned, full
stop. It presents too many risks to our marine wildlife, our beaches and our climate. We must protect our coasts
from offshore gas drilling and especially protect our food bowl on the Liverpool Plains from gas mining.
We need a gas decarbonisation plan for New South Wales that rapidly reduces demand for gas in our State.
For our climate, for our coasts, for our farmland and for our precious water resources, we must stop new gas
mining. Regrettably, there is unfinished business with this PEP 11. My community has spoken, loud and clear, as
has everybody from Newcastle to Manly. We have spoken loudly and proudly about this. We will continue to
fight it. It is time to end this destructive proposal once and for all.
CAMDEN ELECTORATE FLOODING
Mrs SALLY QUINNELL (Camden) (17:57): Like the member for Clarence before me this evening,
I too speak about the continued threat of flooding that residents of my electorate of Camden consistently face. As
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the local MP, one of my enduring priorities will be to address the risks posed to Camden by flooding and to stem
the disasters that we have seen become all too common in places like the Northern Rivers and Lismore. There are
no easy solutions to the issues that Camden faces with the threat of flooding at present and into the future.
However, we can learn the lessons from past tragedies in order to prepare for much more common freak weather
events. Camden and its surrounding areas lie upon the Nepean River and, as such, the township faces significant
risk of flood when major rain events strike.
The threat facing Camden has grown exponentially in recent years, not least due to the impacts of climate
change. In just the past year people living in parts of Camden have had to evacuate on three different occasions,
and over the past three years those same areas have had to evacuate on another two occasions, sparked by constant
heavy rainfall.
While La Niña brought much-needed and welcome relief to our farmers, who for so long had faced
crippling drought conditions, large amounts of rainfall can have devastating consequences for low-lying
communities across our State. As my good friend the member for Lismore knows all too well, we need only
remember the devastating scenes coming out of Lismore and the Northern Rivers region to realise the devastation
that flooding can cause to communities. In Lismore hundreds of homes were deemed uninhabitable after
inundation that practically buried the town under a river. I have become concerned that the same circumstances
could produce similar results in Camden, with the same devastating impact on the wider community.
I recognise the work being done by the new Minns Labor Government to mitigate the impacts of flooding
across the State, including across the Nepean River. That work is vital to ensure that our communities that so
many people rely on are safe from disasters and that we are prepared when floods strike. In truth, the community
of Camden could and should be much better prepared for flood emergencies and evacuations. Members of the
community are all too familiar with the phrases "one-in-100-years" or "one-in-20-years" flood events, as the same
flooding emergencies that used to occur infrequently are now happening much more frequently. Undeniably,
climate change is altering the frequency of devastating natural disasters. Based on those trends, it is important to
take the ambitious action required to mitigate climate change, and I am proud to be part of a Labor government
that is committed to doing so.
Like I said before, there are no easy answers or solutions to these issues. The wider area surrounding
Camden itself is known for its booming population and lack of infrastructure and services to support the growing
number of people who call the Camden region home. Over a decade of neglect of south-western Sydney by the
former Government has left the area unprepared for significant natural disaster events. We need only look back
at the flooding that occurred last year to see that, without vital infrastructure to facilitate emergency management
plans and evacuations, people can become trapped in their homes waiting out a very dangerous weather event, not
knowing whether their house and possessions will be inundated.
To evacuate Camden, residents must travel along several one-lane bridges, most of which have been
inundated several times during flooding in the past year. Those arrangements are not sustainable for a community
that is undergoing such rapid population growth, along with an already large existing population that may be
required to evacuate should another significant flood event occur. With streamlined evacuation routes and
improved management of river flood plains surrounding Camden, the community can be better prepared for
natural disaster events that may occur in the future, just like they have in the past. The best we can do for the
people living in my electorate is to prepare so that they know they will be safe if the worst were to happen.
WILLOUGHBY ELECTORATE FIRST RESPONDERS
Mr TIM JAMES (Willoughby) (18:02): I acknowledge and express the gratitude of the Willoughby
community to the courageous men and women who serve as first responders in our great State of New South
Wales. As we approach Thank a First Responder Day on 7 June, it is a fitting time to reflect upon their unwavering
dedication and selflessness and the invaluable service they provide to our communities. First responders are
among the backbones of our society, working tirelessly to ensure the safety and wellbeing of our fellow citizens.
They bravely face challenging situations every day, often putting their own lives on the line to protect others.
Their commitment and resilience in the face of adversity is truly commendable. They represent the very best of
our society.
I highlight the remarkable efforts of the Willoughby-Lane Cove SES unit based in Naremburn. That
exceptional team exemplifies the spirit of community service and plays a vital role in emergency response. Their
professionalism and dedication to safeguarding our community during times of crisis is truly commendable. I was
honoured to visit their unit last year, alongside Commissioner York, and witness firsthand their outstanding work.
I had the privilege of delivering their new medium rescue truck, which will enhance their capabilities and further
support their essential operations. It is always a pleasure to see that unit and their new vehicle on display at
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community events. Community is at the heart of that organisation, from their volunteers to their community
engagement.
I also extend my appreciation, and that of our community, to Fire and Rescue NSW and, in particular, the
Willoughby electorate's local fire stations at Willoughby and Artarmon. Their brave firefighters work tirelessly to
keep our neighbourhoods safe. It is with great concern that I note the lack of upgrades to the Willoughby fire
station. Indeed, the Willoughby fire station services a population of over 100,000 people and its last major
renovation to meet operational needs was back in 1940. Last year, together with the then Minister for Emergency
Services, I visited the station and we heard from the firies directly about the clear need for upgrades to make the
station fit for purpose. The business case submitted accommodates current resources and equipment necessary to
enable rapid response to emergency incidents. I will continue to advocate for the modernisation of this vital
facility, ensuring firefighters have the resources they need to carry out their duties effectively and safely.
Equally deserving of our gratitude are the men and women of the local police station in Chatswood and
the North Shore Police Area Command. They work diligently to maintain law and order by protecting our
community from harm. Through their proactive community engagement and commitment to building strong
relationships, the Chatswood Police Station has fostered a sense of trust and cooperation between law enforcement
and the local community. Their presence and visible patrols provide reassurance to residents, making our
neighbourhoods safer and more secure. I am proud to regularly welcome new recruits by visiting Chatswood
Police Station, where I witness their commitment to upholding justice and providing a safe environment for all
residents. Their tireless efforts deserve our utmost appreciation and support.
The dedicated members of our ambulance service also play a crucial role in our emergency response
system. The establishment of the Artarmon Ambulance Superstation, delivered by the previous Coalition
Government, is a testament to our commitment to providing the best possible care to those in need. However,
there is more work to be done. I am determined to hold the new Labor Government accountable for delivering a
new ambulance station in Cremorne, ensuring that all residents have timely access to the life-saving services they
deserve.
With Thank a First Responder Day approaching, let us express our gratitude not only through words but
also through action. It is our responsibility as elected representatives to ensure that our first responders are
equipped with the necessary resources, training and support to continue their remarkable work. Let us work
together across party lines to prioritise their wellbeing and ensure that their voices are heard. By investing in our
first responders, we invest in the safety and security of our communities, leaving a legacy of gratitude and
appreciation for generations to come. As we express our gratitude to first responders, let us also remember their
families and loved ones who support them in their noble calling. Their sacrifice and unwavering support allow
our first responders to serve with such dedication and resilience.
I urge all members of this Parliament to join me in expressing our deepest gratitude to the first responders
who serve our communities and our State. Let us never take their bravery and sacrifice for granted. May we
continue to support and invest in the resources necessary to enable them to carry out their invaluable work
effectively and safely across our great State.
TEMPORARY SPEAKER (Mr Clayton Barr): I inform members that Mr John Fowler is in the public
gallery. That is important with respect to the private member's statement that the member for Penrith is about to
give. We want to make sure that Mr Fowler is able to hear what is about to be said.
TRIBUTE TO MARGARET FOWLER
Ms KAREN McKEOWN (Penrith) (18:07): Thank you, Mr Temporary Speaker, for your indulgence
and the indulgence of the House. Vale, Margaret Fowler. Penrith and the wider community have been in mourning
following the loss of Margaret Fowler on 22 March 2023, aged 74 years. Born on 4 August 1948, Margaret was
known as a spirited resident with strong ties to Penrith, woven through her years of leadership and dedicated work
in the community. A Silverdale resident, Margaret was the familiar, smiling face at Wallacia Post Office for
decades before she retired in 2015. The quaint, village-style post office was held by the Fowler family for more
than a century. That milestone was marked with a community celebration in April 2008, when Margaret received
from Penrith City Council a framed image of the Fowler postmasters.
While Margaret may have been "officially retired", she never stopped her community work or study. A
keen historian, Margaret was part of the Penrith Historical Society. She researched Penrith's past during her studies
and in 2018 published Patronage and Opportunity: A snapshot of five postmistresses at Penrith and St Marys in
the 19th century. In her words, the post office was an integral part of the social fabric of a community, and
Margaret embodied that through her commitment to the role.
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Margaret also served as a member of the St Paul's Grammar School board for 23 years. Current and past
staff members have referred to Margaret as a visionary who was passionate about progress. She was instrumental
in the school's adoption of the International Baccalaureate middle years and primary school programs. Among her
many local endeavours, Margaret was a nurse, a real estate agent and co-founder of the Warragamba Silverdale
Neighbourhood Centre, where she provided practical support for young mothers in the community. Margaret was
the epitome of the quiet achiever. My husband, Brendan, and I attended many council functions where we enjoyed
her company immensely. I always remember her as a great listener—a skill she no doubt perfected during her
many decades at the post office.
Margaret was also a woman of deep faith and an active member of her local parish, working tirelessly to
secure the land and advocate for the building of a new Anglican church in Silverdale, Grace West, which was
opened in January 2022. On behalf of Penrith, I thank Margaret for her service to our community and I pass on
my deepest sympathies to my councillor colleague and Margaret's husband, Ross Fowler, OAM, as well as their
beloved children and their partners, John and Jeanette, Alison and Carl, and Gordon and Amy; and their
grandchildren, Gilbert, Max, Sabine and Florence. The funeral was held at St Thomas' Anglican Church at
Mulgoa. From the attendance at her final service, it was clear to see the esteem in which Margaret was held by
her local community.
Dr HUGH McDERMOTT (Prospect) (18:11): As the duty Parliamentary Secretary, I wish Mrs Fowler's
family and loved ones all the very best and give them my condolences. The member for Penrith has explained
what a wonderful person Mrs Fowler was and what great service she gave to her community. We thank her and
her family. May God bless them and keep them at this time.
TEMPORARY SPEAKER (Mr Clayton Barr): The House supports and endorses that statement.
LIONS CLUB OF RICHMOND
Ms ROBYN PRESTON (Hawkesbury) (18:12): I also know the Fowler family. Ross Fowler and I have
known each other for quite some time. I express my appreciation to the member for Penrith for speaking about
Margaret tonight. I bring to the attention of the House the good work of the Lions Club of Richmond in the
Hawkesbury electorate. The Lions Club of Richmond is a branch of Lions Clubs International, which has more
than 1.3 million members who are affectionately known as "Lions". Lions are people who get involved in
humanitarian efforts locally, nationally and internationally. The Lions Club of Richmond was formed on
12 August 1957 and some of the community projects completed in the early days included the provision of a flood
boat and motor for the police to use in rescues in the numerous floods that occurred during that period; the
provision of two ambulances; projects to assist local hospitals, schools, boy scouts and girl guides; and support
for flood and bushfire appeals.
In 2023 not much has changed in relation to the needs of the community and the unwavering support that
the Lions Club of Richmond still provides. The club has also assisted with some unusual projects, such as clearing
wattle scrub and rubbish from the Richmond cemetery. It took more than 2,000 hours using heavy machinery and
manual labour to get the task completed. The Lions Club often comes to the rescue when all else fails. One project
that comes to mind was the filling of a dangerous hole in the river in North Richmond. We have quite a few of
those now. As the decades moved along, cries for help continued to gather and the Lions Club of Richmond has
been keen to assist.
Worthy projects such as providing air conditioning for an ambulance, which was not a standard fit-out
many years ago; fundraising for playground equipment; scholarships for nurses; the construction of a mobile
chapel for the Richmond cemetery; and an electric wheelchair for disabled students could have gone unfunded
had it not been for the generosity and sincerity of the Lions Club of Richmond. In recent times the club has been
applauded for contributing to 20-seater community bus for children with disabilities to get to and from school for
special programs and excursions. Floods in Hawkesbury over recent years called on the resources of the Richmond
Lions Club, which provided feed to farmers and whitegoods to some of those who were impacted severely by the
floods.
Apart from physical assistance and manual labour, the club's fundraising efforts are often made through
the monthly Richmond markets, sausage sizzles, raffles and dinners. I see another side to the club—camaraderie
and mateship—during those dinners, community barbeques and social gatherings. The friendships forged at the
club last for years and sometimes lifetimes. This year the club was also proud to host an area final for the Lions
Australia Youth of the Year program, which went to Windsor. It is always an inspiring event. Judges engaged
with four finalists, their families and school representatives. That program elevates the youth and hones their skills
in public speaking and interview practice. It is a chance to showcase the many talented young folk that the club
interacts with.
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Many amazing Lions Club presidents and committee members have graced those roles, with too many to
name. But I place on record my appreciation of the current president, Scott Hinks, and his executive. Scott and
the team continue to provide help and support to the Hawkesbury community and beyond—all as volunteers. That
is one of the magical qualities of the locals in Hawkesbury. It does not matter what adversity they are faced with;
they will rise to the occasion and find a way to offer their support. I congratulate the Lions Club of Richmond.
For more than 65 years it has continued to inspire and assist the Hawkesbury, and we are forever grateful.
SOUTH-EAST SYDNEY BUS SERVICES
Mr RON HOENIG (Heffron—Minister for Local Government) (18:16): I examine the lingering
impacts of the former Liberal Government's decision to slash and privatise south-east Sydney's bus services. For
12 years our services have been whittled away by successive Coalition regimes that showed zero care for our
community's needs. Last year I joined 412 commuters and stakeholders who voiced their concerns through
detailed submissions to the New South Wales inquiry into the privatisation of bus services. Those submissions
painted a vivid picture of how the changes imposed by the former Government have hindered our community's
ability to reach workplaces, shops, loved ones and anywhere else we need to go safely and efficiently.
I ask members to picture waiting at a bus stop. The sun is shining down; it is a beautiful day. While thinking
about what awaits you at your destination, your enthusiasm dwindles as the minutes tick on. You squint into the
distance and see your bus. At last, the 309 is here to take you to Redfern Station. It used to take you all the way
into the city, but now it only goes as far as Redfern. Your bus approaches but it does not stop. It is full. It drives
off. You think back to the many mornings you have spent standing on Botany Road watching packed buses pass
you by.
I outline another scenario. You are retired and you have a doctor's appointment in Bondi Junction or
Eastgardens. You know there are fewer bus stops these days, but you are lucky because your bus stop survived
the cull and it is only a short walk from your home—granted, you cannot walk as fast as you used to. You have
plenty of time to catch your breath. The young man next to you curses quietly. He is on his phone and checking
for updates. As it turns out, the bus you were hoping to board has been cancelled. So you wait for the next one,
but you remember that when your bus arrives you will need to repeat this walk-wait-travel saga—perhaps more
than once—because what used to be a short 15-minute bus trip has now become an hour-long, multi-vehicle
odyssey.
Those are just some of the experiences that my residents have been raising with me. That is because the
Liberals privatised our buses and routes were cut, travel times were lengthened and the quality of services
decreased. Bus cancellations and driver shortages became rife as private operators chose profits over people again
and again. Companies predictably favour profits over residents, who are tired of being called "customers" when
they are treated more like ants in an ant farm and their very real needs, journeys and destinations are neglected.
People realised in March that the Government they had previously elected regarded them more like non-playable
characters in their game of "outsource the monopoly".
If members have ever wondered why privatised bus services experience so many cancellations, it is because
the companies contracted by this Government's predecessors had a financial incentive to cancel buses as long as
those that did run were on time. To add insult to injury, bus drivers on privatised routes like ours have endured
reduced wages and deteriorating working conditions. It is comprehensively clear that the Liberal Party's
privatisation mania has dealt Sydney a severe blow. It has also left us with an unprecedented tangle of failed
decisions and contracts to clean up.
Let me be very clear: Fixing our broken bus system will not be an easy task. Much like the tortoise and the
hare, our new Labor Government will need to take the time to do the job right rather than rushing into changes
that could hurt residents further. The Government has established the Bus Industry Taskforce as the first step
towards keeping its steadfast commitment to tackle the consequences of the Liberals Party's failed bus
privatisation agenda. Among the task force's aims are enhancing service delivery and transparency so that
commuters can hold us accountable in our endeavour to create an effective bus system.
Government members envision a bus network of the future, forging a path towards a greener and more
sustainable future for transportation. That includes improved conditions for bus drivers to enable them to continue
their invaluable work with dignity and respect. To further enshrine our values of equity and fairness, the task force
will undergo a comprehensive review of routes on a region-by-region basis and assemble a passenger reference
group to ensure that commuters' views form an integral part of each recommendation. I eagerly await the release
of the interim report in the coming months, with the final report set to be tabled next May. So buckle up, because
the ride to better bus services has already started.
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POLICE CONDUCT
Ms JENNY LEONG (Newtown) (18:21): Tonight I address the serious and distressing incidences of
excessive police use of force that have occurred in the past few weeks. A 95-year-old resident of a palliative care
home tragically died after being tasered twice by a New South Wales police officer. A 41-year-old man died after
being shot four times by New South Wales police in the middle of the day on Sydney's lower North Shore. Those
are not isolated incidents. In 2012 a young man died after he was tasered 14 times, including seven times within
51 seconds, in Sydney's CBD. A court heard that the New South Wales police officers involved used
"unnecessary, excessive and unlawful force". In 2020 a distressed 81-year-old dementia patient was forcibly
handcuffed by police at their Sydney nursing home. Police aggression and violence has repeatedly and
systemically targeted First Nations people and communities.
In my electorate of Newtown, TJ Hickey was 17 when he died while fleeing a police patrol car on his
bicycle in Waterloo in 2004. Every year at the rally commemorating his death and marching for justice, the chants
cry out, "They say accident; we say murder!" Mark Mason was capsicum sprayed, tasered and then shot dead by
police in his home in 2010. Rebecca Maher was arrested for public intoxication in 2016 and, instead of being
taken home or to hospital, was taken to a police cell where she died. Patrick Fisher died in 2018, again in my
electorate, after falling from the thirteenth-floor balcony of a housing block in Waterloo, Sydney, while being
pursued by New South Wales police.
I say some of their names in this Chamber because we cannot talk about police violence and police brutality
without also fighting for First Nations justice. As we marched to insist that black lives matter, the First Nations
activists and Elders and the thousands who marched with them in those rallies would call out, "Say Their Name!"
We say their names to remember that they have died and there has been no justice, there has been no peace and
that there are, sadly and tragically, too many racist police. There are clear and systemic issues with the excessive
use of force by the police, the excessive powers the police are given by people in this Chamber and the excessive
harm it causes in our community.
At least 474 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people have died in police or prison custody since the
Royal Commission into Aboriginal Deaths in Custody, and yet not a single officer has ever been found guilty of
murder. Time and again police investigate police, with little or no consequences ever faced, while their powers
continue to grow. Whether it is the ongoing criminalisation of protest, attempts to police our way out of
a pandemic or the overuse of sniffer dogs and searches, police continue to be handed a huge amount of expanded
powers without any of the desperately needed oversight or accountability.
When there is no accountability, the consequences are enormous. Many First Nations people and people
who experience racism understandably do not feel safe coming forward to police. Many who experience sexual
assault and domestic violence do not feel comfortable reporting it to police. Many young people and people from
migrant communities, who grow up seeing those communities overpoliced, grow up with an innate distrust of the
institution that we are repeatedly told is there to keep us safe.
The endless increases in police powers and police numbers are not making our communities safer; what
would make our communities safer is stopping the endless increases in funding and the boosting of resources to
police, and instead re-investing that money in more community and social services, more housing and more
programs, and ensuring that there is proper, independent and fully resourced oversight of police and their actions.
There is no place for tasers or guns in responding to people who are in crisis. There is no place for police chases
that are so aggressive that they result in death. But we will not see an end to that until we put an end to police
investigating police, and until there is a genuine commitment to ending deaths in custody and to respecting and
upholding every person's human rights.
REPUBLIC OF ARTSAKH
Dr HUGH McDERMOTT (Prospect) (18:25): I have spoken in this Chamber on many occasions in
support of the many local ethnic communities that call the electorate of Prospect home, and one of the communities
I have been proud to support is my local Armenian-Australian community. Members of the Armenian-Australian
community living in Prospect contribute greatly to New South Wales, but today they are hurting. Not only are
they forced to live with the scars of the past, namely the Armenian genocide, but they are also now witnessing
a modern manifestation of ethnic cleansing against their compatriots in Artsakh, or Nagorno-Karabakh.
For context, the Republic of Artsakh is an independent and self-determined Christian Armenian nation that
today is encircled by the brutal dictatorship of Azerbaijan. I was honoured to visit the picturesque Republic of
Artsakh during a delegation led by the Armenian National Committee of Australia in 2019. But only one year
after my visit, in September 2020, Azerbaijani dictator Ilham Aliyev launched 44 days of war crimes against the
innocent people of Artsakh, attempting to ethnically cleanse the region of Armenians by launching an offensive
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war into its territory. The war ended in a ceasefire, with over 70 per cent of Artsakh occupied and the Lachin
corridor remaining open for transit between the Republic of Armenia and the Republic of Artsakh. Many claimed
that to be a peace settlement. But the Azerbaijan dictatorship was not satisfied with its illegal occupation of
Artsakh and unleashed a new form of terror in December 2022, breaking the ceasefire agreement and placing the
entire population under siege. Ultimately, the autocratic dictatorship led by the same family, the Aliyevs, for some
30-plus years is attempting to suffocate the people of Artsakh—to make life so unbearable that they leave.
This House has recognised the Republic of Artsakh in a motion that I was proud to champion and that
received support from all but two members in this Chamber, from different parties, including Premier Chris Minns.
I am sure the news of the illegal blockade is extremely concerning to all members of this place, primarily because
we as a Parliament affirmed our support for democracy, freedom and human rights by recognising the Republic
of Artsakh. But today that little cradle of civilisation and its 120,000 inhabitants, including 30,000 children, are
facing an existential crisis for survival.
The blockade has completely stopped the flow of aid in the form of food, fuel, medical supplies and
humanitarian relief to Artsakh. Water reservoirs are quickly drying up, and there are reports of remote villages
with access to electricity for only two hours a day. Ninety per cent of the food in Artsakh was imported from
Armenia. As a result of this blockade, since January civilians have been given food coupons to purchase limited
supplies of pasta, buckwheat, rice, sugar, oil, fruit, vegetables and eggs. Artsakh is home to 118 educational
institutions, all of which at one point or another have been forced to shut due to the lack of electricity or heating
for children as young as five, restricting their right to an education.
The humanitarian situation is grim, extremely grim. If the international community, including Australia,
does not take immediate action, humanity will have blood on its hands. Australians did not sit by when the
Armenian Genocide was perpetrated by the Ottoman Empire 108 years ago. Instead, everyday Australians, who
learnt about the plight of the Armenians, came to the aid of victims of the genocide, rallying for funds, clothes
and food, which later culminated in the establishment of an Australian-run orphanage in Lebanon, housing some
1,700 Armenian orphans.
I stand with my community by speaking directly to the people of Artsakh from this Parliament.
I acknowledge your strength, power and resilience. No matter what the barbaric regime of Azerbaijan has thrown
at you over the past three decades, you remain committed to a life in the mountains. To Gay6ne Asribabayan, a
mother in Artsakh who just gave birth to triplets, Henry, Taro and Tiran, your family remains in our prayers. This
Parliament and the people of New South Wales will continue to stand with you, so you can one day raise your
children in a safe, free, democratic and independent Artsakh.
CANTERBURY ELECTORATE RELIGIOUS EVENTS
Ms SOPHIE COTSIS (Canterbury—Minister for Industrial Relations, and Minister for Work
Health and Safety) (18:30): As we move through the year, I have the pleasure of observing different special
religious norms that are integral to the lives of so many people in my electorate. In the past few weeks we have
had Ramadan, Easter and Eid as well as the Feast Day of Our Lady of Fatima. It was an eye-opening experience
to witness the Islamic tradition of breaking the fast, which is an immensely rewarding and spiritual experience.
The drive for self-discipline and self-improvement is a fantastic quality practised by many in my community and
I admire all my community members who observed Ramadan. It proves to be inspirational for those involved and
those who witness it.
I acknowledge the Lebanese Muslim Association and the Islamic Women's Welfare Association as vital
community groups partaking in these customs and reaching out to many in our community and across the world.
In particular, I have witnessed a distinctive factor in the Muslim community, which is charity. It is enshrined at
the foundational level of their belief. In this regard, I acknowledge Human Appeal Australia, which facilitated
donor-funded aid to more than 27 regions worldwide. I also acknowledge Muslim Women's Australia for the
incredible work it does, particularly by supporting families by not only bringing families together but also
outreaching to people who are vulnerable and in need.
I extend my heartfelt congratulations to Our Lady of Fatima Church in Kingsgrove on recently organising
a truly memorable feast day celebration. It was a pleasure to join the Premier to celebrate with the local
community. This auspicious occasion not only brings joy and spiritual fulfillment to the community but also
fosters unity and camaraderie among its parishioners. The feast day celebration at Our Lady of Fatima Church
stands as a testament to the strong sense of community and faith that prevails in Kingsgrove. It is through the
collaborative efforts of individuals and organisations that such cherished events come to fruition. As very proud
representatives of Kingsgrove, the Premier and I consider ourselves incredibly fortunate to be part of a community
that holds such profound traditions and values.
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The feast day celebration at Our Lady of Fatima Church serves as a reminder of the rich cultural and
religious heritage that permeates our local area. I extend my warmest congratulations to Our Lady of Fatima
Church, the school, our Very Reverend Hamilton, Casey, Ureta, Bishop Terry Brady and Bernadette Basil, who
is a fantastic educator and our guide a few weekends ago, and all the volunteers, the stallholders, the sponsors,
and the entire Kingsgrove community. May the blessings of this feast day continue to inspire and uplift all who
participate.
I take this opportunity also to acknowledge all places of worship in my electorate of Canterbury. I am
proud of the many successful religious celebrations that have taken place in the Canterbury electorate, bringing
together people of different backgrounds and faiths to celebrate. These events promote unity and harmony and
they are a true testament to the strength and diversity of our Canterbury community. As we move forward, I am
committed to continuing to support not only the events, festivals and gatherings but also one thing that we missed
during COVID, which was coming together as a community.
As a community, we can promote understanding and respect. What I love about our community is that in
one room and at one festival you can have somebody of the Greek Orthodox faith, the Muslim faith, the Maronite
faith, the Jewish faith, the Anglican faith and the Catholic faith with one objective, which is to bring our families
and communities together and work for the common goals of unity and strength to make sure that we build better
resilience in our community and in our children.
ACTIVE KIDS PROGRAM
Ms STEPHANIE DI PASQUA (Drummoyne) (18:35): Today I speak about the Active Kids rebate and
the positive impact this initiative has had on local kids who play grassroots sports in my community. In the
Drummoyne electorate over 60,000 vouchers have been created since 2018 and over 12,000 vouchers were issued
in 2022 alone. This year over 7,000 vouchers have been created in less than six months. Last year over 76 per cent
of the eligible population used the vouchers and participated in this initiative. This is a significant uptake for a
government program and shows that Active Kids is valued by my community. The vouchers have been evenly
split, almost fifty-fifty, between male and female participation in local sport. They have been used for soccer,
dancing, swimming, netball, basketball, martial arts, rugby league, gymnastics, AFL, tennis—and the list goes on.
Sport is about fair play, having fun, fostering the critical role of physical activity and instilling healthy
lifestyle habits in children. Sport teaches values of patience and camaraderie. It builds our community fabric
because it rises above gender and race. It allows people to form friendships both on and off the field. With the
rising cost of living and immense pressures on the household budget, the Active Kids vouchers provide essential
relief to families and play a critical role in making local sport accessible to children all over the State who may
not be able to participate without them. Several sporting clubs have contacted me about their concerns that the
Active Kids vouchers will not be extended beyond 30 June 2023. Joe from the Balmain Junior Touch Association
especially expressed how vital the Active Kids voucher program is to the families of its nearly 1,600 junior
players. In his letter to me, Joe writes:
It is vital to express that now is not the time to be withdrawing such a successful cost of living relief to NSW families, which has the
added bonus of helping kids get active and healthy, supports their wellbeing, and delivers all the other benefits that participating in
sport and active recreation provides.
Similar sentiments were shared with me when I spoke to club members from Massey Park Golf Club, Little
Athletics, and local AFL clubs, which rely on the vouchers to help their young members participate in their chosen
field of sport. I thank those club members and volunteers for sharing their experience with me. Active Kids
vouchers help to make sport more accessible to families and help to promote different activities for our youth,
especially for girls and young women.
Female participation in sport is growing locally, and it is important to continue this trend in years to come.
The Australian Institute of Health and Welfare states that 70 per cent of children fail to meet physical activity
guidelines, which can lead to poorer academic outcomes and increased childhood obesity rates. Active Kids has
been an extremely popular and successful measure implemented by the former Coalition Government, giving
children an opportunity to participate in sport and helping with their physical and mental health.
I advocate for the continuation of the Active Kids vouchers for their ability to remove obstacles and barriers
to sport. I will be supporting a petition to extend the Active Kids vouchers beyond 30 June 2023. The vouchers
support local kids and, importantly, support local sporting clubs. I call on the Government to support Active Kids
for the benefits the vouchers provide local children. I also take this opportunity to thank all involved in
coordinating local sport in my community for their time, dedication and hard work.
Mr JIHAD DIB (Bankstown—Minister for Customer Service and Digital Government, Minister for
Emergency Services, and Minister for Youth Justice) (18:40): There has been a lot of discussion about Active
Kids vouchers over the past few weeks. I remind members that whilst the Opposition describes Active Kids as
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a big project, it was never funded beyond a particular date. There has been a lot of discussion about that. To
provide clarity, the program itself has not been cut by this Government; there is simply no funding for it in the
budget beyond 30 June.
VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN
Ms LYNDA VOLTZ (Auburn) (18:40): Today I acknowledge one of the beautiful souls of the Auburn
electorate. Michaela Dunn was also known as Mikki to her family and friends. Mikki was a daughter,
a granddaughter, a sister and a niece. She was a sportswoman, a swimmer, a student and very much the girl next
door. She was also a traveller and explorer: one of our talented young women with itchy feet who felt as at home
exploring Europe as exploring Lidcombe. She was greatly loved by her family and friends. She was one of us.
However, this morning when I read the newspaper, I felt not sadness but anger when I saw an article on page 3 of
The Australian and the headline that accompanied the story about the great loss of Mikki to our community.
Mikki, along with two other women, was attacked. Mikki was murdered by a person who went there with
the intent to commit this horrendous crime. One other woman was also stabbed but survived the knife wound.
A third woman was lucky to escape the knife-wielding assailant with no injury. Yet, of all involved in the crime
which took Mikki's precious life, unfortunately it is Mikki's occupation alone that some in the media have decided
to single out. Why? The headline in The Australian completely depersonalises Mikki. It makes her no longer the
beloved daughter, the fun sister, or the adventurous traveller, but an invisible entity behind a cliched occupation.
The Manichean judgement behind it is obvious: it reduces a cherished soul to nothing but a cheap headline.
The headline ignores the pain of the mother, the sister, the aunty and the community who have lost someone
they adore. It inflicts another humiliation on the memory of Mikki, and the newspaper staff should hang their
heads in shame. Language is important and our media are beholden to ensure that women are treated with the
respect they deserve—none more so than Mikki. While it is easy to argue that it is just one headline, I would
question the journalist involved. Why was it necessary to identify Mikki's employment? Three women were
attacked that day. They had one similarity amongst them: they were all women. They were attacked simply for
being women.
This week alone there have been two more appalling tragedies: the murder of a three-year-old child at the
hands of their father, and the murder of Tatiana Dokhotaru at the hands of a man who already had a domestic
violence order against him. The violence goes on and police and support services continue to be overwhelmed.
But it is beholden on others to ensure we continue to work towards the elimination of violence against women.
We know that language matters: that threats, shaming, deprecation, comments on appearance and sexist language
and jokes precede violence against women. While a headline, a joke, or an individual act of sexism can go
unquestioned, there continues to be an acceptance of the denigration of women, an acceptance of violence, and an
ongoing climate of fear and insecurity, mainly for women and girls.
Mikki should have been safe—as should Tatiana, as should Lisa Fenwick, as should Shereen Kumar.
Unfortunately, they were not. I would ask the journalists to put themselves in the shoes of Mikki's mother, who
has lost the adored daughter she loved. Why write such an unnecessary headline about such a cherished soul? Do
they have any concept of the pain they cause? The image we should remember of Mikki—that I want everyone to
take away today—is of the bright, talented young woman full of promise, a sunflower looking to the sun, brimming
with life and love. We should remember the mother who loved her. We should remember the family and friends
she loved and held close. We should never forget Mikki, the person, who was one of us. We should respect all
those who hold her dear.
ENERGY EFFICIENCY
Mr ALEX GREENWICH (Sydney) (18:45): My constituents want the energy network to quickly
transition to 100 per cent green renewable power to prevent the most devastating impacts of climate change. It is
essential that changes to generation, transmission and storage are combined with energy efficiency and
electrification to reduce demand and enable all power to be clean and green. But energy efficiency and
electrification are largely being left to individuals to implement. We urgently need action, planning and targets to
achieve outcomes and ensure everyone can reduce their energy use at home, regardless of means.
Making homes more energy efficient not only reduces demand on the power system but also reduces
household costs. I welcome agreement between the Commonwealth, States and Territories to increase energy
efficiency standards in the Nationwide House Energy Rating Scheme [NatHERS] to seven stars, commencing in
October. Seven-star homes use 25 per cent less energy to heat and cool than six-star homes, cutting bills, demand
and greenhouse gas emissions. But we need to go further than seven stars and ban gas connections in all new
homes. Gas is a fossil fuel that produces massive greenhouse gas emissions and is vulnerable to global market
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impacts. Current work to replace liquid gas with renewable alternatives provides no guarantees and we need to
urgently prepare for a future of electrification.
Connecting to gas now will only delay making homes sustainable while setting home owners up for
significant costs to disconnect in the future. New gas connections are especially problematic for apartment
buildings, which will require complex and costly efforts to decommission and install alternatives. Importantly,
work needs to go beyond decarbonising new homes because most people live in homes that have already been
built. The vast majority of existing homes are below a three-star NatHERS rating. We urgently need policy and
investment to update these homes to prevent massive bills and unhealthy homes and to bring forward greenhouse
gas reductions. Renters have the least means to make their homes energy efficient as they cannot make structural
changes to the properties they live in. We need mandatory minimum energy efficiency standards for all rental
homes.
In 2019 the Council of Australian Governments [COAG] Energy Council agreed to establish a national
framework for minimum energy efficiency standards in rental homes. Victoria and the Australian Capital Territory
have commenced work to adopt provisions. But across New South Wales, most rental homes remain expensive,
uncomfortable and unhealthy. Many changes are simple and can be easily adopted without significant burden on
property owners. Measures like insulating ceilings, providing window coverings, sealing doors and windows and
providing efficient heating and cooling are examples of ways to quickly update rentals so that they are healthy,
efficient and affordable.
The Government should commence a program to retrofit all public housing properties to the highest energy
and water efficiency standard possible, including installing solar panels. As some of the poorest in our community,
public housing tenants have the least means to make their homes energy efficient, with many unable to even make
basic efficiency choices like purchasing energy efficient small appliances, adding to the drain on energy bills.
Decommissioning gas in rentals should be part of the State's energy transition plan. As the price of gas increases,
those who can will disconnect, increasing the cost of delivering gas through the network. This in turn will lead
even more people to disconnect, with further price rises. Those with the least means will be the last to leave,
paying inflated prices that they cannot afford. They will also be at risk of losing services before they can arrange
alternatives. We must prepare for this scenario and protect the most vulnerable through a program that provides
subsidies and incentives to decommission gas.
The cost of investment in a new, decarbonised electricity network is being borne by consumers while
project proponents are set to make huge profits from new renewable generation, transmission and storage.
Consumers should not be forced to subsidise infrastructure that will produce private windfalls, and the
Government needs to establish a more equitable share of costs. Everyone should have access to affordable and
sustainable energy. I call on the new Government to work to achieve equitable access to energy efficiency and
electrification, and healthy, affordable homes for all.
MIRANDA ELECTORATE
Ms ELENI PETINOS (Miranda) (18:49): There are seven words for "love" in the Greek language: eros,
which is romantic or passionate love; philia, which is affectionate or friendly love; storge, which is unconditional
or familial love; agape, which is selfless, universal love; ludus, which is playful or flirtatious love; pragma, which
is committed, long-lasting love; and philautia, which is self-love. I speak tonight about the concept of philia. In
his best-known work on ethics, Nicomachean Ethics, Aristotle notes that philia is expressed variously as loyalty
to friends, family and community, and that it requires virtue, equality and familiarity. It is the love and happiness
shared between two things, and it is sent out as much as it is received. It also speaks of connections of affection,
fondness, liking or even goodwill. It is the deep love I have for the people of Miranda and the strong connection
I feel for my electorate—my friends, my family and my community.
It has been an honour and a privilege to represent this electorate for the past eight years. Tonight, I say
thank you from the bottom of my heart to the people of Miranda for giving me the incredible opportunity to
continue as their local representative in the Fifty-Eighth Parliament of New South Wales. I am truly humbled.
Over the past two terms, the Liberal Government invested in the local community by upgrading the Sutherland
hospital, redeveloping St George Hospital, building the M6 stage one, improving local roads, upgrading local
schools, improving the T4 and T8 train services, and investing in more frontline staff like doctors, nurses and
teachers.
Specifically, some key achievements are the $62.9 million redevelopment of Sutherland hospital's
emergency department, general medical unit and expanded critical care medical unit; the $81.5 million Sutherland
hospital operating theatre redevelopment; $7 million for a dedicated MRI machine at Sutherland hospital; the
Caringbah ambulance superstation; the Como station accessibility upgrade; the Jannali station accessibility
upgrade; the new commuter car park at Como, which is still in progress; the new school hall at Jannali East Public
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School; the Alfords Point Road upgrade; the Princes Highway upgrade at Kirrawee and Sylvania; the extended
clearways on Taren Point Road; the Linden Street upgrade, which is still in progress; nearly $8 million for
Seymour Shaw Park, which is still being constructed; and the removal of three abandoned barges in Woolooware
Bay. It has been quite a journey.
I will continue to fight for Miranda to ensure that our community and the Sutherland shire get their fair
share. I am here for my community—each and every one of you. To the people of the Miranda electorate, I will
continue to be there for you. I will listen. I will not let you down. I will never truly be able to convey with words
the love, the philia, the affection that I have for our community. I will do my very best to repay your trust in me
and be there, though my actions, for each and every one of you.
NATIONAL PARKS AND WILDLIFE SERVICE
COOMA AGED-CARE WORKERS
Mr STEVE WHAN (Monaro) (18:53): Tonight I express my support for two groups of workers in the
Monaro electorate that, over the past couple of weeks, have been given reason to feel under threat and to feel less
safe in their workplaces than they ought to. In doing so, I acknowledge that in any area of policy, particularly
controversial areas of policy, people have the right to have a different view and to express that different view.
With any area of service, they have the right to express dissatisfaction with that service. But they do not have a
right to turn that into personal attacks or actions that lead workers—people who are just doing their jobs—to feel
threatened in doing their jobs.
I talk first about an incident that occurred last Friday in Jindabyne, when a person who was campaigning
against the culling of brumbies deposited a brumby's head in the foyer of the National Parks and Wildlife Service
in Jindabyne. That action is absolutely disgusting. It is universally seen as being threatening to the people in that
building, and it cannot be condoned by any person, regardless of their views on the brumby cull that is currently
underway. I recognise that it evokes passionate emotions in many people. There are many people who love the
brumbies and do not want to see them culled. I am not one of those people; I say that up-front. But regardless of
one's views, there is no reason to make the people who work at the National Parks and Wildlife Service feel
threatened in the work they are doing. They are going to their job and doing what is asked of them. The people
who set the policy are not the people who are in that building doing that job. As their local member, I say to those
workers that they have my 100 per cent support in the work they do. They deserve to feel safe. They are a valued
part of the community. I know the vast majority of the people in the community appreciate the work they do to
preserve our wonderful Kosciuszko National Park.
I also speak about the aged-care workers in Cooma whom we have heard much about in the past couple of
weeks due to the tragic incident there involving Clare Nowland. Again, people have a right to ask questions about
services and standards of aged care, but they do not have a right to do make it personal. Our aged-care workers
do a wonderful job. They often do it in trying circumstances, and they often do it needing more resources. We all
know that. They need our support in doing that job. They care deeply for the people who are in their care. Once
again, we have heard reports in the past few weeks that people working in the sector have not felt as safe as they
should in going about their work. I thank them for doing a difficult job and for doing it to the best of their ability
with the resources they have available. As their local member, I support them 100 per cent.
I say to the people who think they should go outside those boundaries that, if I know who they are, I will
not be talking to them. I am happy to listen to people who are willing to present alternative views in a sensible
way, in a constructive way and in a way that does not seek to demonise those who do not agree with them.
THE HILLS RELAY FOR LIFE
Mr MARK HODGES (Castle Hill) (18:57): I speak about the Relay for Life that was recently held in
the Hills shire in my electorate. I recently attended the Hills Relay for Life, which was held on 21 May and
22 May. The relay was held at the Castle Hill Showground in my electorate. It was the twenty-second time the
event had been held. The opening ceremony of the event was held at 9.00 a.m. on Saturday 21 May. The member
for Kellyville and I were both present. I know that he supports the relay. The chair indicated that the target this
year was to raise $250,000. That target was exceeded. The dedication and commitment of the Castle Hill
community was further evident at the "Hope" candlelight vigil, which I attended at 6.00 p.m. The candlelight vigil
is a deeply personal ceremony where people in attendance can celebrate the survival or reflect and remember the
loss of someone special.
The morning after the event there were many exhausted members of the community who had spent the
night at the showground. Support for the event within my electorate was evident, and it was inspiring to see all
the people who were there. The relay raises vital funds for the Cancer Council's research, prevention and support
services. It is an important chance for the community to recognise and support cancer survivors and carers. The
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relay is an incredible overnight event where the community comes together as friends and colleagues to join a
worthy cause, giving back to those in need and fighting cancer. The Relay for Life committee within the Hills for
the past 22 years has raised in excess of $5 million for cancer research and support. The fundraising by the Hills
Relay for Life committee is absolutely inspirational and amazing. Cancer impacts us all, but with community
groups such as the Hills Relay for Life we are fighting back.
It is estimated that 162,000 new cancer cases will be diagnosed this year. That is on average approximately
444 per person per day. That is why events such as Relay for Life are important. The Hills Relay for Life could
not happen without the relayers, who register and raise funds. There were 948 relayers this year. I congratulate
the top 12: Joel Bowmer, with $8,664; Anthony Ellison, with $5,398; Feona Henness, with $5,102;
Amy Stephenson, with $4,785; Joel Sedger, with $4,705; Tanya Burston, with $4,659; Sharon Capizzi, with
$4,643; Cheryl Hill, with $3,858; Jaime Berglin, with $3,832; Matt Crapp, with $3,686; Andrew Kelly, with
$3,577; and Andrew Bowmer, with $3,218. There were also 97 teams registered. I will not read out their particular
amounts.
The committee is made up of 16 very hardworking people: chairperson Lisa Carruthers, Jamie Berglin,
David Hand, Ruth Didsbury, Katie Didsbury, Fiona Hennes, Jenny Glover, Bev Jordan, Lynne Pike, Angela Pike,
Michelle Patterson, Bryan Mullan, Michelle Byrne, Karen Cunningham, Denise Daynes and Renae Dean. As at
today, the total raised this year is $289,187. Relay for Life will have its annual ball this Saturday night, and if a
bit more money is raised the total will exceed $300,000. That will make them the number one relay team in the
country. At the closing ceremony Chairperson Lisa Carruthers said, in relation to the planning, "It is not a weekend
event; it is a very long haul of nine or 10 months to plan this event." I am proud to represent an area of our State
that has such amazing volunteers. I thank Relay for Life in the Hills area for its service.
TRIBUTE TO ROBERT MANN
Mr RON HOENIG (Heffron—Minister for Local Government) (19:01): It is with considerable
sadness that I advise the House of the passing of Bob Mann, a former ALP Mayor of Botany, who passed away
recently at the age of 81. Bob served as an alderman on the then Botany Municipal Council from 1974 to 1983.
He was mayor in 1974, 1976 and 1980. He was relatively young for mayors in those days, being in his early 30s,
but was responsible for taking advantage of the funding made available by the Whitlam Government. During his
leadership of the council the Whitlam Government funded in Botany the first long day care centre in New South
Wales. Bob organised for the land to be donated by the council. He also set up the first play groups. He established
Botany Community Care, ably supported by his then wife, Kerry Mann, which was a forerunner of Home and
Community Care.
During his time as Mayor of Botany, Port Botany was planned and the first shots were fired in the
environmental battles that I subsequently inherited. An alderman on the council at the time said it was a major
learning curve for all of them, including then State members Bob Carr and Laurie Brereton. As I indicated, Bob
passed at the age of 81. I had not seen him for many years, and he had been quite ill prior to his passing. He was,
in his 80s, still running 10 kilometres regularly. According to his son Aaron, he was assaulted on one of his runs
and suffered his debilitating illness. Bob Mann was the secretary of the Mascot branch of the ALP when
I transferred to that branch, having joined in Wagga Wagga in 1975. Bob encouraged me to join my first
community protest and also urged me, at a very young age, to run for election to Botany Council in 1980.
Bob was the secretary and chief executive of Broadway Credit Union. He could serve only one year as
mayor and had to focus on his employment. He stood down as mayor in 1981, which is when I was elected. Even
prior to my election to the council, Bob Mann was a mentor. Many of the initiatives I have been credited with in
the 30 years I served in that office were at his instigation and achieved because of the learning I had at Bob's feet.
Bob was elected in 1974 after the notorious Botany Council cases that some might remember, when various
aldermen made allegations in relation to some News Limited land in Botany. So to achieve what he achieved
during those difficult times was significant.
His then wife, Kerry Mann, was a teacher at Mascot Public School for many years. I have not seen Kerry
in recent years, but I know she is an ardent follower of my Facebook page and always took a keen interest in the
local community. I am so sad to hear of Bob's passing. I extend my condolences to his sons, Aaron and Luke, and
take the opportunity, as a Minister of the Crown, to belatedly thank Bob on behalf of the State of New South
Wales for his lengthy and committed service to the people of Botany.
RYDE ELECTORATE
Mr JORDAN LANE (Ryde) (19:06): I express my deepest gratitude to the extraordinary volunteers who
dedicated their time, energy and unwavering support to my election campaign. Their tireless efforts ensured our
success in retaining Liberal leadership in Ryde. It is the first time in over 73 years that a retiring MP for Ryde was
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immediately succeeded by someone from the same party. I begin by extending my heartfelt thanks to the members
of our dedicated campaign committee. Michael Evangelidis, my campaign director, exemplified exceptional
strategic acumen, guiding our team through a long and demanding campaign. Alongside Frank Moshfeghi,
David Schultz, Sarah McFayden, Jacob Gormley, Gary Patni, John Hassarati, Peter Pease, Jerry Yessaeian,
Claire Elias and Mary Yedelian, we formed a formidable campaign committee capable of making the impossible
possible. I am eternally grateful for the unwavering support of my council colleagues throughout the campaign:
Mayor Sarkis Yedelian; the deputy mayor and my State electoral conference [SEC] president, Shweta Deshpande;
and councillors Trenton Brown, Justin Li, Daniel Han and Sophie Lara-Watson. Their dedication to our
community is the bedrock upon which our local movement is based.
I also extend my thanks to the members of the mighty Epping-Eastwood Young Liberals, who consistently
punch above their weight. I thank Alex Lara-Watson, Keenan Smith, Evie O'Brien, Leane van Essen,
Samantha Murray, Jordan He, Fred Bekker, Jacob Masina, Jasmin Ahlawat, Jem Macpherson, Aarzu Patni,
Peter Qian, Tim Pinzone, Cameron Last, James Camilleri and Priya Pagaddinnimath. Our future is bright with
them in it. I thank SEC executive Chris Galloway, Dee Brown, Hassib Elias and Stephen Hunt for the many late
nights, emails and Zoom calls. It takes a lot of effort, and I express my deep gratitude for their hard work in those
roles.
Several of my parliamentary colleagues made special trips to the electorate, including of course the former
Premier and member for Epping, as well as the member for Cootamundra, the member for Oatley and Natalie
Ward from the Legislative Council. But I am particularly grateful to my friend the member for Hornsby for his
help, support and guidance along the way. Through his conviction, we prosecuted many of the issues that were
crucial to our success in Ryde, for which I am eternally grateful. Some went above and beyond the call of duty,
and I single out the limitless hours put in by Liam Bowden and Keanu Arya—every morning, every night and
everything in between. James Wallace and Trent Zimmerman not only contributed on the campaign frontline but
also supported me with wise and considered counsel from the very beginning. They are forces to be reckoned
with.
I also thank the team at Liberal Party HQ, in particular State Director Chris Stone, Adelaide Cuneo, Patrick
Blacker, Luke Nayna, Dorina Ilievska and Ian Zakon for their tireless support behind the scenes. The campaign's
success would not have been possible without the dedication of the booth captains and volunteers, many of whom
were also part of the campaign committee, including Kathy Tracey, Chris Moujalli and Liz Ryu.
I extend my deepest appreciation to our incredible volunteers, who worked tirelessly on so many aspects
of the campaign: Peter He, Aiden Lee, Lachlan Moses, William Olive, Artin and Nora Etmekdjian, Mitch Tracey,
Marilyn Methven, Carla Kassab, Rosemary Mah, Elaine Budd, Leechen Li, Janine Orban, Ben Binskin, Rose
Torossian, Cleo Arya, Connor Burke, Jacob Koo, John Dixon, Satvik Sharma, Gisele Kapterian, Granville
Schokman, Kevin Lim, Razmik Aghajanian, Vahe Hamparian, Beryl Johnson, Matthew Wu, Kaitlin York, Simon
Kennedy, Anthony Ching, Kevin Pagaddinnimath, Deepak Chauhan, Anne Moran, Sabi Singh, Diana Landor,
Richard Lu, Amjad Khanche, Richard Ford, Arturo Puno, Hosni Sidrak, Mark Lee, Brad, Peta and Rebecca Collis,
and countless others. Their dedication, enthusiasm and tireless efforts have made an indelible impact on our
campaign. I thank the many community leaders, especially Roseanna Gallo, Angelina Bonifacio, Hugh Lee, Joey
Chan, Soraya Raju and members of the Armenian National Committee. For some, this was the first campaign they
ever worked on. I hope it will not be the last.
Never before has the role of scrutineering been so crucial than in Ryde. I thank Scott Farlow, Felicity
Wilson, Jacqui Munro, Kellie Sloane, Michael Photios, Maria Kovacic, Chris Rath, Alister Henskens, Mark
Hodges, Matt Cross, Rory Amon, Dave Sharma, Andrew Constance, Mitch Potts, Fiona Scott, Rachel Merton,
Sue Carter, Bonnie Marshall, David Nouri, Jack Abadee, Reece Nuttall, Jack de Henin and many others for
making every vote count, and especially for finding those four extras in the recount. I make special mention of
Peter Bardos, who undertook the difficult task of scrutineering pre-poll on election night. I thank my predecessor,
Victor Dominello, and his senior electorate officer, Margaret Lee, for taking that chance on me all those years
ago. And without the efforts of each and every volunteer, I certainly would not be standing here today.
Lastly, I thank my family, who have been a source of unconditional support throughout every high and
low. For believing, even when I did not, I thank my parents, Janelle and Richard; my sisters, Madison and Kendall;
my partner, Natalie; and her mother, Molly. My final thankyou is to the people of Ryde. Serving the community
that has given me every opportunity is the greatest honour of my life, and I will not take this opportunity for
granted. To conclude, I simply say that I love Ryde.
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Bills
FIRST HOME BUYER LEGISLATION AMENDMENT BILL 2023
Returned
TEMPORARY SPEAKER (Mr Clayton Barr): I report receipt of a message from the Legislative
Council returning the bill without amendment.
The House adjourned, pursuant to resolution, at 19:13 until Tuesday 20 June 2023 at 12:00.
Written Community Recognition Statements
MARK GRIFFIOEN
Mr MICHAEL KEMP (Oxley)—I am delighted to announce the appointment of Mark Griffioen as the
new General Manager of Bellingen Shire Council. Mark will commence his work in this critical role commencing
in early July 2023 and has been appointed on a five-year performance-based contract. Mark has 27 years of
experience in Local Government across New South Wales, Queensland, the Northern Territory, and New Zealand.
He brings a wealth of knowledge and expertise to his new role having held executive positions at West Arnhem
Shire Council, Wagga Wagga City Council, Scenic Rim Regional Council, and Timaru District Council. As the
Chief Executive Officer at West Arnhem Shire Council, Mark demonstrated exceptional strategic thinking,
stakeholder engagement, and community-focused leadership. His achievements included implementing
innovative sustainability initiatives, fostering economic development, and enhancing governance practices. These
accomplishments, along with his commitment to transparency and accountability, align closely with the vision
and values of Bellingen Shire Council. Mark has impressive academic qualifications. He is a Fellow of the
Certified Practicing Accountant Program, (CPA Australia) and holds a Bachelor of Financial Administration from
the University of New England. I would like to congratulate Mark and I look forward to working with him into
the future.
JOY MCKEAN
Mr MICHAEL KEMP (Oxley)—I'd like to pay my respects to the Australian songwriter and musician
Joy McKean, wife of the late Kempsey-born Slim Dusty. Joy passed away, aged 93, on May 25 following a long
battle with cancer. She died peacefully, surrounded by her family. Joy said when she first starting writing music
in the 1950s the industry was rarely credited women for song writing – undaunted she became a trailblazer and
remembered as a pioneer in Australian music. Joy was a multi-award winning songwriter and musician who wrote
many of Slim's most famous songs and won the first Golden Guitar awarded at the Tamworth Country Music
Festival for 'Lights on the Hill'. The song was inspired by Joy's experience towing a heavy caravan up the
then-notorious Devil's Pinch, near Guyra, on the Northern Tablelands. Joy's musical partnership with Slim
produced over 100 albums, sold more than 8 million albums and earned 45 Golden Guitars. She was his manager,
ran the business and most importantly loved and raised the family. Joy is survived by her children, Anne
Kirkpatrick and David Kirkpatrick, four grandchildren, and six great-grandchildren. Joy leaves and incredible
musical legacy and my condolences to Joy's family and loved ones.
NATIONAL SORRY DAY
Mr MICHAEL KEMP (Oxley)—The communities of Oxley held a range of commemorative events for
National Sorry Day, on 26 May to remember and acknowledge the mistreatment of Aboriginal and Torres Strait
Islander people now known as 'The Stolen Generations' who were forcibly removed from their families and
communities. The NSW Coalition Government responded to the Unfinished Business, (the NSW Parliament
General Purpose Standing Committee's report on its inquiry into Stolen Generations reparations, was tabled in
Parliament on 23 June 2016, making 35 recommendations towards reparations) delivering a comprehensive
package towards reparations for Stolen Generations survivors and their families including: The NSW Stolen
Generations Reparations Scheme and Funeral Assistance Fund; and Funding for collective healing initiatives
including a Stolen Generations Advisory Committee to provide a forum for Stolen Generations survivors to have
greater input into the decisions that impact on them and provide advice on the implementation of the NSW
Government's response. I'd like to recognise, acknowledge, and pay my respects to all the indigenous families,
First Nation groups and all the people in my community, who continue to be affected by trauma and loss caused
by forced removals of children from families from 1910 to the 1970s.
SENIOR CONSTABLE EMMA BYRNE
Mr PHILIP DONATO (Orange)—I rise to recognise Senior Constable Emma Byrne of the Orange
Electorate. As a young Constable in the early stages of her career with NSW Police, Emma Byrne found herself
in the line of fire during the notorious 2014 Lindt siege in Sydney, where several patrons were held hostage under
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terrifying circumstances with two ultimately and tragically losing their lives. Faced with no alternative, and a
threat from the gunman holding hostages at gunpoint in the café, Senior Constable Byrne was given an ultimatum
by the gunman. She was ordered to remove the police vehicle parked near the café, with a warning the gunman
would open fire after two minutes. Showing extraordinary bravery, Senior Constable Byrne ran as fast as she
could through the 'hot' or firing zone, to comply with the gunman's wishes. Senior Constable Byrne showed
extraordinary courage on that day, and drawing on the skills she acquired during a police training she was able to
comply with the gunman's wishes, preventing more bloodshed. For her outstanding bravery, Senior Constable
Emma Byrne was recently presented with a NSW Commissioner of Police Citation recognising outstanding
services, bravery and merit in the performance of duty.
BILL AND JANE FAIRGRIEVE
Mr PHILIP DONATO (Orange)—I rise to recognise husband and wife Bill and Jane Fairgrieve, of
Orange. This couple have made an extraordinary contribution to the community of Orange, both as individuals
and as a couple. Most recently they have each reached a milestone 6,000 hours of volunteer shifts at Ronald
McDonald House Charities Central West, located in Orange. Bill and Jane volunteer on the overnight shift at the
house and are there with a warm greeting and providing comfort to families at all hours of the night who have had
a baby, child or adolescent arrive at Orange Hospital under emergency circumstances as they face a
life-threatening or serious medical condition. As well, Bill and Jane have been enthusiastic members of the Orange
Runners Club, contributing by holding down various executive positions on the committee over many years. They
also make a great contribution each year to the organisation of the Orange Running Festival which attracts
thousands of visitors to the city. Jane has also volunteered with the Blue Ladies at Orange Hospital, by assisting
patients. The community of Orange is a richer place due to the dedication and passion of volunteers such as Bill
and Jane Fairgrieve.
ANNIE GALLAGHER
Mr PHILIP DONATO (Orange)—I rise to recognise Orange migrant support worker Annie Gallagher.
For almost 15 years Ms Gallagher has been providing a range of support services for migrants and refugees who
arrive from Orange often from war torn countries. Ms Gallagher is a kind, compassionate and caring woman who
is known for spending many hours outside her normal working time ensuring migrants and refugees are feeling
and safe and comfortable in their new environment. She is at the coal face of linking these new residents in Orange
to appropriate services that best suit their needs. She does this with amazing warmth and sensitivity to the cultural
diversity of migrants and refugees who make their home in Orange. For our newest residents who often settle here
carrying the trauma of war, and in particular, the latest group of refugees who arrived from Ukraine, having a
caring individual such as Ms Gallagher there to help and support them can make a huge difference as they
transition to a new life. Ms Gallagher also plays a pivotal role in bringing the community together every year to
celebrate cultural diversity through the Harmony Day celebrations enjoyed by her community.
NOWRA RSL COMMEMORATES THE BOER WAR
Mr GARETH WARD (Kiama)—Today I wish to acknowledge the Nowra RSL which held a solemn
Boer War Commemoration Ceremony on Sunday, 28th of May, 2023 at Rauch Park in Nowra. I was honoured
and privileged to be given the opportunity to lay a wreath. I recognise the work of Mr Robert Grant, President of
the Nowra RSL Sub-Branch, Vice President Mr Barry Tait, and Chaplin Byron Steele for their roles in organising
and running the service. I would also like to thank Lt Matthew Sutcliffe and Captain Scott Palmer RAN,
Commanding Officer at HMAS Albatross, for representing the men and women who serve in our armed forces.
Finally, I extend my thank to Bugler Peter Williams for his rendition of the Last Post. Our local community deeply
appreciates the work of all our RSL Sub-Branches and their volunteers. These volunteers work so incredibly hard
to host a range of commemorative services throughout the year. The service was a very important occasion to
bring our local community together to reflect upon and remember all the brave men and women in unform who
helped establish many of the freedoms Australians enjoy.
DR JOHN HOLT – BORONIA PARK DOCTORS
Mr ANTHONY ROBERTS (Lane Cove)—I would like to congratulate Dr John Holt, owner of Boronia
Park Doctors on the successful start to his new medical practice in Gladesville. The practice is fresh, clean, and
welcoming, and the kind of place patients will attend once and stay with for the rest of their life. The community
response to Dr Holt has been overwhelmingly positive due to his thorough, thoughtful, and personable approach
to General Practice and Aesthetic Medicine Services. Many patients have noted that he is continuing the legacy
of Dr. Dennis Grinius, previous owner of Boronia Park Medical Practice who retired from General Practice after
45 years of service due to cancer and died in November 2021. It is a reminder of the powerful connection these
people hold in our communities and that our Health Frontline of NSW continue to get us through the winter flu
season with diligence and high-quality care.
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TEAM LOPEZ FOUNDATION
Mr ANTHONY ROBERTS (Lane Cove)—I would like to offer my sincere congratulations to the Team
Lopez Foundation, a local Lane Cove Charity, on raising $10,000 for Pancreatic Cancer research on the 21st of
May. This is truly a commendable effort and will go a long way towards ridding society of the scourge that is
Pancreatic Cancer. I am proud of the generosity of the Lane Cove Community for contributing such a large sum
for such a worthy cause. Thank you to Tambourine Bay Scout's, Lane Cove Community Band, The Spotted
Orchid, Encasa, Four Frogs Creperie, The Beautician, Be.U Natural, Jack & Co, Bloomintails Dog Grooming and
Farmstays for all of their contributions to such a successful day.
LANE COVE COMMUNITY BAND
Mr ANTHONY ROBERTS (Lane Cove)—I would like to sincerely congratulate the Lane Cove
Community Band for raising $1813 for Cancer Research at its recent morning tea and band supper. This money
will go a long way towards eradicating Cancer from society. Thank you to all those who helped make this event
such a success and a special mention to Michelle, Jane, Jeanette, Iris, Rachel and Janet for all their hard work in
organising the fundraiser.
DEREK SMITH LAWSON RFS
Ms TRISH DOYLE (Blue Mountains)—Derek Smith was a member of the Lawson Volunteer Rural Fire
Brigade in the Blue Mountains for over 35 years. He passed away on 13 May 2023 after a brave battle with cancer.
Derek's funeral was held on Tuesday 30 May 2023 and included a guard of honour by a large contingent of his
RFS mates. He joined the Lawson brigade in 1987 at the age of 19 and shortly after faced his first battle with
cancer. After seemingly beating the disease Derek dedicated the rest of his life to the brigade as a firefighter,
mentor and Station Officer, a role which he held for over 30 years and which he excelled at. Derek was involved
in every major bushfire in the State and took part in numerous search and rescues, storm damage and community
events. Derek was issued several prestigious awards, and renowned for being the first to arrive at the station and
often the last to leave. He was the epitome of a quiet achiever. He'll be greatly missed by all who knew him. His
plaque reads: 'We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give.'
JEWISH ARTS 'MELODIES OF MEMORIES'
Mr MATT CROSS (Davidson)—On Sunday 28 May 2023, I was honoured to attend Jewish Arts'
Melodies of Memory event at North Shore Temple Emanuel in Chatswood. This event brought together many
people across the Jewish community, including a large number of Jewish constituents who reside in the Davidson
community. Music has long held a remarkable ability to touch the depth of our souls, evoking a vast range of
emotions that resonate within us. This event did just that, with powerful and moving performances from talented
artists triggering a solemn atmosphere in memory of the tragedy and losses that occurred during the Holocaust.
I would like to acknowledge Dr Noreen Green, Conductor of the Los Angeles Jewish Symphony and the Musical
Director for this event. I also recognise the Nomad String Quartet, led by violinist Ben Adler, pianist Anthony
Pasquill, the North Shore Temple Emanuel Choir, the Emanuel Synagogue Choir, and all the other talented artists
who delivered such moving performances. I look forward to engaging with the Jewish community into the future
to ensure that the memories of those lost in the Holocaust is never forgotten.
YOM YERUSHLAYIM AT MASADA COLLEGE
Mr MATT CROSS (Davidson)—On Friday 19 May 2023, I was grateful to attend the Yom Yerushalayim
Assembly at Masada College in St Ives. Yom Yerushalayim, also known as Jerusalem Day, commemorates the
reunification of East Jerusalem with West Jerusalem following the Six-Day War in 1967. This event holds great
significance to Israel and the Jewish community. It symbolises the historical and spiritual connection that the
Jewish people have with their sacred city and serves as a testament to resilience, hope, and the pursuit of peace in
the Holy Land. Rafi Nir, a veteran of the Six Day War, delivered a touching keynote address and emphasised the
importance that victory in the Six Day War had for the state of Israel. I would like to thank Masada College
Principal, Mira Hasofer, Head of the Senior School, Ryan Gill, and the students at Masada College for welcoming
me to their incredible event. I look forward to further engaging with Masada College and supporting our local
Jewish community well into the future.
ROSEVILLE COLLEGE LEARNING FESTIVAL
Mr MATT CROSS (Davidson)—I was delighted to attend Roseville College's Learning Festival on
Saturday 20 May 2023. Like many other schools across the Davidson community, Roseville College provides a
quality education that empowers students from kindergarten to year 12 to reach their fullest potential. Many
students have passed through Roseville College's gates since the school was established in 1967. It was
particularly lovely to meet many Roseville College alumni. This festival showcased the remarkable talents of the
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College's students across areas such as music, science, physical activities, languages, arts, design and technology,
and drama. I would like to recognise the outstanding efforts of Roseville College's students and staff, led by
Principal Deb Magill, and College Council Chair David Irving. I look forward to engaging with Roseville College
and other schools across the Davidson community into the future.
THE REGIONAL ACADEMIES OF SPORT – AWARDS DINNER
Dr HUGH McDERMOTT (Prospect)—It was a pleasure to attend The Regional Academies of Sport
Inaugural Awards Dinner on Tuesday, 21st March which was hosted at the centre of Western Sydney, at Wenty
Leagues Club. The Regional Academies of Sport [RAS] network is a peak representative sport body – representing
nine Regional Academies of Sport operating across NSW. The Awards Night was a celebration of the
achievements of coaches and athletes across New South Wales. Each of the Regional Academies of Sport were
encouraged to submit nominations for five award categories, Athlete of the Year, Athlete Leadership, Coach
Leadership, Indigenous Athlete of the Year, and Athlete with Disability of the Year. Congratulations to the
winners of each of the categories who came from all across NSW such as the Illawarra and Central Coast Academy
of Sport. I would also like to congratulate the nominees from the Western Sydney Academy of Sport, our local
Academy in Western Sydney, Olivia Harris, Ethan Mackie, Matthew Engesser, Blake Hodges and Coach James
Sweeney. Thank you to Rod Glover, Chairman, Western Sydney Academy of Sport, and Ian Robilliard, Chair,
RAS, for inviting me to this fantastic event that recognised sporting achievements across NSW.
TAMIL ART AND CULTURAL ASSOCIATION INC. – SYDNEY CHITHIRAI FESTIVAL
Dr HUGH McDERMOTT (Prospect)—It was a pleasure to attend the Sydney Chithirai Festival hosted
by the Tamil Arts and Cultural Association Inc. at Blacktown Leisure Centre on Sunday 7th May with members
of our Tamil community in Western Sydney. The Sydney Chithirai Festival is an exciting daylong event,
celebrating the beginning of the Tamil New Year with vibrant showcases of Tamil language, culture, and art. Now
in its 11th year, more than 1500 individuals attended this celebration - mainly Tamils from India, Sri Lanka,
Malaysia, Singapore, Fiji, South Africa and Mauritia. Members from other ethnic, cultural, and religious groups
in Western Sydney also attended the event – showing their support for the multicultural and diverse community
we are a part of. Tamil communities all across the world celebrate the Chithirai Festival. In Sydney, we were
lucky to host Tamil folk singers Senthil Ganesh and Rajalashmi a troupe from Tamil Nadu, India. There were also
community and food stalls, kids activities, and performances for all the attendees to enjoy. Thank you to Anagan
Babu, President, Tamil Arts and Culture Association Inc, committee members, and volunteers for organising a
wonderful 11th consecutive Chithirai Festival in Western Sydney.
CUMBERLAND CITY COUNCIL – 2023 INTERNATIONAL WOMEN'S DAY
Dr HUGH McDERMOTT (Prospect)—It was an honour to attend the Cumberland City Council 2023
International Women's Day celebrations on Wednesday, 8th March to celebrate the achievements and
contributions of women in the Cumberland Local Government Area and around the world. The theme for 2023
International Women's Day is #EmbranceEquality – where we recognise the importance of striving towards a
world free of bias, stereotypes, and discrimination for women. Cumberland City Council hosted a wonderful lunch
for International Women's Day with women across our Western Sydney community. It was great to acknowledge
and celebrate the achievements of amazing women who have contributed towards improving our society.
Congratulations to all the women who won awards in their respective categories: Shaqaeq Rezai, Young Female
Ambassador Award; Janu Dhayanathan, Access and Disability Award; Michelle Pearce, Aboriginal and Torres
Strait Islander Achievement Award; Aynalem Tessema, Community Event Award; Pilar Lopez, Multicultural
Leadership Award; and Isobel Lorenzi, Local Business Woman of the Year Award. Thank you to Clr Lisa Lake,
Mayor, Councillors, and staff at Cumberland City Council, for organising this fantastic International Women's
Day celebration.
ELECTION OF ROB WILKINSON TO NORTH RYDE RSL BOARD
Mr JORDAN LANE (Ryde)—North Ryde RSL Community Club [NRRSL] recently held elections,
electing a new board of seven candidates. Notably, Rob Wilkinson, chair of Ryde Sports Foundation, joins the
board, bringing valuable experience as a long term community leader. At the AGM, the complete election results
will be announced, including the names of the returning board members, Jim Morris, Beth Ashcroft, Paul Stevens,
Fiona Osborne, Dick Reading and Barry Herbert. This group will shape NRRSL's future, representing the
community's interests with unique skills and perspectives. I pay tribute to former director Graeme Waldron for
his contributions to the board in previous years. The changes reflect the evolving needs of the club, emphasizing
effective governance and leadership. NRRSL looks forward to a promising future with the new board, guided by
its expertise and dedication to community service. The upcoming AGM will introduce the board, discuss club
development, and foster transparent engagement with members.
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MACQUARIE DRAGONS FEMALE FOOTBALL WEEK
Mr JORDAN LANE (Ryde)—On Sunday, I visited Waterloo Park in Marsfield to help celebrate Female
Football Week. Female Football Week is a Football NSW initiative to promote and celebrate women's
participation and involvement in football (soccer). The initiative was introduced to address the gender imbalance
in football and to create more opportunities for women to participate, coach, officiate, and support the game. By
highlighting the achievements and talents of women in football, Female Football Week aims to inspire and
empower more girls and women to get involved in the sport. It also raises awareness about the importance of
gender equality in football and encourages the development of inclusive and supportive environments for female
players. Macquarie Dragons hosted a fantastic gala day of Female Football, from minis to senior teams, with a
cake stall and free BBQ for all participants and their families. I pay special tribute to club president Kathy Tracey
and all the volunteers for all their hard work in making this important event happen.
EPPING BOYS OLD BOYS NETWORK
Mr JORDAN LANE (Ryde)—Epping Boys High School [EBHS] has launched EBHS Connect, an
initiative to create a network of "Old Boys" and community members, expanding student support and career
opportunities. Principal Jessica Schadel emphasizes its significance in fostering connections and identity in today's
fast-paced society. EBHS Connect focuses on maintaining alumni connections and supporting and guiding
students' careers. Simon Lightfoot, the EBHS Careers Counsellor, explains that the initiative establishes official
connections to benefit students' career transitions, leveraging the expertise of alumni and community
organizations. EBHS Connect has gained interest, with former students eager to contribute back to the school.
THese forums are a great opportunity for students to remain connected to their peers, even after leaving school.
Epping Rotary President Bruce Jacob supports the initiative, recognizing its potential to strengthen alumni-school
bonds and benefit students' post-school paths. Arjun Arora, an EBHS Year 12 student, appreciates the
opportunities EBHS Connect offers, engaging with alumni for insights on life after school. I encourage interested
individuals to reach out to the school, as EBHS aims to strengthen its network through enhanced connections and
partnerships. Congratulations to all involved!
MILLION PAWS WALK FUNDRAISER – ILLAWARRA RSPCA
Ms ANNA WATSON (Shellharbour)—Sunday 28 May marked the first Million Paws Walk fundraiser
in four years. This remarkable event, organized by the RSPCA, took place at Reddall Reserve in Lake Illawarra,
and provided dog lovers of all ages with the opportunity to embark on a 1.5-kilometre walk alongside their beloved
four-legged companions, irrespective of breed. The RSPCA showcases its dedication by hosting at least one walk
in every Australian State and Territory. The funds raised from these events enable the RSPCA to undertake a
variety of animal-focused initiatives. These include the implementation of community outreach programs, which
educate individuals about the importance of responsible pet ownership, as well as the ongoing maintenance and
expansion of RSPCA shelters. Furthermore, the funds contribute to the continuous fight against animal cruelty.
In this moment of reflection, I extend my sincere gratitude to the Illawarra branch of the RSPCA for hosting this
fantastic event. I would also like to express my appreciation to all those involved who generously donated to this
incredible cause.
CHELSEA NICOL
Ms ANNA WATSON (Shellharbour)—I congratulate Chelsea Nicol on her remarkable achievement of
being chosen to represent the state of New South Wales in the 2022 School Sport Australia Track and Field
Championships. Chelsea embarked on a journey to Brisbane, where she eagerly took part in a range of exhilarating
events, including the 100-metre sprint, Long Jump, Shotput, and the demanding 800-metre running race.
Throughout these events, Chelsea displayed remarkable dedication, perseverance, and skill, which undoubtedly
left a lasting impression on all who witnessed her admirable performance. It is my utmost pleasure to express my
gratitude for Chelsea's commendable efforts which are a testament to Chelsea's exceptional talent and
determination, making her a true inspiration for aspiring athletes within the Shellharbour Electorate. It is my
pleasure to shine a well-deserved spotlight on her emerging career as an athlete. She has showcased immense
potential, and it is without a doubt that Chelsea's future holds great promise in the realm of sports. May her
remarkable journey continue to unfold, and may she receive the accolades and recognition that her hard work and
dedication rightfully deserve.
OAK FLATS LIONS CLUB
Ms ANNA WATSON (Shellharbour)—I congratulate the members of the Oak Flats Lions Club for
graciously donating eight iPads to the Foreshore Centre at Warilla High School. This donation is more than a
material gift, it is a message to these students at Warilla High School that their potential is recognised and that
they can be successful in their own way. I commend and applaud the exceptional efforts displayed by the Oak
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Flats Lions Club. Their commitment to the betterment of our local community knows no bounds, as they
consistently engage in worthwhile projects and activities aimed at generating funds and resources to uplift and
support those in need.
TORONTO PUBLIC SCHOOL CAPTAINS
Mr GREG PIPER (Lake Macquarie)—I'd like to extend my heartfelt congratulations to Abbie Williams
and Kobi Jones on being elected as Toronto Public School's captains for 2023. Both Abbie and Kobi have excellent
leadership skills and throughout their years of learning at Toronto Public School have shown exemplary behaviour
and have upheld the school's values of belonging, working together, opportunity and growth. After her mother
was diagnosed with breast cancer three years ago, 12-year-old Abbie organised multiple fundraisers within the
school which have raised some much-needed funds for breast cancer research. Kobi, also aged 12, is a keen
sportsman who shows faultless sportsmanship to all. He often helps other students when in the playground and is
always the first person to congratulate someone on their achievements. Toronto Public School is certainly in
excellent hands with Abbie and Kobi working together as captains. I congratulate both Kobi and Abbie and wish
them well.
ARCADIA VALE PUBLIC SCHOOL LEADERS
Mr GREG PIPER (Lake Macquarie)—I want to acknowledge and congratulate four excellent young
students from Arcadia Vale Public School who have become some of the youngest role models in Lake Macquarie.
After receiving a resounding vote of confidence from their fellow classmates, Payton Smith and Mirriyanan
Mason have been elected as the 2023 school captains, while Archie Borrow and Zoe Palmer have been elected as
prefects. Peyton is an exemplary role model who is bright, bubbly and conscientious, while also a talented
performer and sportsperson. Mirriyanan is a natural born leader, charity worker and a champion for her culture.
She is artistic, proud and diligent. Archie brings spark and pazazz to the leadership team. He always has a big
smile and does his best to brighten everyone's day. Zoe is a wonderful role model who, through her growing
confidence at school, has demonstrated that taking risks can lead to personal growth. I acknowledge and
congratulate these four young leaders.
HERITAGE COLLEGE CAPTAINS
Mr GREG PIPER (Lake Macquarie)—I'd like to congratulate Heritage College Lake Macquarie's three
newly-elected school captains. Joshua Ryan, Talitha Ryan and Caitlyn Williams are all standout students who
have been popularly elected by their peers after continuously demonstrating commitment to the school and clear
leadership qualities. 17-year-old Joshua is well known for his enthusiasm and involvement in various school
activities, and recently had a key role in the college's musical production of Annie. 17-year-old Talitha is a natural
leader and constantly sets a great example for her fellow students to follow. Her teachers regard her as
hard-working and friendly, and I note that she also played a major role in Annie. 17-year-old Caitlyn Williams is
a resilient student who is well known for her positive outlook and friendly attitude towards others. She constantly
shows great kindness and an eagerness to help others whenever she can. Well done to these young leaders. I wish
them all the best in leading their school in 2023.
BRADEN STOREY
Mr PAUL TOOLE (Bathurst)—Congratulations to Bathurst's Braden Storey who has been named the
Caterpillar Dealer Top Apprentice for 2023, outperforming 11 other apprentices across the globe to claim the title.
It means Braden is now regarded as one of the best in the world when it comes to his knowledge and expertise of
Cat products. Winning the program will see him travel to America for two weeks of training and a tour of the
company's facilities in the USA. Braden, who has been undertaking his apprenticeship at WesTrac's recently
upgraded state of the art Tomago Institute, spent his childhood around Cat machines on his grandfather's farm
near Bathurst. This was where he recognised his calling to pursue an apprenticeship from a very young age. I know
WesTrac's management are incredibly proud of Braden's efforts which show his hard work, dedication and talent
is paying off and that they look forwarding to seeing him further develop his skills over the coming years.
TERRY BELL
Mr PAUL TOOLE (Bathurst)—Loyalty is a great trait to have and that certainly applies to Oberon
Council employer Terry Bell. Terry has received accolades from across the community after being recognised for
50 years service to his employer. He started out with Oberon Council in March 1973 and over five decades has
done just about every outside job there is and has worked on every piece of plant or equipment that council uses
to maintain and manage the shire. Terry, who carries the inevitable nickname "Ringa", is respected by everyone
he has worked with and gets on with the job during both good times and bad. He assists in all sorts of community
events and shows in the good times and cleared up after storms and snow as well as fighting floods and bushfires
in the not so good times. Giving back to the community has been demonstrated by
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Terry's involvement in the Rural Fire Service while he is also the president of the Oberon Heritage and
Collectors' Club. Congratulations Terry Bell, you are described as an exemplary public servant and an
exceptionally good bloke and on behalf of the Oberon community I say a big thank you.
LIBBY MILLIGAN
Mr PAUL TOOLE (Bathurst)—It's fair to say that Bathurst local Libby Milligan has spent more hours
at the Cook Hockey Complex than anyone would care to count. Much of that time has been in the bitter cold, but
Libby is one of those selfless volunteers who wouldn't have it any other way. Be it as a player, a spectator, umpire,
coach or committee member, the Souths stalwart has a local involvement going back almost four decades. Indeed,
it was her efforts as a volunteer during her time with her beloved Souths that saw Libby recently receive a Hockey
NSW Special Recognition Award. Libby is already a life member of Souths and Bathurst Women's Hockey and
justifiably so. While finding success on the field as a player, it's off the field that Libby has been a shining light
as a volunteer. These include acting as the president of Bathurst Hockey and coaching representative sides along
the way. And not to be outdone, she's also become on umpire which really shows there's no role that Libby can't
fill. I am sure the wider sporting community joins with me on congratulating Libby who thoroughly deserves her
Hockey NSW Special Recognition Award.
DEBORAH COLLINS – CANOPY KEEPERS
Mr RORY AMON (Pittwater)—I pay tribute to Deborah (Deb) Collins for her work as Convenor of
Canopy Keepers. Canopy Keepers is a non-partisan community group borne out of the shared heartbreak of seeing
the canopy perforated on a daily basis in Sydney's northern beaches. A group of passionate people now work to
educate our community to value and preserve the canopy and support the threatened wildlife, while lobbying
council to affect changes to policies that are outdated and not keeping pace with modern development trends. Deb
is instrumental in her efforts as Convenor of this wonderful organisation. Our local environment is richer for the
work of Deb and the many volunteers of Canopy Keepers. Deb has recently been campaigning for increased
financial penalties for the illegal removal of trees. I support this campaign, I am pleased that these words of thanks
will now be preserved in the records of the oldest Parliament of our country, as a small recognition of your
contribution and service. Thank you for your service.
BILGOLA PLATEAU PROBUS CLUB
Mr RORY AMON (Pittwater)—I congratulate the Bilgola Plateau Probus Club. The Club recently
commenced in October 2022 and his hit the ground running. I acknowledge the management committee, Di Cross,
Mary Musgrave, Jan Monnock, Maree McEvoy, Mary Wearne, Peter Marcer, Shelley Barwick, Anne Kellick,
Joyce Moody, Jan Turnbull, Sue Walker and, particularly, Patricia Ryan, the founding president and now
immediate past president. Probus is a wonderful concept and organisation which connects the semi-retired and
retirees, about 110,000 across Australia and New Zealand. This helps create a more vibrant and inclusive Pittwater
community. I am pleased that these words will now be preserved in the records of the oldest Parliament of our
country, as a small recognition of the commencement of the Bilgola Plateau Probus Club.
MANLY WARRINGAH BASKETBALL, ELISA SPANO & RAFFERTY (RAF)
Mr RORY AMON (Pittwater)—I pay tribute to Elisa Spano, and her son Raf. Whilst Raf is in a
wheelchair, this does not define him. Raf is defined by perseverance and an outward looking focus. Even though
Raf is 10 years of age, this does not hold him and his mum back from seeking to improve the lives of others who
are wheelchair abled. Recently, Elisa and Raf inspired and instigated the commencement of a wheelchair
basketball competition and training on the Northern Beaches. Previously, Raf and Elisa had to travel 36km to
Dural for a competition. This is an activity for all – I know, having joined in late last year for a session – it was A
LOT of fun. I also acknowledge local Councillor Ruth Robins for championing this cause. I pay tribute to Raf,
Elisa, and coaches, retired Paralympians Koen Jansens and Lisa Edmonds, for your efforts in championing and
facilitating this competition. I also pay tribute to Raf's dad, Bradley Stevens. You are all inspirations. I am pleased
that these words will now be preserved in the records of the oldest Parliament of our country, as a recognition of
your contributions.
WHITEBRIDGE HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETES
Ms JODIE HARRISON (Charlestown—Minister for Women, Minister for Seniors, and Minister for
the Prevention of Domestic Violence and Sexual Assault)—Whitebridge High School is continuing its tradition
of supporting top young athletes in following their dreams. Congratulations to students Lacey Barnes and Hamish
Ihle who have recently been selected to compete in the world children's games in South Korea as part of Team
Lake Macquarie. Congratulations to Lacey, who will competing in Athletics and Hamish, who will be part of the
Swimming squad. Lake Macquarie will be represented by athletes in Athletics (Track and Field), Swimming,
Tennis and Volleyball. The International Children's Games is a unique opportunity for young local athletes. It is
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a chance to compete in international competition, make new friends and develop an understanding and respect for
people from other cultures. I am incredibly proud to have been Mayor of Lake Macquarie when we hosted the
first International Children's Games to be held in the Southern Hemisphere. The 55th International Children's
Games will be held over five days from 5-10 July 2023 in Daegu, South Korea. There will be a contingent of
students from Lake Macquarie heading to the event, so you can expect to hear more about our student
achievements in the coming months.
DELIA BRIGHT TURNS 100
Ms JODIE HARRISON (Charlestown—Minister for Women, Minister for Seniors, and Minister for
the Prevention of Domestic Violence and Sexual Assault)—It was my pleasure to attend the 100th birthday
celebration of Delia Bright the February. Mrs Bright has lived a vibrant and colourful life, including raising three
children and two grandchildren. She lived in Charlestown for 69 years and is a well-known personality who has
been involved in a range of local community groups. She was a member of the Hunter Labour History group for
many years and is a life member of the Lake Macquarie and District Historical Society. A green thumb, she has
also been recognised as a life member of the Hunter Valley African Violet Society. Up until 2019, when she
entered residential care, Mrs Bright attended all the Society's meetings, and was a regular at the Legacy and War
Widows gatherings each month. Mrs Bright has always found ways to stay connected with her community. In
2019, well into her 90s, she joined a penpal program with students from Swansea High School. Mrs Bright was
the oldest participant in the program. Delia's celebration was held at the Warners Bay Guide Hall, where Delia
was a guide leader for many years, helping to fundraise for the Hall's construction. Congratulations and thank
you, Delia!
2023 COASTLINE CREDIT UNION GREATER PORT MACQUARIE BUSINESS AWARDS – PART
A
Mrs LESLIE WILLIAMS (Port Macquarie)—I am proud to announce today the local businesses in my
electorate who received recognition at the 2023 Coastline Credit Union Greater Port Macquarie Business Awards
held las month. The winners include; People's Choice – Any Occasion Cakes & Party Food. Accommodation and
Excellence in WH&S – Mantra The Observatory. New Business – Amegilla Studios. Automotive Services – Get
Detailed by Joseph. Restaurants & Café – The Chip Shop. Childcare, Education & Training – The Nature School.
Professional & Business Services (6 or less employees), Excellence in Large Business (6 or more employees) –
Men And Women At Work. Community & Social Services, Outstanding Community Organisation and Business
of the Year – Liberty Domestic & Family Violence Specialist Services. Financial Services – Mortgage Choice –
Kelly Carter. Food Production & Catering – Char Bar Catering. Hair & Beauty Services – Plum Studio. Health &
Wellbeing, Employer of Choice (Under 20 Employees), Excellence in Innovation – Port Medical Aesthetics
Clinic. Hotels, Clubs & Bars – Port City Bowling Club. Outstanding Young Business Leader – Willow Rissel –
Brows by Willow. Creative Services & Communications – Lucy Humphries Photography. Construction – Pycon
Homes. I congratulate the winners and wish them well in their future endeavours.
2023 COASTLINE CREDIT UNION GREATER PORT MACQUARIE BUSINESS AWARDS – PART
B
Mrs LESLIE WILLIAMS (Port Macquarie)—Today I join in celebration to commend the winners of
the 2023 Coastline Credit Union Greater Port Macquarie Business Awards held last month. Our leaders in business
were recognised on Saturday night to mark achievements in innovation, creativity and customer service over the
past year. The award receipts include; Industry, Manufacturing & Engineering – BeautPress Pty Ltd t/as Port City
Steel. Professional & Business Services (5 or less employees) – Belle Property. Retail (5 or less employees),
Excellence in Micro Business – Mid Coast Uniform Solutions. Retail (6 or more employees) – Hastings
Co-operative Ltd. Tourism & Attractions – Arts & Health Australia and Hello Koalas Sculptural Trail. 2023
Wayne Jackson Outstanding Community Service Award – Erin Denham – Make a Difference PMQ. Highly
Commended: Allan Gordon – Hastings Co-op (posthumously). Creative Services & Communications – Lucy
Humphries Photography. Outstanding Business Leader – Catherine Shaw – The Nature School. Community
Impact Award – To Create a World Worth Living In – Self Seen. Outstanding Employee – Claire
Mathews – Colourworks Australia. Employer of Choice (Over 20 Employees) – All Disability Plan Management.
Woman in Business (Hastings Business Women's Network) – Jo Hollis from All Disability Plan Management.
Excellence in Small Business – Thrumster Business Park.
MONIKA DI MAIO, NETBALL CONVENOR NSWCHSSA
Mrs LESLIE WILLIAMS (Port Macquarie)—I rise to recognise Miss Monika Di Maio, Netball
Convenor for the NSW Combined High Schools Sports Association. I would like to congratulate Monika for
doing an exceptional job in coordinating three days of high-class netball at the NSWCHS Netball Championships
in Orange last month. Monika was responsible for ensuring the tournament ran smoothly, organising each element
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involved in hosting 11 regional teams to play 55 games of elite netball. A significant result of the championships
is the selection of the NSW State Open team. Monika also manages the Under 15 NSW All Schools team and is
a member of the NSW All Schools Netball Committee. Players on the Under 15 team are selected from both
public and independent schools across NSW. Previous members of these State teams have gone on to play for the
Australian Diamonds, representing our country at an international level. Monika also holds the position of Head
Teacher Human Society and Its Environment, Hastings Secondary College, Westport Campus. Thank you,
Monika for your outstanding commitment to netball in our State, and the exceptional job you do in supporting
secondary students in pursuing their love of this sport.
SHELLY BEACH BRASS MONKEYS AND ELSIE SUNRISE SWIMMING CLUB
Mr MARK SPEAKMAN (Cronulla)—I congratulate the Shelly Beach Brass Monkeys and Elsie Sunrise
Swimming Club on celebrating its 25th anniversary in May. Club members can be found swimming at Shelly
Pool all year round at sunrise, in all water temperatures. The club has 60 members who enjoy getting their daily
dose of exercise together, with some foundation members still swimming every day, including Les Hokin at age
94. The reason for the first part of the club's name is obvious but the "and Elsie" at the end honours their
much-loved matriarch Elsie McNaughton who passed away in 2021 at 103, having swum at Shelly Beach for
more than 50 years. The club has also just celebrated the first full repainting of its heritage club rooms that
members have helped maintain since the group started in 1998. Congratulations to the club on reaching 25 years
of helping keep people active in a friendly sunrise community.
NOAH PRINS
Mrs TANYA THOMPSON (Myall Lakes)—I rise to recognise Noah Prins from Taree. At 13 years old,
Noah is an extraordinary young man who was recently invited to perform onstage at the Manning Entertainment
Centre as part of a local Youth Arts Festival organised by Taree Universities Centre and Headspace Taree. Noah
experienced severe bullying at school and through Headspace Taree, Noah was introduced to Scott Greenaway
who was finalising a course in music therapy and it was at this time Noah picked up the bass guitar. In the time
Noah spent with Scott, Noah developed a great love for the bass guitar. He and Scott worked on two songs together
in his sessions. Scott mentored Noah for a month helping to prepare him to get up on stage, not only to play his
bass but to sing the song he had written. Noah pushed himself, practiced and got up on the stage for the first time
in front of almost 200 strangers to perform. Noah should be incredibly proud of what he has achieved, and I urge
Noah to keep going forward even when things get tough. Noah, you are an inspiration to us all.
HARLEY BUNYAN
Mrs TANYA THOMPSON (Myall Lakes)—I rise to recognise Harley Bunyan of Taree. Harley is a local
that is truly passionate about his home and the community. At just 16 years of age, Harley is actively involved in
many community events such as Tastefest and Love Taree. Harley plays with the Cundletown Cougars Hockey
Club and assists with the junior players. Studying at St Clare's High School, he is also actively involved in many
school events. Harley is also a huge advocate for Hannahs Blue Butterfly's Road Safety Awareness Foundation,
raising awareness on the importance of safe driving practice. I am confident that Harley has a very bright future
ahead of him. He dedicates so much of his time to helping others through his volunteer work and genuinely wants
to make a positive change to the world around him. Thank you Harley!
OSCAR YEATES
Mrs TANYA THOMPSON (Myall Lakes)—I rise to recognise Year Six student from Holy Name
Primary School, Oscar Yeates. Oscar recently represented the Maitland-Newcastle Catholic Schools Office in the
Da-Vinci Decathlon competition for Year 5 and Year 6 students, which was held at Bishop Tyrell Anglican
College, Fletcher. To be selected on this team is a remarkable achievement with just eight Year 6 students across
the 44 Primary Schools in the diocese being selected to compete on this team. Oscar represented Holy Name with
pride and performed exceptionally well, with his team being awarded first place in the Ideation category.
I congratulate Oscar on his outstanding achievement in a very challenging competition.
NORTH HEAD SANCTUARY FOUNDATION
Mr JAMES GRIFFIN (Manly)—I rise today to recognise the fantastic work done by the North Head
Sanctuary Foundation the "Custodians of North Head". The North Head Sanctuary Foundation is a community
organisation that does important work such as weeding and planting in the North Head nursery to ensure the
propagation of native species to be used for revegetation in the sanctuary and nearby areas. Further, the volunteers
work hard to construct "vegetative links" - small areas of dense foliage where the bandicoots can take refuge,
forage and hopefully soon start to nest. The Foundation also operates the "Bandicoot Heaven" Visitors Centre and
conducts citizen science projects to help provide a head count of native species such as Bandicoots and Echidnas.
I thank all the members for the fantastic work they do and hope to see them soon to lend a hand.
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SES WOW DAY
Mr TIM JAMES (Willoughby)—The State Emergency Service [SES] do extraordinary work to keep our
communities safe. WOW Day, or 'Wear Orange Wednesday' was a fantastic opportunity for our community to
honour and give thanks for the work of our local SES. Falling on 17 May this year, communities across Australia
are encouraged to wear at least one item of orange and thank all SES volunteers who generously give their time
to help communities during flood and storm emergencies. Locally in Willoughby we thank the NSW SES
Willoughby-Lane Cove Unit who selflessly give their time to keep us safe in times of need. Our SES volunteers
have had a tough few years with severe weather and continue to serve us with courage and distinction. I know the
community are grateful and thank these wonderful volunteers for all they do to save lives and protect us and our
communities.
THE POST – BIGGEST MORNING TEA
Mr TIM JAMES (Willoughby)—I thank local North Shore community newspaper The Post for hosting
the 'biggest morning tea' on Thursday 18 May in Roseville. The Morning Tea was a fundraiser for the Cancer
Council. Tragically, one in two Australians will have cancer in their lives and we can all make a difference by
supporting fundraising initiatives like this. I commend the Cancer Council for the invaluable work it does to fund
world-class cancer research, cancer support services, cancer prevention programs, and advocacy for governments
to improve cancer policies. I would like to congratulate Tina Brown of The Post for all her work behind organising
this Morning Tea to raise funds for this cause – one that is close to my heart. Sponsored by Bendigo Bank branches
in Sydney's North, the Morning Tea was a great success. I would like to thank Jo Marx from It's About Us for
being a wonderful guest speaker who outlined the precious work her organisation does with and for cancer
patients. Together, we must support community efforts to combat the scourge of cancer.
WILLOUGHBY SCHOOL LEADERS
Mr TIM JAMES (Willoughby)—It was a pleasure to speak to the Secondary Student Leadership Program
at Parliament House on 31 May about the importance of leadership. Representing the electorate of Willoughby
were six outstanding school leaders from St Pius X College, Willoughby Girls High, and Chatswood High School.
Leadership is not just about holding a position or a title, but about service to others. An ideal greater than oneself.
It is servant leadership that most inspires and empowers. It's about having the courage to take responsibility and
make a positive impact in our communities. As I said to the students, leadership is not limited to the boundaries
of a school; it extends to every aspect of our lives. Whether it's standing up for what is right, being a voice for the
voiceless, or taking initiative to address issues that matter. I commend our young leaders on their journey of
leadership and am proud to serve them and their communities – and I thank them again for their service as leaders.
MACARTHUR MULTICULTURAL CHILDREN'S FESTIVAL
Mr ANOULACK CHANTHIVONG (Macquarie Fields—Minister for Better Regulation and Fair
Trading, Minister for Industry and Trade, Minister for Innovation, Science and Technology, Minister for
Building, and Minister for Corrections)—A future full of tolerance, respect, and community harmony comes
by promoting these values to our children. This is the mission of the Macarthur Multicultural Children's Festival,
which was held in May in Koshigaya Park, Campbelltown. Launched in 2018, the festival is one of the biggest
multicultural events of the year in the Macarthur region. The motto of the festival is that children who play together
live together in harmony. Through vibrant cultural performances, food from across the globe and various
children's activities, the festival brings children, families, and community together to celebrate our rich cultural
diversity. I commend and congratulate Festival Director and 2023 Campbelltown Citizen of the Year, Brian Laul,
and everyone involved in the Macarthur Multicultural Children's Festival on delivering a community celebration
to foster harmony in our community. I am a firm believer that there is more that unites than divides us. I trust that
the Macarthur Multicultural Children's Festival will continue to promote greater cultural awareness and
understanding for years to come.
LUZ GUTIERREZ 5 YEARS OF SERVICE MOUNT DRUITT ADMINISTRATION VOLUNTEER
Mr EDMOND ATALLA (Mount Druitt)—I wish to recognise Luz Gutierrez for her 5 years of service
as an administration volunteer at Mount Druitt Hospital. Luz, who is a resident of my electorate, was recently
recognised for her dedication and contribution to Mount Druitt Hospital, where she was presented with a
certificate, for her years of volunteer work. Luz is truly a kind and compassionate individual who has dedicated
her time to the patients and families using the Mt Druitt Hospital. This much deserved award recognises and
appreciates all the work and commitment Luz has performed through her service and I take this opportunity to
thank her for her continued support to the Mount Druitt Community.
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JAI MENSER
Mr ADAM CROUCH (Terrigal)—I want to recognise an outstanding individual within my electorate,
twenty-one-year-old Jai Menser. Jai is embarking on a challenge to complete the fifty in fifty marathon to fund
raise and awareness for the Top Blokes Foundation, which sees runners complete fifty forty-two point two
kilometre marathons in a fifty day period. Following this, he will finish with a one-hundred-kilometre loop run in
September at Terrigal, as well as a twenty-four-hour run up and down Terrigal Skillion in October. Jai has already
completed twenty-one half marathons in twenty one days, six marathons and one-hundred and thirty five laps up
and down Terrigal Skillion which is beyond impressive. Jai's sheer determination and passion will be a recipe for
success in the future, and I have absolutely no doubt that he will be successful in his challenge to complete the
fifty in fifty marathon. Thank you Jai, what you are doing is an astonishing act and I am sure the entire Terrigal
electorate and the Central Coast will be backing you all the way.
MACS FRIENDS HELPING NEIGHBOURS
Mr ADAM CROUCH (Terrigal)—In light of the recent volunteer week, I would like to recognise the
excellent "Macs Friends Helping Neighbours" and founder Jill Danks. Inspired by another great local organisation
in my electorate, Killy Cares, Macs Friends Helping Neighbours is a volunteer-based organisation that assists
local residents with their various needs. Whether that be needing a lift to a doctor's appointment, doing the
shopping or small chores, this valuable organisation is available to assist anyone in the community. Ms Danks
was inspired by Killy Cares and similar services offered by the Macmasters Beach Ladies Social Club in
establishing this organisation, and it is always heartening to see volunteer-based organisations like this one do
much valued work in the community. These volunteers not only help others in need, but strengthen the sense of
community – something that we on the Central Coast are proud of. Thank you Jill, and thank you Macs Friends
Helping Neighbours for all the work that you do.
CELEBRATING WAMBERAL SURF LIFE SAVING CLUB
Mr ADAM CROUCH (Terrigal)—I would like to recognise one of my local surf clubs, Wamberal Surf
Life Saving Club for hosting their successful senior presentation night where they celebrated the outstanding
achievements of the club members. It was pleasing to see eighteen individuals recognised by the Club for over
fifty plus hours of patrol, which is no easy feat – a massive thank you to these members for keeping our beaches
safe! As a total, the members have undertaken an exceptional three-thousand hours of patrol, with one-hundred
and twenty-two patrolling members across eight teams. Their continual commitment to the Club is remarkable.
These patrol hours amount to over seventy full days of patrol which highlights the pure dedication of these
Wamberal Surf Club volunteers. Further, it was a pleasure to witness the induction of the Club's newest life
member, Mister Adam Phillips who was presented with his life member jacket by Mister Peter James OAM.
Thank you to the Wamberal Surf Life Saving Club for inviting me to your fantastic event and congratulations on
hosting a successful presentation night.
NATALIE PECKHAM
Mr DUGALD SAUNDERS (Dubbo)—I would like to take this opportunity to acknowledge the talents
of Wiradjuri artist and Tubbagah man from Dubbo, Nathan Peckham. Nathan is the creative director and founder
of Yurana Creative. Inspired by the learnings from his Elders, Mr Peckham weaves together a vibrant mixture of
modern digital media and methods to breathe life into his unique brand of artwork and design. His artwork will
shine during Vivid Sydney with his original designs transformed into light art sculptures for Wild Lights at
Taronga Zoo Sydney. Wild Lights at Taronga see's Australia's unique wildlife transformed into a light display
showcasing some of the country's most iconic species including the echidna, emu, dingo, koala, platypus and
possum. Nathan believes that we have a truly diverse way of expressing art throughout our Aboriginal
communities, so if that gets people to think and sparks their curiosity to learn more than that is a win for him.
I applaud Nathan for his creative vision and his commitment to sharing Aboriginal art and culture through his
artwork and I encourage those who can visit Wild Lights at Taronga Zoo Sydney to do so.
WELLINGTON SOLDIERS MEMORIAL CLUB BINGO PLAYERS
Mr DUGALD SAUNDERS (Dubbo)—The bingo players at Wellington Soldiers Memorial Club have
been saving a percentage of Undercover Bingo ticket purchases for more than 12 months, with one goal in
mind – to raise $10,000 for the Cancer Council. What makes this donation truly special is that every single dollar
will be funnelled back into the Central West communities, through the Cancer Council hubs in Dubbo and Orange.
The impact of this contribution will be far-reaching, and will touch the lives of those who need it most. Through
the sales of Undercover Bingo game books, they have managed to raise close to $120 every week, and the
organisers were passionate about directing these funds towards the Cancer Council western region, ensuring that
the money remains within our community, supporting crucial programs and services. The Cancer Council
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expressed its sincere gratitude to the Wellington community and the bingo players for their extraordinary
contribution. Well done to the Wellington Soldiers Memorial Club bingo players for your unwavering
commitment and shining example of community spirit!
NICOLA HARTLEY
Mr DUGALD SAUNDERS (Dubbo)—I would like to congratulate Dubbo's Nicola Hartley, who recently
received the $3,000 Dubbo Regional Council scholarship, which is offered to Charles Sturt University students
from the Dubbo area. Nicola, who is currently studying a Bachelor of Animal Science, expressed her gratitude in
receiving the scholarship. The scholarship will assist Nicola with accommodation costs, and everyday expenses,
and also allows her more time to focus on course materials and learning, while also staying involved in the
community. Nicola's choice to pursue Animal Science stems from her passion for biology, agriculture and primary
industries, which she cultivated during her high school years. When she completes her degree, Nicola aspires to
be a positive influence on her community, with plans to continue her study through a Bachelor of Teaching
(Secondary), to utilise her knowledge and skills to teach the next generation. Well done Nicola, and all the best
for your future studies!
MACARTHUR YOUNG CHAMPIONS AWARD
Mrs SALLY QUINNELL (Camden)—I congratulate the winners of the 2023 Macarthur young
champions awards on their outstanding achievements. This year's awards recognised twenty-nine different
individuals outstanding achievements and dedication across a variety of different endeavours, including education,
community service, the environmental, fine and performing arts, leadership, sport, employment and technology.
Congratulations to all the winners, Mia Ransom, Malyah Arnold, Amelia Hilyander, Nandan Trivei, Elliana
Wilson, Laila Butler, Ayush Krishna, Gypsy Lee, Luna Fordham-Nagy, Emmy Gelardi-Bunyi, Maddison Bell
Bohar, Ruby Fagedine, Tahlia Yule, Sakura Murakami, Georgia Potter, Eli Uluibau, Amelia Noble-Murray, Shay
Jensen, Tiana Vella, Malik McDonald, Triple T Dance, Macarthur Youth Ballet, Jack Jones, Jasmine Belbin, Blair
Geraghty, Heidi Lewtchenko, the Tag 20 Team and Daniya Syed. These young people have gone above and
beyond in several different fields and in doing so have had a positive impact upon the Macarthur community.
I would particularly like to congratulate Georgia Potter for winning the Champion of Champions Award for being
the young person who had consistently achieved and given her best over a number of categories, a truly remarkable
achievement and well deserved not to mention she turned 18 on the awards night!
CULTURE AND COMMUNITY IN THE CENTER OF CAMDEN
Mrs SALLY QUINNELL (Camden)—When faced with the difficulty of trying to find last minute gowns
and jewellery in to celebrate the end of Ramadan, members of the Multilingual Community and Culture group
discovered a lack of services in the Camden area. To fix this problem they held the Inaugural Eid Chand Rat
Henna Night on April 21 in Harrington Park Community Hall. A fantastic festival of glamour, participants were
able to purchase dresses, scarves and jewellery from stalls within the Hall, but it was the incredible Henna art that
seemed to grab the most attention. Food and Music were also featured creating a festival atmosphere that heralded
in the celebrations of the weekend to come. Congratulations to the Multilingual Community and Culture Group
for a fabulous evening of shopping and entertainment. It was a wonderful event. Congratulations to my friend
Eliza for your never-ending advocacy for your community in Camden.
CAREVAN BLACKTOWN
Mr MARK TAYLOR (Winston Hills)—I use this time to recognise the hardworking volunteers at
Carevan Blacktown and thank them for continually providing charitable services to locals in need across the
Winston Hills Electorate. Carevan Blacktown was founded in 2012 as a branch of The Carevan Foundation formed
by Dr John Brabant. Members of the Blacktown community saw a need for the Carevan service In the Blacktown
local Government area and decided to form their branch. Members of Carevan Blacktown diligently meet each
Tuesday evening at the Lalor Park Community Hall and offer their services to community members. The hall is
opened to everyone in need and serves hot meals and various goods to attendees. Carevan Blacktown is funded
by generous donations of money and resources from local businesses which support their weekly meal services
and deliver of other goods such as clothing and hygiene products. I extend my sincere thanks to Carevan
Blacktown and its many volunteers for their sacrificial work in our community.
LYNWOOD PARK PUBLIC SCHOOL PARENTS AND CITIZENS ASSOCIATION
Mr MARK TAYLOR (Winston Hills)—I take this time to recognise the Lynwood Park Public School
Parents and Citizens Association for their community engagement both within their school and the broader local
area. Parents and Citizens Associations are important groups which support the development of community spirit
in local schools. These bodies are responsible for the organisation of school-wide events and activities to involve
students, parents and careers. The Lynwood Park Public School P&C are a diligent group of volunteers who meet
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regularly to support the growth and development of their school. The P&C organise events such as the coveted
election-day barbeque, arranging welcome packs for new students, a number of fundraisers across the year and
several stalls where students can purchase items for mothers-day, fathers-day, Christmas, easter and others. I thank
this local P&C for their hardwork in organisation across this year. I particularly congratulate the newly elected
2023 executive, including President Madeleine Kassab, Secretary Jasmine Monger and Vice President Sherrie
Price. I wish the P&C nothing but the best for the remainder of this year and beyond.
SURF LIFE SAVING ILLAWARRA
Ms MARYANNE STUART (Heathcote)—Every summer, beaches throughout NSW become a hotspot
for locals and tourists alike. I have often said that the beach is my happy place. And I know there are many, many
other people that feel the same way. However, ensuring the safety of beachgoers is – and must always
be – paramount. In the Illawarra, ensuring the safety of beachgoers is a responsibility that falls on the shoulders
of Surf Life Saving Illawarra. Surf Life Saving Illawarra is made up of 17 surf life saving clubs and about 9,000
members. That is an incredible amount of people who volunteer their time to a great cause. The organisation was
originally formed in 1917 and called the South Coast Surf Bathing Association. However shortly after the decision
was made to affiliate with the Royal Life Saving Society. This was formally adopted in late 1920. In 1924 the
organisation changed its name to the South Coast Branch of the Surf Life Saving Association of Australia. Another
name change, this time to the Illawarra Branch of Surf Life Saving Australia, occurred five years later. On behalf
of our community, thank you to every member of Surf Life Saving Illawarra for your dedication.
ILLAWARRA SHOALHAVEN SUICIDE PREVENTION COLLABORATIVE
Ms MARYANNE STUART (Heathcote)—It doesn't seem that long ago that mental health was seen a
taboo subject. However, thankfully that attitude has shifted as the importance and awareness of mental health and
wellbeing has improved dramatically. One organisation in the Illawarra region focused on mental
health – specifically suicide prevention – is the Illawarra Shoalhaven Suicide Prevention Collaborative. The
collaborative's aim is simple – to work together to reduce the number of suicides throughout the Illawarra region.
Since its launch, the ISSPC has introduced and established a number of programs and services. Those programs
and services include: Question, Persuade and Refer Training; Youth Aware Mental Health Training; Safe Spaces;
the Where To Go For Support resource; and Nextsteps. The Nextsteps program is particularly important as it
provides an aftercare program for those who have presented to an emergency department for a suicidal crisis. The
incredible passion and dedication of those involved with the collaborative has no doubt not only changed the lives
of many Illawarra residents, but also saved lives as well. On behalf of the Illawarra region, I would like to thank
you to every member of the Illawarra Shoalhaven Suicide Prevention Collaborative.
VOLUNTEERS OOLONG CREEK
Mrs WENDY TUCKERMAN (Goulburn)—I rise today to recognise the work of the Volunteers at
Oolong Creek, in Gunning. The removal of blackberry and elm suckers is by no means an easy feat. With a strong
team of ten local Volunteers, a staff member from Ozfish - and not to mention a good pair of welding gloves,
which come in very handy when removing the blackberries from Oolong Creek. This essential task was undertaken
to enhance the habitat for the local endangered Southern Pygmy Perch. I sincerely thank and acknowledge the
group of volunteers who came together and continue to work collaboratively to enhance and improve the
environment, supporting the ecological biodiversity within our electorate. The sense of community and dedication
to this work is to be commended. I thank you all for the work that you have undertaken thus far and truly
acknowledge the spirit and altruism of volunteering.
HUME CONSERVATORIUM
Mrs WENDY TUCKERMAN (Goulburn)—Today I rise to recognise the Hume Conservatorium - a
music education centre located in Goulburn, servicing the Southern Highlands and Tablelands of NSW. The Hume
Conservatorium – affectionately called "The Con" has been providing enriching and accessible music programs
for the community, no matter a person's age or abilities since its establishment in 1985. With a community of over
1000, the facility offers a valuable and diverse range of music programs - including Early Childhood Music,
tertiary courses offered through the University of New England, and numerous community ensembles. Through
the Con's In-Schools Music Program, they actively support schools near and far in the area, especially through the
annual Goulburn Community of Public Schools Music Festival, and work closely with The Arts Unit (Department
of Education) to enhance high school music programs. The Hume Conservatorium is so much more than just a
music school – it is a regional community of music makers and creatives that every day enriches the lives of
students and the community. I celebrate the Hume Conservatorium and the wonderful impact it has on educating
and sharing the joy of music across the Goulburn electorate.
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TALLONG APPLE DAY
Mrs WENDY TUCKERMAN (Goulburn)—I rise today to recognise Tallong Apple Day. Held on the
7th of May 2023 it was once again a wonderful day filled with excited families and locals celebrating the proud
apple orchard history of Tallong. The dedicated local volunteers once again put together a variety of enjoyable
activities – the apple pie-eating competition always a highlight. I thank Chrissy Wursten, Kerry Lawrence, Dennis
Dovale, Jackie Dovale, Karen Beeston, Andy Beeston, Maureen Hollows, Rodney Hollows, Pam Cochrane,
Mangus Agren, Bel Agren and Geoff Schnider for their efforts in creating the day. The Tallong Apple Day is one
which is full of excitement and a diverse range of activities from whip cracking to wood chopping, medieval
battles and bake-offs. The Tallong Apple Day is a terrific community event put together through generous
sponsorship by local businesses and countless hours of hard work by dedicated volunteers. Tallong Apple Day is
not just a celebration with all proceeds of hosting being returned to the community, with the goal of funding a
new skate park. Congratulations Tallong Apple Day on another successful year.
HUNTER REGION BUSINESS EXCELLENCE AWARDS 2023
Ms JENNY AITCHISON (Maitland—Minister for Regional Transport and Roads)—I was honoured
to attend the Hunter Region Business Excellence Awards organised by the incredible Kerry Hallett and her team
from the Hunter Region Business Hub. Nominees were all of a very high calibre and clearly demonstrate how
business acumen, customer service and innovation are growing and flourishing in the Hunter region. 2023
Business of the Year award went to local Morpeth business Uaine Candles owned by the sparkling Andrew and
Mason and his partner Suzanne. Offering unique hand-crafted candles for many years, dedicated to sustainability
and customer service, they have set the benchmark for others in the industry and are a very deserved winner of
the prestigious accolade. I was honoured to present Business Woman of the Year to Brodie White and the Young
Entrepreneur of the Year to Amy Foster, both very deserving winners. Having won many of these awards in my
time in business, I know just how hard it is to achieve this recognition, and the hard work that goes into each
nomination. Congratulations to the winners, the finalists and all the nominees, and thanks to Hunter Region
Business Hub for a wonderful and successful evening.
LOCAL WOMAN OF THE YEAR NOMINEE KATRINA SHARMAN
Ms JENNY AITCHISON (Maitland—Minister for Regional Transport and Roads)—Congratulations
to Katrina Sharman on being nominated in the Local Woman of the Year Awards for Maitland. Katrina has been
working with Mai-Wel for more than 18 years, meaning she's been in embedded in our community for a long
time. Starting as a volunteer, she completed work experience in the disability sector and had a passion and a desire
to help people less fortunate than herself. From volunteer, to Disability Support Worker, to Lead Support Worker
and now a Senior Manager, she is an inspiration to many women. Katrina leads a passionate team, which run a
series of creative and purposeful programs; whether it is writing a book, becoming an artist or singer, recording a
pod cast, participating in group sports or much more. Katrina has been working with people in our community
and empowering those individuals to reach for the stars for many years. Katrina has worked tirelessly with her
team to be able to support the Maitland community and people with disability in so many ways. Congratulations
on your nomination Katrina.
NATIONAL WALK SAFELY TO SCHOOL DAY
Ms JENNY AITCHISON (Maitland—Minister for Regional Transport and Roads)—Thank you to
local school crossing supervisor Gillian Jones, who has been working at Rutherford Public School for three years.
I joined Gillian and Principal Andrew Brown and representatives of Transport for NSW to greet students and
parents and carers on Friday 19th of May – National Walk Safely to School Day. There are more than one million
students travelling to and from school each day in NSW. Now in its 24th year, National Walk Safely to School
Day is an annual nation-wide event by the Pedestrian Council of Australia where all primary school-aged children
are encouraged to walk and commute safely to school. It is a community event promoting road safety, health,
public transport and the environment. Teaching our children how to get to and from school safely is one of the
most important things we can do. Hold your child's hand, choose safe places to cross the road and explain to your
child why they are safe choices. With more than 1,400 Transport for NSW supervisors at over 1,170 crossings
near 950 schools across New South Wales, these local heroes are helping our kids learn about the safest place to
cross. Thank you!
KIAMA VOLUNTEER EXPO
Mr GARETH WARD (Kiama)—Today the Parliament of New South Wales acknowledges the
wonderful turnout to the Kiama Volunteer Expo held in Coronation Park on Wednesday, 24th of May 2023. Over
30 volunteer organisations turned up to show the good work they've been doing a recruit more volunteers from
the community. Heather Milroy represented WIRES Illawarra, which helps rescue native wildlife. Steve
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Whitmore was there from the Rural Fire Service, giving kids a chance to ride in one of their service vehicles.
Dianne Tierney, Sandra Hansen, Julia Howe and Mara Koplin from the Country Women's Association displayed
their fundraising activities supporting students at Kiama High School. Alison McCaig and Lisa Beckett were there
to promote the work of Hammond Care, working to improve the quality of life of people with complex healthcare
needs. Colin Hollis and Jill Millbourn represented Friends of Peace Park, which maintains Peace Park in Kiama.
Karen Fowler and Glenys Watson have formed Kiama Boomerang Bags, recycling donating fabrics into stylish
bags to rid our community of plastic shopping bags. I am deeply proud of the spirit of community and service that
was on display at the expo.
KIAMA HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS
Mr GARETH WARD (Kiama)—Today the Parliament of New South Wales acknowledges two
outstanding students from Kiama High School, Koffi Brookfield and Jannali Morgan of Year 10 who have recently
been selected to represent the Dharawal Nation 16s Nations of Origin tournament in July 2023. Congratulations
to these two legends Koffi Brookfield and Jannali Morgan from Kiama High School for this super effort. Nations
of Origin is a multifaceted sport, cultural, education and leadership program that culminates around NAIDOC
week annually. Each year around 1,400 Indigenous and non-Indigenous young people represent their Aboriginal
Nation in Rugby League, Football fives, Basketball, Netball and Gymnastics to promote reconciliations within
communities and celebrate Australia diverse Indigenous culture. In July 2023, the Nations of Origin tournament
will be held in Western Sydney. A huge congratulations and well done to both Koffi Brookfield and Jannali
Morgan both in Year 10 from Kiama High School on your selections to participate in this tournament next month.
I have no doubt you will both be outstanding representatives for our Illawarra, Kiama and South Coast region.
BOB AND DIANNE SMITH
Dr JOE McGIRR (Wagga Wagga)—Wagga Wagga South Lions Club describe themselves as 'Ordinary
people doing extraordinary things', and they are well known for making extraordinary contributions. For more
than 20 years, Bob and Dianne Smith have been active members of Wagga Wagga South Lions Club. Both have
held leadership roles in the local club and in the broader District. Currently, Bob is President of the club and
Director for the Save Sight Foundation for the District, while Dianne is Cabinet Secretary for the District. Bob
and Dianne's ongoing commitment to helping where needed has led to them developing an admirable legacy
within the club. The ongoing success of clubs like Wagga Wagga South Lions is thanks to the work of humble,
generous individuals such as Bob and Dianne. Bob and Dianne also serve in other role. Beyond Lions, they both
volunteer weekly with Meals on Wheels, volunteer with Mainly Music working with local children, are active
members of Wagga Wagga Veteran and Vintage Motor Club, while Bob also volunteers at the RAAF Base Wagga
Heritage Centre and Dianne's a member of Wagga's Day VIEW Club. Thank you, Bob and Dianne, for your
exceptional contributions to our community.
JULIE SMITH, EVOLUTION MINING
Ms STEPH COOKE (Cootamundra)—A huge congratulations are extended to Julie Smith from
Evolution Mining in the Bland Shire as recipient of the 2023 Outstanding Tradeswomen, Operator or Technician
Award. Julie was presented this award at The NSW Women in Mining awards night on 30 March. Julie has been
described as a pioneer and role model for women seeking a career in mining. Starting her career in Mining in 2008
with Northparkes Mining as a truck driver, Julie then operated trucks, rollers, water carts and dispatch for a further
nine years. During 2010 Julie also became a member of the Cowal Gold Operations Emergency Response Team
[ERT]. Julie's career advanced in 2018 where she was able to get back into a grader whilst also getting promoted
to crew trainer. Julie has also completed a trainer assessor qualification through the State Emergency Service
[SES]. Additionally, Julie is a First Aid Trainer and can operate three different sized loaders. In 2022, Julie was
selected as a Health Safety Representative through the SES. Julie will now represent NSW at the Women in
Resources National Awards, hosted by the Minerals Council of Australia. Congratulations Julie.
AMY MANWARING – ANZAC DAY COMMEMORATIVE BOOKLET
Ms STEPH COOKE (Cootamundra)—I would like to congratulate Jugiong Public School's Amy
Manwaring for her ANZAC day story, winning her publication a spot in the annual ANZAC Day commemorative
booklet. The Riverina competition saw more than six-hundred and fifty entrants from across roughly thirty
primary and secondary schools. At just eleven years old, Amy managed to win one of the four sections available
for Primary School students. For her efforts Amy will also receive a book prize from the Australian War Memorial,
her story was written about a young man called upon to serve in World War I. Watching the creative minds of our
youth at work is fantastic. It is great to see our smaller schools being afforded the opportunity to enter competitions
such as this one, made available through the Jugiong Public Schools writing program. Amy is one of just twenty-
two students at Jugiong Public School and is also a year 6 leader. Amy, I am sure you have made your teachers,
peers, and family very proud with your story, well done.
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RECOGNISING FRAN STEAD
Ms STEPH COOKE (Cootamundra)—I wish to celebrate constituent Fran Stead who is our Local
Woman of the Year for the Cootamundra electorate. Fran has been recognised for the amazing support she has
provided to the community of Cowra and beyond, as CEO of the Cowra Information and Neighbourhood Centre.
In this role, Fran has shown tireless dedication and advocacy in the support of local people who may be
experiencing socio-economic disadvantage and other challenges. The community of Cowra is so fortunate, and
all the richer, to have Fran in their corner. Supported by a fantastic team, Fran has led a suite of programs to
engage with locals, and in doing so, she has shown a commitment to inclusivity, and new ideas, designed to break
down barriers. Last year, Fran was the driving force behind the Barefooting Lachlan Women project which gave
local women the opportunity to develop skills in financial management. I am so proud to have nominated Fran as
part of this annual program which recognises and celebrates the support women give to their local communities
throughout NSW.
HANIYA SYED
Mrs TANYA DAVIES (Badgerys Creek)—It is with great pleasure that I extend my congratulations to
Haniya Syed, an exceptional student at Oran Park High School on her recent award at the 2023 NSW Women of
the Year Awards. Haniya was awarded the NSW Advocate for Children the One to Watch award for her
extraordinary achievements in robotics and art. Haniya has excelled in multiple national and international robotics
championships, most notably earning a silver medal with Team Australia at the first Global Robotics Challenge
in Switzerland last year. Her talent, courage and hard work were recognised by then Minister for Women Bronnie
Taylor, who described Haniya as a shining example of the bright future for young women throughout NSW.
Haniya's achievement is not only a testament to her remarkable skills, but also an inspiration to all young women
in our community. I extend my warmest congratulations to Haniya and wish her all the best for her future
endeavours.
GLENMORE PARK FOOTBALL CLUB
Mrs TANYA DAVIES (Badgerys Creek)—I rise today to congratulate the Glenmore Park Football Club
on their 30th anniversary in 2023. For three decades, the club has been providing a safe and inclusive environment
for kids and families to enjoy football. In 2022, the club had a successful season with eight teams making it to the
Grand Final weekend, including the ladies' Premier team and the boys Under 13's team, both of which won their
Grand Finals. These achievements are a testament to the skill, talent, sportsmanship of the club's players and to
the tireless efforts of their coaches and volunteers. As we celebrate this milestone, I look forward to the jubilant
celebrations that will acknowledge their 30 years of keeping kids active, creating healthy competition and bringing
families together. The Glenmore Park Football Club's commitment to promoting the benefits of sports and
physical activity in our community is truly invaluable and we are proud to have them as a vital part of our
community. On behalf of the community, I would like to congratulate the Glenmore Park Football Club and wish
them continued success in the years to come.
WALLY AND MARGARET COX
Mrs TANYA DAVIES (Badgerys Creek)—I rise today to extend my warmest congratulations to Wally
and Margaret Cox who celebrated their 51st wedding anniversary last year. Wally and Margaret, both proud locals
of Mulgoa, first met in 1968 at the Luddenham Progress Hall. They first met while dancing together and their
lives were forever changed for the better. Over the years, they have built a beautiful life together raising two
children and eight grandchildren. Family means everything to Wally and Margaret, their commitment to each
other and their loved ones is truly inspiring. Their enduring love and dedication to one another is a testament to
the power of love and the strength of our community. I would like to congratulate Wally and Margaret Cox on
their 51st wedding anniversary. Their love and devotion to each other serve as an inspiration to us all and we are
grateful for their contributions to our community. We wish them both continued health, happiness, companionship
and many more years of love. Thank you Wally and Margaret for being shining examples of what it means to be
devoted partners and valued members of our community.
BINGARA CENTRAL SCHOOL TEACHERS' SERVICE AWARDS
Mr ADAM MARSHALL (Northern Tablelands)—I recognise Mrs Fiona Craddock and Ms Lisa Moore
of Bingara Central School for their combined 50 years of dedicated service to the education of primary and
secondary school children in our region. Over this time, they have continuously encouraged their pupils to develop
a love of learning and a desire to succeed. I congratulate Mrs Craddock on her 20 Years Service Award for
teaching infants in the lower primary school and more recently, transitioning to upper primary classes, this year
teaching a Year 6 class. I congratulate Ms Moore on receiving her 30 Years Service Award. Ms Moore began her
teaching career in the field of Personal Development Health & Physical Education [PDHPE] and later retrained
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in Mathematics. Whilst Ms Moore has worked in many schools in the region, most of her time has been at Bingara
Central School. I commend Mrs Craddock and Ms Moore for their dedication to their students, education and their
schools. They continue to maintain the highest integrity and of behalf of the electorate, I thank them for their
service.
TYLER MURRAY AWARDED TAFE EXCELLENCE AWARD
Mr ADAM MARSHALL (Northern Tablelands)—I recognise the achievements of Tyler Murray, who
has been awarded the TAFE Excellence Award for Trainee of the Year! Tyler started his Traineeship in 2020, is
studying Agriculture and is a role model for his Pathfinder workmates and friends in the Armidale area.
I congratulate Tyler for this award, as well as the other candidates who were celebrated at the recent awards in
Mudgee. Tyler has been recognised for being the most outstanding graduate in terms of academic excellence, as
well as his personal, workplace and community achievements. I commend Tyler for his award and thank his
Pathfinder supporters and mentors, along with TAFE NSW for their recognition of such a worthy participant.
LOCAL FINALISTS IN NSW SHEARING AND WOOL HANDLING
Mr ADAM MARSHALL (Northern Tablelands)—I recognise the achievements of Jack Lockyer and
Brooke Newberry of Guyra, who were finalists in the NSW Shearing and Wool Handling Competition. Jack
gained 1st place in the Intermediate Shearing and Brooke gained 2nd place in the Novice Wool Handling finals.
I congratulate Jack and Brooke for these accolades, as well as the other competitors celebrating the awards in
Dubbo recently. These awards are a culmination of 12 months of competition across the Rural Show network,
with there being an outstanding commitment shown by competitors to the Wool Industry. I commend both Jack
and Brooke for their awards in their individual pursuits and for making the NSW Development Team. We wish
them every success when they compete at the National Titles at Jamestown, South Australia later in the year.
FIRE & RESCUE NSW – OPEN DAY
Ms SONIA HORNERY (Wallsend)—On 13 May, Fire and Rescue NSW held their annual Open Day,
an opportunity for members of the public to attend their local fire station, meet the crews who protect our
community and see firsthand the equipment and processes these amazing people do every day. In the electorate
of Wallsend, I have four stations: Minmi, Wallsend, Lambton and Tarro. I was able to visit Tarro station on the
Open Day. The crew at Tarro are always welcoming and very community minded, it was my great pleasure to be
able to see their brand-new truck, replacing a much older model and allowing the Tarro team to have updated
technologies and capabilities to better protect the Beresfield, Tarro and surrounds from any fire dangers that may
present. It was great to see so many of our community come to the station and support our amazing Tarro crew.
The other stations in the Wallsend electorate were equally well attended and I look forward to catching up with
them all soon.
WEAR ORANGE WEDNESDAY – THANKYOU SES
Ms SONIA HORNERY (Wallsend)—Wednesday 17 May was Wear Orange Wednesday, a day to thank
our amazing State Emergency Services [SES] volunteers. Whenever we have severe weather, our SES are on call
to attend fallen trees, downed power lines, accidents of a variety of natures, and the SES volunteers attend bravely
and do their bit. SES volunteers come from all walks of life, some are ex-emergency services while others are
people of all ages without any prior experience in emergency rescue but simply want to contribute to their
communities and assist. Whenever a severe weather warning is released, I post about it on my Facebook. On each
post is the same line "If you require emergency assistance for storm damage, call NSW SES on 132 500." These
heroes of our community are there for us, we need to always be grateful for their dedication to their community
and their immense bravery. Thank you to NSW SES and NSW SES – City of Newcastle!!
SURVIVORS ARE US
Ms SONIA HORNERY (Wallsend)—Survivors are Us are a charity based in Cardiff who provide food
relief, friendship and support to victims of domestic and family violence, those going through hardship and
poverty, people experiencing homelessness and unemployment. Survivors R Us offer daily breakfasts, a discount
food warehouse called "the Pantry" and have an onsite op shop. They also supply dignity bags, children's toys and
occasionally household furniture to those doing it tough. Founded by local legend, Ann-Maria Martin, herself a
survivor of domestic violence, and run entirely by the hard work and good will of volunteers, Survivors R Us are
a staple organisation in our region for support to those doing it hard and most at risk. I have been thrilled to visit
Ann-Maria and Survivors R Us on multiple occasions, most recently to a fashion show fundraiser which was an
absolute blast and a really good time. Thankyou Ann-Maria and your crew of exceptional volunteers, you all do
amazing work for the community.
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KATHLEEN YORK HOUSE
Ms KOBI SHETTY (Balmain)—Today I bring to the attention of the House the work of Kathleen York
House, a residential drug and alcohol rehabilitation service for women in our community. Kathleen York House
does crucial work supporting women to overcome substance dependence and reduce its negative impacts on their
lives, families and communities. It is one of the few services where women can live with their children in a
welcoming, safe and home-like environment. Operating since 1991 under the governance of the Alcohol and Drug
Foundation of NSW, Kathleen York House has supported scores of women to return to independent living. I want
to acknowledge all the staff, as well as Alcohol and Drug Foundation of NSW CEO Latha Nithyanandam, for
their ongoing contributions to this important work.
BLACKWATTLE BAY SSC LEADERS
Ms KOBI SHETTY (Balmain)—Today I bring to the attention of the House the Year 11 and 12 school
leaders at Sydney Secondary College Blackwattle Bay Campus. Last week I had the pleasure of hosting the Year
11 leaders Avin Dabiri and Bede Warnock at Parliament as part of the Secondary Student Leadership Program
which gives students the opportunity to develop their knowledge of constitutional and parliamentary processes.
I want to acknowledge and recognise Avin and Bede for the important contributions they are making to their
school community – we all benefit when young people get involved in making our schools and communities a
better place.
SORRY DAY CEREMONY – LIVERPOOL REGIONAL MUSEUM
Ms CHARISHMA KALIYANDA (Liverpool)—On Friday the 26th of May, I was invited to
commemorate Sorry Day 2023 at the Liverpool Regional Museum. An important day in our national calendar,
National Sorry day invites us to reflect on the pain and suffering felt by Stolen Generations survivors and recognise
the need for reconciliation, healing and truth-telling in NSW and across Australia. The event featured poignant
remarks from Aunty Pearl Wymmarra and Julie Dannevig, as well a wreath laying ceremony at the Stolen
Generations memorial tree. Accompanied by touching performances from Nulungu Dreaming, the event brought
home the importance of the day. Moreover, I enjoyed speaking with Uncle Darrell of the Gandangara seniors'
group and sharing in his valuable knowledge about the history and customs of the local Darug peoples. I would
like to acknowledge the efforts of the Gandangara Local Aboriginal Land Council and Tharawal Local Aboriginal
Land Council in putting the event together, as well as the Liverpool City Council for helping honour the strength
of Stolen Generations survivors.
TWEED BYRON POLICE AWARDS
Mr GEOFF PROVEST (Tweed)—I had the honour of attending the Tweed Byron Police District Medals
and Awards Ceremony recently held in Tweed Heads, where hard-working officers were recognised for their long
service and dedication to duty in keeping our community safe. I attended alongside NSW Police Commissioner
Karen Webb APM, Commander Northern Region Assistant Commissioner Peter McKenna APM and NSW Police
Minister Yasmin Catley MP and it was a proud morning for many officers, and their families, who in recent years
have faced challenges such as fires, devastating floods and a pandemic that resulted in the closure of the
Queensland border. Hosted by Commander of the Tweed Byron Police District, Superintendent David Roptell
APM, medals and awards presented included the National Police Service Medal, National Medal and Clasps,
NSW Police Medal and Clasp, including a Clasp for 35 years of service, Commissioner's Emergency
Commendation, National Emergency Medal and District Commendation. Two Tweed residents were also
recognised for their bravery in assisting police officers in their duties. Thank you to all those recognised at the
awards ceremony, your service and dedication to the Tweed community is greatly appreciated.
MIRANDA NORTH PUBLIC SCHOOL PARENTS AND CITIZENS ASSOCIATION
Ms ELENI PETINOS (Miranda)—I acknowledge Miranda North Public School's Parents and Citizens
Association who are the successful recipients of $17,902 from the NSW Government's 2022 Community Building
Partnership Program. Miranda North Public School is a welcoming community that provides quality education in
a nurturing and innovative learning environment. The school is at the heart of our community and is part of the
Share Our Space Program which allows young people to access the school's playground during the school
holidays. Through this funding, the school has installed 4 new water drinking stations to give students and
community members access to drinking water when using the school's wonderful facilities. Of course, none of
this is possible without the hard work and dedication of the Parents and Citizens Association. I acknowledge
Executive Committee members Vanessa Gale, Brett Robinson, Sharon King, Martyn Stephens, Rebecca Abrook
and Megan Chimiak for their efforts, as well as school Principal Ross Angus for his leadership. I thank the
members of Miranda North's Parents and Citizens Association for bringing the importance of this project to my
attention and look forward to seeing the positive impact it delivers to our community.
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M.J. BALE BIRKENHEAD POINT OUTLET CENTRE
Ms STEPHANIE DI PASQUA (Drummoyne)—I wish to congratulate a business in my electorate,
M.J. Bale Birkenhead Point Outlet Centre. Last month, M.J. Bale won the 2023 Inner West Local Business Award
for the Fashion category. Birkenhead Point Outlet Centre is a destination for not only locals, but those all over
Sydney. The Local Business Award winners are chosen based on votes placed by customers and visitors. This is
evidence of the outstanding customer service provided by the staff at M.J. Bale Birkenhead Point Outlet Centre.
I congratulate the managers and staff for their hard work, especially during busy sale periods, and for their positive
attitude when helping those visiting. A well-deserved win in the 2023 Inner West Local Business Awards! Well
done!
CITIZENSHIP CEREMONY - 19 APRIL 2023
Ms STEPHANIE DI PASQUA (Drummoyne)—On 19 April, I attended the City of Canada Bay
Council's Citizenship ceremony. Congratulations to Salona Allimia, Waseem Allimia, Froz Abdul Wahab Ameer
Ahamed, Mosab Amin, Androulla Angelides, Jennifer Arens, Marco Aria, Aditya Bajaj, Aaron Bartram, David
Battistin, Chrizza Bonifacio, Duy Khoa Cao, Xuelan Chen, Xunchi Chen, Sanjeeb and Purba Choudhury and
family, Mikhali Churbanov, Iuliia Baiandina, Dario Cutrono, Kunal Dasgupta, Deepa Intwala, Edel Bridget
Doolan, David Mikhael, Marian Escander, Percy Kevin Fernandes, Fabio Ghiani, Irem Gul, Dong Han, Shazhou
Huang, Dushan Sachindra Indrakimar, Karishma Jamwal, Karana Nendan, Jennifer Sandra Jeczmyk, David
Phillip Joyce, Alan Kelly and Xi Lan, Siu Lin Lau, Yiu Keung Lui, Samuel Lewis, Heloisa Calegari Santos, Yan
Lin, Maria Annabelle Teano Macayana, Giovanni Magnone, Siwei Mu, Baoqing Qin, Ranjeeta, Parastoo
Samadiamin, Amir Shakiba, Kimya Sokhansanj, Si Shi, Claire Steedman, Darren Steedman, Anita Tashevska,
Fabio Trifone Tortelli and Michael Young. I sincerely wish our newest Australian citizens all the very best and
extend my deepest congratulations.
CITIZENSHIP CEREMONY - 6 APRIL 2023
Ms STEPHANIE DI PASQUA (Drummoyne)—On 6 April, I attended the City of Canada Bay Council's
Citizenship ceremony. Congratulations to Katrina Avery, Joseph Azar & Elizabeth Seissian, Tohid Azimi,
Maurizio Bruno, Srimanteja Burra, Gokhan Buyukyilmaz, Diego Delgado Lages & Claudia Gomes Pereira Lages,
Zhenyu Dong, Behnam Ebrahimi & Nastaran Tavakoli, Camilo Gamboa Aguilera & Mayra Malavera Angarita,
Aleksandar Georgiev & Tsvetina Simeonova, Liam Hanrahan & Eloise McKenzie, Artem Kamnev & Daria
Podrezova, Xiaoli Li, Ruilin Liu, Diego Lopez Garavito & Laura Zapata Ruiz, Mapahamillage Mapa, Talita Meira
Silva Guimaraes, Flavio Oliveira, Jessica Patane, Richard Poole, Zheng Qu, Guillermo Quevedo Heredia &
Juliana Thomaz Olivieri, Islam Sabbar & Hiba Alrawashdeh, Grainne Scarry, Tatiana Schonhobel Sanchez,
Dinara & Sabina Shakirova, Varsha & Nikunj Shrivastava, Vikas Soni, Sherwin & Aiza Soriano, Grazia
Sunderland, Linda Urlich, Ana Vitorino Murakawa, Meltem Yasaroglu, Nazia Zabin, Parsa Zahe & Farahnaz
Vahdati, Hanfeng Zhang, Yexuan Zhou, Liesl & Shaun Zuccolotto. I sincerely wish our newest Australian citizens
all the very best and extend my deepest congratulations.
IRENE OMEROS
Mr CHRIS MINNS (Kogarah—Premier)—As part of National Volunteer Week, I wish to acknowledge
and celebrate the work of Kogarah resident, Ms Irene Omeros. As President of the P&C committee at James Cook
Boys Technology High School, Ms Omeros has successfully increased parent and community engagement over
the past 3 years. Ms Omeros led the Return and Earn program that has not only raised much needed funds for the
school but has also educated students on their responsibilities to recycle and reduce their environmental footprint.
Irene and the P&C have also organised and led numerous fundraising events with the aim of promoting the school
to the broader community and raising money to improve the school's facilities. The money that has been raised
went towards school improvement initiatives such as building new bike racks, developing an agricultural STEM
garden that supports student learning and the beautification of the school's quadrangle area. Ms Omeros passion,
enthusiasm and dedication towards the school community is an inspiration to us all.
GORAN MARJANOVIC
Mr CHRIS MINNS (Kogarah—Premier)—I wish to acknowledge and celebrate, Mr Goran Marjanovic
for his outstanding and continuous volunteer service to the Sydney Futsal Club. Mr Marjanovic has been with the
club for almost 10 years and has been serving as a committee member for the past 7 years. As a Futsal Club with
little over 200 registered players and officials, it's all about multi-tasking and Goran does it all! From facilitating
in getting the players and officials registered, to ordering and handing out the Clubs gear for players, coaches and
managers, running home match days from 8am to 7pm. On our home match day, Gordan is even the facilities DJ
which helps keep the parents relaxed and entertained between games. Being the Club's registrar and treasurer is
almost a full-time job and Gordan takes it on with a smile. I wish to express my deepest appreciation to
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Mr Marjanovic for his dedication and commitment to helping the Sydney Futsal Club and ensuring the local
community enjoys the experience of playing Futsal.
LILY KURUVITA
Mr CHRIS MINNS (Kogarah—Premier)—I would like to acknowledge and celebrate the work of
life-long volunteer, Ms Lily Kuruvita. Lily has been volunteering with the 3Bridges Early Years Support service
since 2017. The Early Years Support Service provides home visits for new mothers to improve their health and
wellbeing, offering practical support and critical connections during pregnancy and into motherhood. In particular,
3Bridges supports women with depression & anxiety, adjusting to motherhood and women who are socially
isolated due to being from a non-English speaking background. At the age of 83, Lilly supports not one, but two
families every week, dedicating 4 hours of her precious time to each family. She offers wonderful practical support
for the mothers, sharing recipe ideas and demonstrating how to cook quick simple meals. Lily is kind & patient,
offering mothers a great deal of comfort during the exciting yet challenging time of bringing home a newborn
baby. I would like to thank Lily and express my deepest appreciation for the wonderful work she does for 3Bridges
and most importantly for our local community of mothers and families.
FIRE AND RESCUE NSW OPEN DAY
Mr JIHAD DIB (Bankstown—Minister for Customer Service and Digital Government, Minister for
Emergency Services, and Minister for Youth Justice)—On Saturday 12 May 2023, Fire and Rescue NSW held
their annual open day to welcome communities across NSW to see the important work they do. The Fire and
Rescue NSW open day is an outstanding way for communities to come together to learn more about how to stay
safe and save lives. It was an honour to spend time among thousands of locals at the Fire and Rescue NSW
Academy in Orchard Hills. I was joined by my colleague, the Member for East Hills, Kylie Wilkinson MP at the
combined Bankstown and Revesby Fire Station Open Day. Children had fun seeing fire trucks, learning new skills
from firefighters, and learning about rescue missions, all whilst wearing firefighting equipment. Unfortunately,
the older kids weren't allowed to jump into the fire trucks or test the fire hoses, but I did get to meet Chase from
PAW Patrol. Firefighters do a great deal more than just fight fires. Their skills in rescue and disaster response are
second to none. When we run away from danger, they are the ones holding the line. Thank you to all firefighters
for all you do.
JIEH HSC ACHIEVERS AWARDS CEREMONY 2023
Mr JIHAD DIB (Bankstown—Minister for Customer Service and Digital Government, Minister for
Emergency Services, and Minister for Youth Justice)—On Wednesday 15 February, I had the pleasure of
attending the Jieh HSC Achievers Awards Ceremony 2023 at the Jieh Clubhouse in Belfield along with my
colleagues the Hon. Sophie Cotsis MP, Jason Yat-Sen Li MP, and Canterbury-Bankstown Councillors. This is an
annual event to acknowledge the students who have achieved outstanding results in their HSC. All students were
recipients of awards which recognises their dedication to education and the importance it has in our community's
future. I look forward to seeing all the students succeed in life and contribute to a better society for all. This
recognition shows that no matter where you come from and what your family history is you can achieve greatness
in Australia if you put your mind to it. In a community as diverse as ours, organisations like the Australian Jieh
Community Club give a voice to and structure a cohesive Christian Maronite community in Australia and provide
outreach to the wider community. I greatly value my relationship with the Australian Jieh Community Club and
its leadership and thank them for extending this invitation to me. I wish them well in all their future endeavours.
NATIONAL ELECTRICAL AND COMMUNICATIONS ASSOCIATION ELECTRICAL
APPRENTICES GRADUATION 2023 AT THE CHULLORA CENTRE OF EXCELLENCE
Mr JIHAD DIB (Bankstown—Minister for Customer Service and Digital Government, Minister for
Emergency Services, and Minister for Youth Justice)—On Friday 3 March, I had the pleasure of attending the
National Electrical and Communications Association's (NECA) Electrical Apprentices Graduation 2023 at the
Chullora Centre of Excellence. It was the first annual event to acknowledge the work of the 66 hardworking
students who completed Certificate III in Electrotechnology. Through the efficiency of NECA, the class of
2022/23, who had their studies disrupted by COVID, was able to switch to an online delivery model within three
days of the lockdown occurring. Apprentices studying at some other facilities endured delays of up to six months
in their course delivery. 15 per cent of apprentices at NECA's Chullora Centre of Excellence are women, compared
to a national average of just 2 per cent. This can only happen because of NECA's mentoring and support programs,
offering a range of services to ensure that apprentices are well-supported throughout their studies. I greatly value
my ongoing relationship with NECA and its leadership and thank them for extending this invitation to me. I look
forward to seeing all the students succeed and go on to fulfilling and successful careers.
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NATIONAL WALK SAFELY TO SCHOOL DAY
Mr DAVID HARRIS (Wyong—Minister for Aboriginal Affairs and Treaty, Minister for Gaming
and Racing, Minister for Veterans, Minister for Medical Research, and Minister for the Central Coast)—
Warnervale Public School students and teachers participated in the annual event National Walk Safely to School
Day on 19th May. I joined the students and teachers at this community initiative event that aims to raise awareness
of the health, road safety, transport, and environmental benefits that regular walking especially to and from school,
can provide for the long-term well-being of our children. Regular exercise, like walking to and from school, has
a positive impact on anxiety and depression which is why we encourage primary school aged children to walk for
National Walk Safely to School Day. There has never been a better time to build walking into our kid's daily
routine, by walking to and from, school, not just today but every day.
WYONG CREEK PUBLIC SCHOOL
Mr DAVID HARRIS (Wyong—Minister for Aboriginal Affairs and Treaty, Minister for Gaming
and Racing, Minister for Veterans, Minister for Medical Research, and Minister for the Central Coast)—
Wyong Creek Public School will be taking part for the first time in the popular Harvest Festival, held in my
electorate across the hinterland over the June long weekend. On Saturday, June 10 the school ground will come
alive between 10am and 3pm, with a fun-filled entertainment program to suit all ages, a display of local artists,
live music including Lucy Beveridge and a program to inspire gardeners. There will be good old country-style
competition, entertainment in the cow pat guessing and a raffle to win a grand finalist signed 2023 Central Coast
Mariners jersey with the winner being drawn at 2.30pm on the day. For gardening enthusiasts, the propagation
station will offer valuable tips and tricks from gardening experts and there will be a plant sale. This school festival
promises to be a fantastic opportunity for the local community to come together, have fun and support the school.
It's also a great opportunity to take in the beautiful scenic hinterland along Yarramalong Road on the way out to
the school.
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